Pricing my PC

9bred4

Not entirely sure I'm allowed to do this but how much would a pc with these specs be worth?

OS- Windows 8 Pro 64-bit.
CPU- Intel Pentium G860 @ 3.00GHz
Ram- 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz
Mobo- ASRock B75 Pro3-M (CPUSocket)
GPU- 1024MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series
PSU- Corsair 430w

Inside a Bitfenix Prodigy case?

Mods feel free to delete/move/comment if I'm wrong.

Eogclouder

9bred4 wrote: »

Not entirely sure I'm allowed to do this but how much would a pc with these specs be worth?

OS- Windows 8 Pro 64-bit.
CPU- Intel Pentium G860 @ 3.00GHz
Ram- 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz
Mobo- ASRock B75 Pro3-M (CPUSocket)
GPU- 1024MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series
PSU- Corsair 430w

Inside a Bitfenix Prodigy case?

Mods feel free to delete/move/comment if I'm wrong.

Not very much I'm afraid, I wouldn't pay more than 2/300 for that and that'd feel like a lot to me.

9bred4

Eogclouder wrote: »

Not very much I'm afraid, I wouldn't pay more than 2/300 for that and that'd feel like a lot to me.

Doesn't bother me too much. PC was put together on old parts from upgrades!

9bred4

If I put it up for 350 would you think I'd get a biter?

BloodBath

What kind of storage?

I'd put it up at €400 and look at accepting offers over 350.

9bred4

BloodBath wrote: »

What kind of storage?

I'd put it up at €400 and look at accepting offers over 350.

It only has 500gb but I have a second 500gb I'd throw in it too for it. So 1TB essentially. Im just looking at doing a clearout too so I've a spare PSU id nearly throw in too just to get rid.

TerrorFirmer

I would say you would be lucky to get 300 realistically. Very low end CPU with entry level graphics card.

If you're looking to upgrade, a socket 1155 i5 and a gtx750ti would be a huge upgrade for about 220 euro.

9bred4

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I would say you would be lucky to get 300 realistically. Very low end CPU with entry level graphics card.

If you're looking to upgrade, a socket 1155 i5 and a gtx750ti would be a huge upgrade for about 220 euro.

Its just im sick of the constant need for upgrade, so considering selling

TerrorFirmer

Well to be fair if you bought a decent processor you wouldn't need to, the G860 would have been low-end three years ago! If you'd bought an i5 a few years ago it would still be fine today for the latest games.

9bred4

So what GPU and CPU should I be looking at getting? I can upgrade my PSU to 500w as I have a Corsair lying about.

BloodBath

It depends on how much you want to spend.

You could grab a second hand Ivybridge i5 and something like a R9 280 for around €300. Maybe an SSD while your'e at it. The 430w PSU would be fine.

9bred4

BloodBath wrote: »

It depends on how much you want to spend.

You could grab a second hand Ivybridge i5 and something like a R9 280 for around €300. Maybe an SSD while your'e at it. The 430w PSU would be fine.

And what sort of level are they considered?

challengemaster

9bred4 wrote: »

And what sort of level are they considered?

That depends entirely on what you expect to do with it.

What games? What resolution? 1080? 1440? 4k? What settings?

9bred4

challengemaster wrote: »

That depends entirely on what you expect to do with it.

What games? What resolution? 1080? 1440? 4k? What settings?

I'd like to be able to play games as they come out. Now I'm not exactly a stickler for graphics but I like a nice looking game! Only thing is I use my 40'' LED tv so I'm imagining that makes it harder. But yeah, usually FPS or a racer!

BloodBath

9bred4 wrote: »

And what sort of level are they considered?

Ivybridge i5's are still very powerful cpu's. I'm using 1 myself and don't anticipate having to upgrade it for at least another 3 years.

The R9 280 is the best value mid range card that will run most games on high-max settings at 1080p with 60 fps.

9bred4

BloodBath wrote: »

Ivybridge i5's are still very powerful cpu's. I'm using 1 myself and don't anticipate having to upgrade it for at least another 3 years.

The R9 280 is the best value mid range card that will run most games on high-max settings at 1080p with 60 fps.

And finally! Where is the best place to shop? Amazon or elsewhere?

BloodBath

You might have to shop around to look for a second hand ivybridge i5.

Try adverts.ie and maybe ebay.

For the card Amazon is probably your best bet.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/SAPPHIRE-AMD-Graphics-Card-DDR5/dp/B00IRTXPBM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422893810&sr=8-1&keywords=r9+280

9bred4

BloodBath wrote: »

You might have to shop around to look for a second hand ivybridge i5.

Try adverts.ie and maybe ebay.

For the card Amazon is probably your best bet.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/SAPPHIRE-AMD-Graphics-Card-DDR5/dp/B00IRTXPBM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422893810&sr=8-1&keywords=r9+280

Could I get the GPU first then look for a CPU or would it bottleneck my current CPU?

BloodBath

Your CPU would be a bottleneck for some games but no doubt you should see a significant performance improvement with just the card.

