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Why no Venus missions since Verena in the 70's ?

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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Venus is almost certainly still active geologically - there is some (admittedly shaky) evidence for a major volcanic eruption on the planet in the early 1980s. That alone would be a good reason to explore Venus in more depth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    I remember, as an annoying 10 year old, having an argument with my teacher. He was insisting that life could only exist on an earth like planet while I was trying to get a point across that only earth like life would need an earth like planet.

    There is nothing to say that life "but not as we know it" can not evolve in other environments (but Venus would be a radical shift from anything that we could imagine, unless they are Horta)

    Water is a wonderful compound though, its chemistry allows for a lot of interactions that other "similar" molecules don't allow


    Europa is a good prospect for simple life .. that would be a nice mission


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Europa is a good prospect for simple life .. that would be a nice mission

    http://www.wired.com/2015/02/white-house-wants-go-europa/
    buried inside the $18.5 billion budget request for NASA was an interesting tidbit: $30 million for a mission to the Jovian moon Europa, every space nerd’s favorite target in the search for extraterrestrial life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    That's an exciting mission - pity it's doubtful a lander will be included :( ..


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,446 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    the_monkey wrote: »
    That's an exciting mission - pity it's doubtful a lander will be included :( ..

    werent they looking at doing a lander that could drill through the ice?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    irishgeo wrote: »
    werent they looking at doing a lander that could drill through the ice?

    there was talk of it, the SLS would be big enough for it

    the ESA are also planning a probe but not a lander


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    I wonder will they find great big squids down there ! :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,446 ✭✭✭irishgeo




  • Registered Users Posts: 18,222 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    irishgeo wrote: »

    That story is from 2010. There is no lander planned for Europa. The ESA JUICE mission is slated to launch in 2022 and will arrive at Jupiter in 2030. The proposed NASA mission would launch some time in mid to late 2020's, arriving early 2030's. It won't include a lander due to cost and technical unknowns. Realistically a Europan lander is probably unlikely until the 2040's at the earliest.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    The Russians are planning a mission called Venera D to both land on and orbit Venus. It's scheduled to launch in the early 2020s.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭littlemac1980


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    The Russians are planning a mission called Venera D to both land on and orbit Venus. It's scheduled to launch in the early 2020s.

    Go on the Ruskies! :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_


    Hmmzis wrote: »
    There was Venus Express flown and run by ESA. Before that there was another mission that maped the whole planet with radar (Magellan). Also, a good few of the other probes we have out there have made flybys (Messenger, Cassini).
    The Last Days of MESSENGER


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