Parish Priest.

I said it before: All titles are an anachronism and should be abandoned (Mr Mrs Dr Ms etc.)

anncoates

Father, I suppose, out of politeness, unless I knew them well enough to use their name.

It's a a load of bollocks to me but going out of my way to do otherwise would be giving it too much thought.

Valetta

kneemos wrote: »

Thought protestant religions always referred to their clergy by name.

Calling your priest father infers subservience and I thought was out dated at this stage.

I've no idea how you see it as subservient?

What do you call your own father or mother?

kneemos

Valetta wrote: »

I've no idea how you see it as subservient?

What do you call your own father or mother?

Father or mother,but they're not random strangers.

Why do they need a title that sets them apart,nobody else does.
Even priests aren't bothered about it these days.

Valetta

kneemos wrote: »

Father or mother,but they're not random strangers.

Why do they need a title that sets them apart,nobody else does.
Even priests aren't bothered about it these days.

If your parish priest is a random stranger, why would you be addressing him at all?

One eyed Jack

kneemos wrote: »

Father or mother,but they're not random strangers.

Why do they need a title that sets them apart,nobody else does.
Even priests aren't bothered about it these days.

As someone else said kneemos, you're thinking way too much about this whole thing. Most people simply use it maybe once in greeting a priest, it's not like anyone's on their knees slobbering over anyone? I'd greet nuns the same way with "Sister...".

Priests aren't bothered by it because they don't particularly care I imagine, but some people I've met are indeed a bit anal about their titles. We'd a thread on PhD titles a while back, some people use them, some people don't.

Grayson

kneemos wrote: »

Thought protestant religions always referred to their clergy by name.

Calling your priest father infers subservience and I thought was out dated at this stage.

dumb bit of trivia. Protestants etc have Ministers. Catholics have priests. It's because of the Eucharist. Catholics believe that they are making a sacrifice during the Eucharist. That makes the person in charge a priest. Priests are guys who sacrifice animals etc. So the Mayans, Aztecs and Catholics have priests.

Protestants believe the Eucharist is symbolic so it isn't an actual sacrifice. Since they don't sacrifice anything they have ministers.

It's also the reason Catholics refer to the time they spend in church as mass and protestants call it a service.
(Note: some Protestants do actually call it mass but that annoys some very pedantic Catholics)
(Also note: The above is really just the orthodox catholic line. Most people really don't care)

Frigga_92

Brian? wrote: »

If I met one I'd call him "horse", the way I call everyone else horse.

My husband calls everyone Ted so...

DeadHand

Grayson wrote: »

lesson learned here. Going to go back to the bowing and the scraping.

As you well know, I said nothing about bowing and scraping.

I believe any religion should exert no influence over anyone but it's adherents and that religion has no place in the law or governance of a state.

What I do find distasteful are the lazy, unnecessary, unthinking attacks we see here and elsewhere on the Church. Going out of your way to brand all priests pedophiles on a perfectly innocuous thread about how to address a parish priest, for example.

Don't get me wrong, the Church richly deserved most of the flak it's taken in recent years. The castration it's undergone in terms of power and influence in recent decades has been thoroughly just and needed.

Still, I find the unoriginal, puerile and personalised slating of it by keyboard warriors who falsely believe it makes them look brave and progressive to be tiresome. Especially since many of the same gallants are subscribers to the current herd mentality and are now slavish devotees to the modern dogmas of political correctness, equality and anti-religious sentiment (against all religions but Islam, which they defend vigorously and submit to readily. Funny that. The phrase "easy targets" springs to mind).

I theorise the same bovine thinkers would have made for ardent Catholics 30-40 years ago.

A herd mind is a herd mind, all that changes is the herd's direction.

Un Croissant

The only way to address your parents is Mam and Dad (Dad and Dad, Mam and Mam to make sure ive covered all gendered parents ) Anyone who says mummy, mother, father etc creep me right out.

Hello Father, how is Mother?

**** that.

Your Superior

Mam and Mammy just sound vile to me. Nothing creeps me out more than adults who use "Daddy" though...

Grayson

DeadHand wrote: »

As you well know, I said nothing about bowing and scraping.

I believe any religion should exert no influence over anyone but it's adherents and that religion has no place in the law or governance of a state.

What I do find distasteful are the lazy, unnecessary, unthinking attacks we see here and elsewhere on the Church. Going out of your way to brand all priests pedophiles on a perfectly innocuous thread about how to address a parish priest, for example.

Don't get me wrong, the Church richly deserved most of the flak it's taken in recent years. The castration it's undergone in terms of power and influence in recent decades has been thoroughly just and needed.

Still, I find the unoriginal, puerile and personalised slating of it by keyboard warriors who falsely believe it makes them look brave and progressive to be tiresome. Especially since many of the same gallants are subscribers to the current herd mentality and are now slavish devotees to the modern dogmas of political correctness, equality and anti-religious sentiment (against all religions but Islam, which they defend vigorously and submit to readily. Funny that. The phrase "easy targets" springs to mind).

I theorise the same bovine thinkers would have made for ardent Catholics 30-40 years ago.

A herd mind is a herd mind, all that changes is the herd's direction.

there is no-one who's against all religions except Islam (well, except for hard core Muslims of course)
What politically correct people are against is the targeting of Islam. there's loads of Christians who will complain about sharia and islamization and will ignore everything vile in Leviticus. They'll condemn the few Muslim fanatics who kill people but ignore Christians, Buddhists etc who do the same. There's hundreds of thousands of people in far right groups in the US who claim to be representing white Christians (the KKK for example).

I'll condemn islam as much as I'll condemn other religious hate groups.

You are right about the catholic church. I grew up in a very catholic time. I went to a very catholic school where my teachers were priests. I've known many amazing priests who were great people. The catholic church as an organisation though is pretty messed up. The cover up of pedophilia and stuff like the Magdeline laundries was horrific.

Francis seems a bit better though and I don't think he'd stand for that crap. Even though I'm an atheist and disagree with certain stuff like abortion and gay marriage I do think he's the best thing to happen to the church in years.

Mesrine65

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