9bred4

BloodBath wrote: »

Your CPU would be a bottleneck for some games but no doubt you should see a significant performance improvement with just the card.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00FOR0086/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_3

Is that a solid card? 4GB but price seems too good

Recurve360

4GB isnt really essential for 1080p gaming. Id get the 280 mentioned above over that 4gb 270x.

9bred4

Recurve360 wrote: »

4GB isnt really essential for 1080p gaming. Id get the 280 mentioned above over that 4gb 270x.

But as far as future proofing goes? It's the same price for a gig or two more, otherwise I will get the 280

BloodBath

The 280 is the more powerful card. 3GB is loads for 1080p.

9bred4

BloodBath wrote: »

The 280 is the more powerful card. 3GB is loads for 1080p.

Perfect! Is it a bit big? Or is that just the image

mayordenis

9bred4 wrote: »

But as far as future proofing goes? It's the same price for a gig or two more, otherwise I will get the 280

well it's not as good a card it just has more vram.

I have that r9 280, playing Shadow of Mordor on either very high or ultra on 1080 no problem and that's with an old enough i3. Seems like a beefy card, certainly for the money.

BloodBath

The card is quite big yes but should fit a prodigy case no problem but make sure of it.

You can actually still buy new ivybridge i5's which should be compatable with that board. The price is a bit high for that cpu though.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-i5-3330-Ivybridge-Processor-Socket/dp/B008PDA9LE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422900784&sr=8-1&keywords=ivybridge+i5

Serephucus

I actually have a couple of 1155 CPUs lying around, if they're of any interest to you. An i3 3220, and an i5 3570K, I think.

TerrorFirmer

This is a pretty good price and would serve you well. Postage should be free as well so 150 delivered to your door.

Their prices are all over the shop really, but with a database of 1000's of products I suppose it's hard to keep them all updated. There are some decent prices though to be had.

9bred4

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

This is a pretty good price and would serve you well. Postage should be free as well so 150 delivered to your door.

Their prices are all over the shop really, but with a database of 1000's of products I suppose it's hard to keep them all updated. There are some decent prices though to be had.

So this and the 280?

9bred4

I got the graphics card. Now looking into the CPU and a MOBO. Struggling on how to choose a mobo? Any ideas

Asmooh

OS- Windows 8 Pro 64-bit. <- legal? do you use this serial somewhere else or made a pic?

CPU- Intel Pentium G860 @ 3.00GHz <- 20 euro (outdated, lowest price found was from 08-2012 and was 55 euro)
Ram- 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz <- 20 euro
Mobo- ASRock B75 Pro3-M (CPUSocket) -< 30 euro (current price totally new is: € 54,95)
GPU- 1024MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series <- 25 euro (too old to even find a good price)
PSU- Corsair 430w < 20 euro (worth nothing)

so 115 euro exc windows if you are lucky

9bred4

Asmooh wrote: »

OS- Windows 8 Pro 64-bit. <- legal? do you use this serial somewhere else or made a pic?

CPU- Intel Pentium G860 @ 3.00GHz <- 20 euro (outdated, lowest price found was from 08-2012 and was 55 euro)
Ram- 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz <- 20 euro
Mobo- ASRock B75 Pro3-M (CPUSocket) -< 30 euro (current price totally new is: € 54,95)
GPU- 1024MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series <- 25 euro (too old to even find a good price)
PSU- Corsair 430w < 20 euro (worth nothing)

so 115 euro exc windows if you are lucky

I've decided against the selling part now (title may be misleading sorry)

Lu Tze

9bred4 wrote: »

I got the graphics card. Now looking into the CPU and a MOBO. Struggling on how to choose a mobo? Any ideas

Do you need a new motherboard? If you get a socket 1155 i5 you can just slot it in to your current one.

9bred4

Lu Tze wrote: »

Do you need a new motherboard? If you get a socket 1155 i5 you can just slot it in to your current one.

I'm maybe looking to build a 2nd rig so I would. An i5 and a new mobo will be needed. Any ideas? i5's seem to be hard to get but mobo's are just confusing to me!

Serephucus

I haven't followed this thread (so sorry if this has already been covered), but I have a H61 mATX 1155 board lying around, and a couple of 1155 CPUs as well. 9bred4, feel free to shoot me a PM if they're of any interest.

9bred4

Serephucus wrote: »

I haven't followed this thread (so sorry if this has already been covered), but I have a H61 mATX 1155 board lying around, and a couple of 1155 CPUs as well. 9bred4, feel free to shoot me a PM if they're of any interest.

PM sent there anyway.

BloodBath

Asmooh wrote: »

OS- Windows 8 Pro 64-bit. <- legal? do you use this serial somewhere else or made a pic?

