Ryanair to Fly Russia, Turkey, Lebanon, Israel, the Gulf states and Egypt.

mayotom

New Boeing planes will offer Ryanair new route choices - O'Leary :- RTE News

Speaking at a press conference updating the media on its fleet, the Ryanair boss said new destinations could be added in Russia, Turkey, Lebanon, Israel, the Gulf states and Egypt.

Mr O'Leary said the new aircraft will be able to fly for up to five and a half hours.

Anybody got the inside track on a time scale for Ryanair expansion eastwards, would this tie in with the 737-MAX deliveries

Preset No.3

Another Ryanair non story. Are the media that stuck for a story that they turn up fit something that 'could' happen?? I could fly to the moon in a cardboard box!!!

martinsvi

easyjet is reducing Moscow service from March, didn't go as planned and EU sanctions didn't help either, FR would be crazy to start a service in that market, so yeah, +1 to what Preset No 3 said..

Tenger

From the article: (my emphasis in bold)
Speaking at a press conference updating the media on its fleet, the Ryanair boss said new destinations could be added in Russia, Turkey, Lebanon, Israel, the Gulf states and Egypt.......
......The airline will have a fleet of 308 aircraft this year. Its fleet will grow to 420 by 2019 and as many as 520 by the year 2024.

So approx 150 B737-800 aircraft to be delivered in the next 4-5 years (assuming a few disposals too)
The B737-9MAX-200 deliveries are due to start in 2019. (I think they have 200 in total on order?)

Jamie2k9

FR want marketing support to operate Ireland-Russia something they are not being given. Nothing stopping them flying to Russia now.

martinsvi

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

FR want marketing support to operate Ireland-Russia something they are not being given. Nothing stopping them flying to Russia now.

how about lack of pax? There's practically no Russian diaspora in Ireland, Russia is not on the top of the holiday destination list, business ties are practically non-existing, and as I hear, the middle-class in Russia is pretty badly hit so they're not going anywhere themselves anytime soon

Jamie2k9

martinsvi wrote: »

how about lack of pax? There's practically no Russian diaspora in Ireland, Russia is not on the top of the holiday destination list, business ties are practically non-existing, and as I hear, the middle-class in Russia is pretty badly hit so they're not going anywhere themselves anytime soon

Of course it's part of the problem but they want to be paid to fly the route. It works across Europe from them but not here. S7 don't receive funding for a route while only once weekly peak season they can make money on it.

Demand will never be high even in a few years and FR will unlikely every fly it from Dublin commercially. As already said FR have nothing new to announce so they turnout old news stories every couple of months.

martinsvi

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

As already said FR have nothing new to announce so they turnout old news stories every couple of months.

that reminds me... isn't it time for the bi-annual Ryanair Atlantic "news" story?

Noxegon

I've been to Russia and I would like to go again.

However, the incredible bureaucracy required to get a visa makes it unlikely that I'll be heading back there in the near future.

The only way a Dublin/St Petersburg route would succeed IMHO would be with a liberalisation of visa restrictions.

fits

Ryanair already have a Russian airport... its called Lappeenranta. (passengers using it are majority Russian). Must be badly hit with the ruble though.

fr336

Why Ireland-Russia and not Stansted-Russia? Would they have to jump through hoops considering EZY have a license for it already?

Zonda999

I also think we're someway off a FR route to Russia. There would need to be a total normalisation of relations between Europe and Russia and of course a relaxing of the archaic visa restrictions. In this scenario, I think there would be a far greater appetite to business and tourism ties to develop between Europe and Russia.

keith16

Zonda999 wrote: »

I also think we're someway off a FR route to Russia. There would need to be a total normalisation of relations between Europe and Russia and of course a relaxing of the archaic visa restrictions. In this scenario, I think there would be a far greater appetite to business and tourism ties to develop between Europe and Russia.

You're probably right in fairness. It's a shame in one way because Moscow and St. Petersburg are incredible cities that never seem to enter the consciousness of the Irish.

The funny thing is, I don't think it would take much to develop the market. Even with the ongoing conflict.

Tenger

fr336 wrote: »

Why Ireland-Russia and not Stansted-Russia? Would they have to jump through hoops considering EZY have a license for it already?

UK-Russia bi-lateral only allows 2 airlines....used to be BA/bmi.....now it is BA/Easyjet.

Noxegon wrote: »

I've been to Russia and I would like to go again.

However, the incredible bureaucracy required to get a visa makes it unlikely that I'll be heading back there in the near future.

The only way a Dublin/St Petersburg route would succeed IMHO would be with a liberalisation of visa restrictions.

I remember a few years back there was an Ireland-Russia football match. Mates of mine were operating the EI flight to Moscow (can't remember which airport) They weren't allowed to nightstop, had to drop off pax then positon to Vilinius (I believe) for their nightstop. Next day, Vilnius-Moscow-Dublin.

To me this is indicative of the bureaucracy surrounding Russian visa's, considering that in most countries aircrew are a lot easier to get visa's for

martinsvi

<offtopic> word on the street- Ryanair just had a massive fuel leak in Manchester airport, don't have the details but appron covered in sand, people report huge mess, appearantly that was a flight sheduled to Riga </offtopic>

Zonda999

Tenger wrote: »

I remember a few years back there was an Ireland-Russia football match. Mates of mine were operating the EI flight to Moscow (can't remember which airport) They weren't allowed to nightstop, had to drop off pax then positon to Vilinius (I believe) for their nightstop. Next day, Vilnius-Moscow-Dublin.

