Ok, what's next?

aquinn

Kennyg71 wrote:

great session A, well inside time, well done, could make sprinter out of you yet.

Thanks G. Looking forward to reading how it goes for you now.

Murph_D

Good stuff. You didn't have a good enough reason to depart from the plan.

The meno plan doesn't have a lot of these sessions so it's good to keep them in. Lots of MP stuff to come so no harm missing that for now - give yourself a break and don't insist on doing it Fri if you don't feel like it. Thought you started a week early anyway to allow for the hols, no?

aquinn

Murph_D wrote: »

Good stuff. You didn't have a good enough reason to depart from the plan.

The meno plan doesn't have a lot of these sessions so it's good to keep them in. Lots of MP stuff to come so no harm missing that for now - give yourself a break and don't insist on doing it Fri if you don't feel like it. Thought you started a week early anyway to allow for the hols, no?

Morning,

OK so holidays/hangover and socialising aren't valid excuses?

I would like to get the 10 miles with 6 @ MP done tomorrow night as if I don't do this it'll only get harder as the MP miles increase? I've a week skiing and then another disrupted week the following weekend so missing two chunks but yes did start early.

Murph_D

aquinn wrote: »

Morning,

OK so holidays/hangover and socialising aren't valid excuses?

I would like to get the 10 miles with 6 @ MP done tomorrow night as if I don't do this it'll only get harder as the MP miles increase? I've a week skiing and then another disrupted week the following weekend so missing two chunks but yes did start early.

Well you have to get aligned with the plan at some stage so you could just do this week's MP session on Sat or Sun week and then back on schedule week after next, if I understand correctly. Your alternative would probably be OK too, although I'd be careful about recovery at this stage. You've been complaining of some soreness and your ski trip will be strenuous too, I'm sure.

aquinn

Thanks, as always.

So I'm away Saturday to Saturday and then away the following Friday-Monday. Will aim to do a few runs skiing, if at all able but they'll all be easy going as skiing tough enough. The following weekend it won't be possible to run. Yes, a few achy bits with hips. I'm going to hopefully book in with Sports Therapist on that Monday, so the 14th. Then I'm back on schedule. Actually poking at hip now the 14th seems a long way off.

aquinn

Ok so unfortunately I now know what's next for me.

It's not the 10 mile or HM that I was looking forward to in the run up to Cork. Cork has been deferred for a year.

This hurts so was avoiding this but like getting a wax when you are told to hold the skin you know it's going to hurt but I have to write this down and get it over with.

Last morning of skiing I fell and tumbled and something popped in my knee. This was my cruciate ligament rupturing. Turns out it isn't painful at all but what's next is. I've to spend the next month building up my knee for surgery as I have to get ACL reconstructive surgery, why is there no teary face???

I was doing ok but now back into routine and with perfect running weather at the minute this is hard, tears are welling.

I was very fortunate as I've already had an MRI and seen the consultant so my operation is booked. Rehab is going to take months with checkups at 3,6 and 9 months.

I was so careful all week but this happened in an instant. The brace came off last week and I'm walking normally and mostly with no pain. Of course it's sore this morning.

I thought oh fantastic I can swim and cycle in the meantime but I can't. Any jerk of the knee hurts like hell and swimming causes too much knee movement.

The garmin has been packed away and all running gear shoved into any available space. Pondering a fitbit for distraction as only exercise I can take. There will be no sailing either.

chickey2

Ah no a, that really is awful. Sorry to hear it. Don't be a stranger though, keep us updated even if it's only for a whinge. Hope the recovery goes well.

hillsiderunner

Oh **no**. Very very sorry to hear that

(good that the plans have been made and the surgery is booked at least. Hope the op goes well)

tang1

Very sorry to hear that A, that's rotten luck.

Firedance

I know how hard it was for you to post that, nothing any of us can say is going to help but we're all here, as chickey says even if its for a vent xxx

adrian522

Sorry to hear that. Sounds like a horrible injury.

Kennyg71

Really sorry to hear news, everything had been flying. Best luck with rehab,
Fingers crossed you have perfect recovery:)

aero2k

I'm so sorry to hear about your misfortune - I'm having a voluntary break to do some rehab, but I can't imagine what it must be like for you being forced to stop running when you have several goals set.