CPU- Intel Pentium G860 @ 3.00GHz <- 20 euro (outdated, lowest price found was from 08-2012 and was 55 euro)
Ram- 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz <- 20 euro
Mobo- ASRock B75 Pro3-M (CPUSocket) -< 30 euro (current price totally new is: € 54,95)
GPU- 1024MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series <- 25 euro (too old to even find a good price)
PSU- Corsair 430w < 20 euro (worth nothing)

so 115 euro exc windows if you are lucky

Please your pricing is ridiculous. Most of those parts are not that old. They don't suddenly lose 75% of their value.

8gb ddr3 is around €70 at the moment, how do you price it at €20?

€25 for a graphics card that's worth €80 new? Please.

Corsair 430w PSu worth nothing? Sorry it's worth €45 new assuming it's the CX. At least €30 second hand.

challengemaster

I'd love to know where I can get 16gb DDR3 for €40.

TerrorFirmer

Bloodbath beat me to it. Nonsense post.

Dard23

Serephucus wrote: »

I actually have a couple of 1155 CPUs lying around, if they're of any interest to you. An i3 3220, and an i5 3570K, I think.

Hey you have an i5 3570k just lying around? What?!!

Asmooh

BloodBath wrote: »

Please your pricing is ridiculous. Most of those parts are not that old. They don't suddenly lose 75% of their value.

8gb ddr3 is around €70 at the moment, how do you price it at €20?

€25 for a graphics card that's worth €80 new? Please.

Corsair 430w PSu worth nothing? Sorry it's worth €45 new assuming it's the CX. At least €30 second hand.

Crucial CT2KIT51264BF160BJ (kit): 62,00
Crucial CT51264BA160BJ (1x4gb): € 32,55
Corsair CX430M: € 49,95


The 7700 is a old video card.. and yes for products that are new you can get a max of 60% but the products above are 2+ years old so its close to 40% max.

Lu Tze

Asmooh wrote: »

Crucial CT2KIT51264BF160BJ (kit): 62,00
Crucial CT51264BA160BJ (1x4gb): € 32,55
Corsair CX430M: € 49,95


The 7700 is a old video card.. and yes for products that are new you can get a max of 60% but the products above are 2+ years old so its close to 40% max.

You should check out adverts to gauge second hand prices, HD7770 still go for 55-60. I was pricing them up a month or two back as was considering selling mine on.

I have a very similar pc for the living room as a media centre, would be very surprised if it sold for less than €200, mainly as there is still a decent upgrade path there for processor etc.

Serephucus

Dard23 wrote: »

Hey you have an i5 3570k just lying around? What?!!

From a couple of builds ago. Keep meaning to put a bunch of stuff on Adverts, haven't got around to it.

And Asmooh, it's not as clear cut as that. You can often get around 70% or more for a product second hand, but you have to look also at the modern alternatives to a given component.

TerrorFirmer

Asmooh wrote: »

Crucial CT2KIT51264BF160BJ (kit): 62,00
Crucial CT51264BA160BJ (1x4gb): € 32,55
Corsair CX430M: € 49,95


The 7700 is a old video card.. and yes for products that are new you can get a max of 60% but the products above are 2+ years old so its close to 40% max.

There is no magic forumula to what something is worth. It's worth what the going rate for the item in question is.

7770's sell for 60-70, 7750s for 50-60.

You would easily get 30 for the cx430.

8GB DDR3 would easily fetch 50.

Those are the prices those items sell for today on Adverts and Ebay - sometimes more.

Asmooh

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

There is no magic forumula to what something is worth. It's worth what the going rate for the item in question is.

7770's sell for 60-70, 7750s for 50-60.

You would easily get 30 for the cx430.

8GB DDR3 would easily fetch 50.

Those are the prices those items sell for today on Adverts and Ebay - sometimes more.

yes... but 50 euro for memory if the new price is 62?

TerrorFirmer

Look for yourself on adverts and Ebay. That is the price they fetch. Besides, 62 is from where, hardwareversand? Postage is very high. If someone just wants a stick of ram that's no good to them. Hardwareversand is only good value if you're buying a few things, not single items.

The price people are willing to pay is what something is worth.

SterlingArcher

You can get some amazing second hand deals amoosh.

http://touch.adverts.ie/graphics-cards/asus-gtx-680-directcu-ii-coolest-and-quietest-28nm-card/7364497

Asmooh

SterlingArcher wrote:

You can get some amazing second hand deals amoosh.

lowest price (new) was 249 euro on 11 nov 2014, it's out of date..

Lu Tze

Asmooh wrote: »

lowest price (new) was 249 euro on 11 nov 2014, it's out of date..

indeed, just travel back in time and purchase it!

Asmooh

Lu Tze wrote: »

indeed, just travel back in time and purchase it!

just because it gets more expensive doesnt mean its worth it.. because that means that my super old pentium 1 is worth few 1000 because it was the latest known highest price at the time..

challengemaster

Asmooh wrote: »

yes... but 50 euro for memory if the new price is 62?

I'm going to assume you've never actually bought something second hand - because the way you're going on is nothing short of deluded. No seller would even entertain you. The second hand price of something is what the market is willing to pay for it.

I think you're the closest manifestation of the adverts.ie troll who offers a half-eaten snickers for €100 items.