To me this is indicative of the bureaucracy surrounding Russian visa's, considering that in most countries aircrew are a lot easier to get visa's for

The mind boggles when you hear of stuff like this. I was listening to something about Russia there last week, something about their(I guess "their" was referring to their government) attitude toward co-operation between nations. Whereas most western countries see co-operation between countries as a good thing in terms of economic development, Russia never see's it like this. Explains their relative isolation from a huge market of nearly 500 million right next to them in Europe.

*This would have been September 2011 by the way, a heroic performance from Richard Dunne!

billie1b

martinsvi wrote: »

<offtopic> word on the street- Ryanair just had a massive fuel leak in Manchester airport, don't have the details but appron covered in sand, people report huge mess, appearantly that was a flight sheduled to Riga </offtopic>

It left MAN 1hr 45mins late, could be for any reason though

Tenger

martinsvi wrote: »

<offtopic> word on the street- Ryanair just had a massive fuel leak in Manchester airport, don't have the details but apron covered in sand, people report huge mess, apparently that was a flight scheduled to Riga </offtopic>

As always, beware of Twitter and the drama driven 24 hr news culture*

And a "massive fuel leak with the ramp covered in sand" could be viewed as a "within limits fuel leak, treated as per SOPs" by an aviation insider.


*Where you affected by this fuel leak? Did you know anyone on this plane? Do you know anyone in Manchester airport? Have you ever flown with RyanAir? Do you know anyone with an opinion on this story? Then text or call to give us your story!

fr336

Tenger wrote: »

As always, beware of Twitter and the drama driven 24 hr news culture*

And a "massive fuel leak with the ramp covered in sand" could be viewed as a "within limits fuel leak, treated as per SOPs" by an aviation insider.


*Where you affected by this fuel leak? Did you know anyone on this plane? Do you know anyone in Manchester airport? Have you ever flown with RyanAir? Do you know anyone with an opinion on this story? Then text or call to give us your story!

Now now Tenger, I come to Boards to avoid this sort of Daily Mail journalism, I don't expect it from one of our finest mods

martinsvi

Tenger wrote: »

As always, beware of Twitter and the drama driven 24 hr news culture*

*gasp*, well I never!

see attached, not quite standard I'm afraid

Cessna_Pilot

martinsvi wrote: »

*gasp*, well I never!

see attached, not quite standard I'm afraid

Looks to be a standard response to a fuel leak to me.

martinsvi

Cessna_Pilot wrote: »

Looks to be a standard response to a fuel leak to me.

it is. The leak it self is not, you don't see that every day

Tenger

martinsvi wrote: »

it is. The leak it self is not, you don't see that every day

True enough, an uncommon occurrence.

Didn't mean to cast aspersions on your info earlier....thought you had read it online rather than seeing it yourself.

martinsvi

Tenger wrote: »

True enough, an uncommon occurrence.

Didn't mean to cast aspersions on your info earlier....thought you had read it online rather than seeing it yourself.

I didn't see it myself, but I have eyes and ears everywhere, lol... like one of those Thai gods .. seriously thou heard it from a witness, I don't think it's been on media or even twitter

sjb25

martinsvi wrote: »

that reminds me... isn't it time for the bi-annual Ryanair Atlantic "news" story?

Here you go http://m.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/ryanair-fares-to-the-us-for-under-100-oleary-30933401.html

Graham

I think this whole story is another very thinly veiled 'Aer Lingus better join another airline with a strong long-haul presence'.

You can almost hear MOL in the background going 'cough BA cough'.

Comhrá

Ryanair Atlantic "news" story

Update 30.2.01 ready for download.......

http://www.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/ryanair-fares-to-the-us-for-under-100-oleary-30933401.html

martinsvi

martinsvi wrote: »

that reminds me... isn't it time for the bi-annual Ryanair Atlantic "news" story?

sjb25 wrote: »

Here you go http://m.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/ryanair-fares-to-the-us-for-under-100-oleary-30933401.html

tippman1 wrote: »

Update 30.2.01 ready for download.......

http://www.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/ryanair-fares-to-the-us-for-under-100-oleary-30933401.html

this is just getting too predictable to be funny... I'd say next one's due April

Idbatterim

I came here to mention what the above two posters just have

He said it would aim to fly between 15 major European cities and 15 major US cities.

"If we wanted to get into the pan-European transatlantic market, then starting in Dublin would be the wrong place to start. It's a tiny market," he said. "We'll need something in the order of 30-50 aircraft," said Mr O'Leary, adding that a long-haul service was at least five years away.

Isnt traffic to the US from Dublin to 7th highest in Europe?

Preset No.3

Isn't about time we had the usual wave of non A&A regulars in here to post about how great Ryanair is and say they can't wait to fly to the US for made up magical fares that only gullible people believe?

Cosmo Kramer

Idbatterim wrote: »

I came here to mention what the above two posters just have



Isnt traffic to the US from Dublin to 7th highest in Europe?

Yes but a lot of it is transfer passengers which would be of little use to Ryanair. Not that it will ever happen anyway, MOL seems to have moved away from his standing in planes and removal of toilet yarns but he seems to stick with this one to generate free publicity. Or maybe the gullible Irish media just keep asking him about it.