Do please keep us updated on your progress.

Neady83

Oh god A, I'm so so sorry. Let those tears fall, we can all imagine what it must feel like to be in your position. I'm so sorry this has happened to you.

I've no doubt that you'll come back from this stronger and more determined than ever before. Look at you with everything organised already, there's no procrastination or wallowing in self-pity, you're getting it sorted and starting the healing process straight away. You're already bringing your dedication and determination from your running into your recovery from this set back.

When you're feeling down, look for the positive, look to this time next year when you will be running, swimming and cycling again. This is just a blip on the map and it will make you appreciate even more the gift you have for being so good at this running malarkie Chin up and keep us up to date. Come here to rant and scream and tell us about your progress, we'll all be rooting for you

Singer

aquinn wrote: »

Last morning of skiing I fell and tumbled and something popped in my knee. This was my cruciate ligament rupturing. Turns out it isn't painful at all but what's next is. I've to spend the next month building up my knee for surgery as I have to get ACL reconstructive surgery, why is there no teary face???

Oh no, gutted for you

Really interested in reading about your treatment & recovery, if logging it helps at all.

Murph_D

How am I going to get over to the track of a Tues now?

There's no way to sugar the injury pill. Most of us get to experience the bitter taste at some stage and it is no fun. I think the only positive that comes from injury is the appreciation you get for being free of it but of course you have to recover first.

Which you will. Chin up.

tipping

That's rotten luck and a horrible injury to get. I know some people who have had the same thing and came through it ok although it's a tough old road. Wishing you the very best of luck with the recovery.

Ososlo

Not much anyone can say A but do please stay in touch with progress on the rehab etc.

Could you take up weight training maybe? Upper body stuff? Maybe if you're in a gym you could have a chat with someone and see if they have any suggestions.

Take care
xx

nop98

Really sorry to hear that A - very best of luck with your recovery.

mbarr

Very sorry to hear this A rest up and you'll come back stronger I'm sure.

denis b

Ah A thats a right royal pain for the immediate future. Have no doubt that you will fill in the gap time as productively as possible and I do hope that you manage to let us know what that involves.

HelenAnne

Really, really sorry to hear that. Hope you get well very soon and build a bullet-proof body with all your operation pre-hab.

Not sure if it would be comforting yet, but I'm reading a book at the moment that I'm really enjoying called 'How Bad Do You Want It?' by Matt Fitzgerald. It's got quite a few comeback from injury / bad things etc stories in it. Might be cheering?

Get well!

Mrs Mc

A I am so gutted for you and know that nothing anyone can say will help hang in there keep smiling and hope the recovery goes well. The 9 months will hopefully fly.

Dubgal72

Right, dinner and wine date coming up, yes, northside crew?!

Firedance

Dubgal72 wrote: »

Right, dinner and wine date coming up, yes, northside crew?!

fyp

tang1

Firedance wrote: »

fyp

She said north side crew, not Meath country bumpkins or wannabe southsiders!!

spaceylou

So so sorry to hear about injury A - my knee hurt just reading about! Best of luck with op, recovery and rehab and do tell us about it here!

annapr

Apparently cycling is allowed as rehab... She'll be heading to the tri forum yet!

aquinn

Morning,

Thanks all for all the messages. I was an emotional wreck yesterday reading them all but going for a more positive attitude today. Over walking already but will be fine. 4 weeks today to operation. From this week to last week at least now I can put on tights, when it hurt to do a sock last week so progress already.

Younganne

sorry to hear about the injury. Wishing you a successful op and a speedy recovery and keep positive.

AuldManKing

very sorry to hear this, but as others have said, try to keep positive, difficult as it may seem.

After your surgery, you may do some swimming and you might even cycle a bit, but under NO circumstances are you allowed to join the dark side

Keep us updated and look for a different hobby for a few months - you'll be amazed how quickly your routine changes. Sometimes for the better

Ferris B

Really sorry to hear about the set back A. You'll be missed in Cork.

Plenty of pre hab and re hab will have you back in action soon.

RedRunner

Just catching up here. Sorry to hear the bad news A. Really hope the OP is a success and rehab plan goes well. The very best of luck.

aquinn

Ok, as today is the 3 month anniversary of the operation I decided to update, possibly more for the log.

I spent 5 weeks of pre-hab building up the knee and leg strength. I did my exercises 3 times a day and was well prepared for the operation, according to myself obviously. There was no physio during this time but numerous calls to the hospital physio with questions like why is my knee still swelling? I couldn't cycle, swim and it turns out walk much during the time. I bought a fitbit for myself for distraction and thought great, I'd be walking everywhere. Ah how naive. No, no walking as knee continued to swell. I was able to drive but didn't have the confidence so only did short journeys. Mainly up sot St Anne's to volunteer.

I was operated on Tuesday April 12th and released the next day. They don't let you out of hospital until you can use the crutches. The staff at SSC were superb, as was the food if anyone does end up going there. I was released into the care of my parents who in shifts, with sibling help, took care of me at their home for 3 weeks which was fantastic as I couldn't do stairs. The knee felt great for the first few days. I had one minor spin in the kitchen hunting for a sweet one night and relied the fully back on crutches after that stupidity. Then the drug side effects kicked in and they were horrific. I'd heard of difine side-effects but people had been too polite with the actual details. OMFG.

A week post-op and I was off all drugs and out of compression bandage but fully reliant on the crutches. I had read the hospital blurd, I hadn't googled anything and thought I'd be off the crutches in two weeks and back to work. Ah, when I look back what a tool I was. I was on crutches for a month and going to the physio weekly. I was able to use the exercise bike after two weeks of gentle cycling 5 minutes a day. The pain and tightness in the knee was horrific but it eventually eased out. There was a lot of icing going on.

I was back with the surgeon who wasn't pleased after two weeks I wasn't walking right. I'd arrived back ready to give back the crutches as thought I was flying but he told me to keep using them. Stitches out and wound incredibly neat. He was pleased with his work anyway. Back in with him in August, so only a month now.

After 3 weeks I was allowed drive yet couldn't walk right or manage stairs. Moved out of the Parents after 3 weeks and was in tears. Dad was like 'see ya now'. Tough love in our Family.

I continued to go to the physio weekly but progress was very slow. I joined a gym in mid-May and started to use their bike, cross-trainer and get back swimming. Confidence was completely shook. I was no good in crowds and very protective of my knee. My mood was good, how did they describe me, yes stoic.

I managed two weeks of 3 days in work after 6 weeks off and had to be signed off again as I was in bits. Everything hurt like hips, back. My physio at home told me I could cycle no problem in and out of work. I couldn't, my knee would completely swell. The first time trying the bike outside was absolutely frightening. I was petrified.

Work have been fantastic and I'm extremely grateful. They gave me the option of driving in and out which made a massive difference.

I switched back to the hospital physio and should have done it a lot sooner. I went to them mid-June and he tested the knee and found no issues except muscle weakness. He put me on a routine of stretching and strengthening and much better advice of trying the bike for 10 minutes and see how I get on.

I had a check-up on Friday and THANKFULLY there is an improvement. He has upped the strength work and now has me doing scary routine in the gym that involves me going to the weights floor, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

This had me last weekend walking normally and pain-free for the first time in months. I cycled home last night and it's only a short journey and yet again the knee has swollen.

They did warn that it was a long slow recovery but I completely underestimated it. I never imagined it would be this slow.

That's it then for the minute folks.

Firedance

aquinn wrote: »

I had a check-up on Friday and THANKFULLY there is an improvement. He has upped the strength work and now has me doing scary routine in the gym that involves me going to the weights floor, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

You've been through the ringer A, a lot of pain and discomfort and not knowing when the progress would come. I don't really know how you've gotten this far with your sanity intact, stoic indeed.

Hopefully that improvement continues from here onwards and you start to notice it more over the coming months. Fair play to you too for all the parkrun volunteering over the last few months. A great way to stay involved in running, the t-shirt will look fantastic

Murph_D

It's progress, isn't that the main thing? And +1 to the above, your pain is parkrun's gain.

Ahem, where did the idea of switching to hospital physio spring from?

Looking forward to some company on the way over to the club when the big day arrives, but not before you're ready. And thanks for sparing us the gory details of the difene effects.

Keep smiling and rehabbing!

Kennyg71

Good to hear on mend even if very slowly, enjoy the weight training hopefully
You'll be stronger than ever in a few months.

spaceylou

Wow A that is tough, and I can only imagine how frustrating! I hope the improvements continue, even if slowly.

Singer

Wow, that's really tough going. Well done getting this far, and for putting up with and encouraging the rest of us runners!

Ososlo

Jeepers, I'm so sorry to hear you had such a bad time of it A. I didn't realise how bad things were for you. At least things seem to be going in the right direction now.
Looking forward to hearing of more improvements really soon.
Take care!

tang1

Sorry to hear rehab is taking a bit longer than expected A, but we all know your a determined stubborn so and so who will come back stronger and better when it's over. Patience with it, it will come good for you.

Mrs Mc

Ah good to see you back logging what a tough time you've been having yet you're smiling and full of life every time I see you definately park runs gain. baby steps and keep smiling you'll get there.

FBOT01

I see Murph is taking this Doctor thing a bit too far

Keep the faith, A. Hopefully you are over the worst of it now and you can make steady progress from here on in.

BTW I am RD in St Anne's of the 6th so the high vis Jacket will be waiting for you at 9:15 or thereabouts:)

Killerz

aquinn wrote: »

Ok, as today is the 3 month anniversary of the operation I decided to update, possibly more for the log.

I spent 5 weeks of pre-hab building up the knee and leg strength. I did my exercises 3 times a day and was well prepared for the operation, according to myself obviously. There was no physio during this time but numerous calls to the hospital physio with questions like why is my knee still swelling? I couldn't cycle, swim and it turns out walk much during the time. I bought a fitbit for myself for distraction and thought great, I'd be walking everywhere. Ah how naive. No, no walking as knee continued to swell. I was able to drive but didn't have the confidence so only did short journeys. Mainly up sot St Anne's to volunteer.

I was operated on Tuesday April 12th and released the next day. They don't let you out of hospital until you can use the crutches. The staff at SSC were superb, as was the food if anyone does end up going there. I was released into the care of my parents who in shifts, with sibling help, took care of me at their home for 3 weeks which was fantastic as I couldn't do stairs. The knee felt great for the first few days. I had one minor spin in the kitchen hunting for a sweet one night and relied the fully back on crutches after that stupidity. Then the drug side effects kicked in and they were horrific. I'd heard of difine side-effects but people had been too polite with the actual details. OMFG.

A week post-op and I was off all drugs and out of compression bandage but fully reliant on the crutches. I had read the hospital blurd, I hadn't googled anything and thought I'd be off the crutches in two weeks and back to work. Ah, when I look back what a tool I was. I was on crutches for a month and going to the physio weekly. I was able to use the exercise bike after two weeks of gentle cycling 5 minutes a day. The pain and tightness in the knee was horrific but it eventually eased out. There was a lot of icing going on.

I was back with the surgeon who wasn't pleased after two weeks I wasn't walking right. I'd arrived back ready to give back the crutches as thought I was flying but he told me to keep using them. Stitches out and wound incredibly neat. He was pleased with his work anyway. Back in with him in August, so only a month now.

After 3 weeks I was allowed drive yet couldn't walk right or manage stairs. Moved out of the Parents after 3 weeks and was in tears. Dad was like 'see ya now'. Tough love in our Family.

I continued to go to the physio weekly but progress was very slow. I joined a gym in mid-May and started to use their bike, cross-trainer and get back swimming. Confidence was completely shook. I was no good in crowds and very protective of my knee. My mood was good, how did they describe me, yes stoic.

I managed two weeks of 3 days in work after 6 weeks off and had to be signed off again as I was in bits. Everything hurt like hips, back. My physio at home told me I could cycle no problem in and out of work. I couldn't, my knee would completely swell. The first time trying the bike outside was absolutely frightening. I was petrified.

Work have been fantastic and I'm extremely grateful. They gave me the option of driving in and out which made a massive difference.

I switched back to the hospital physio and should have done it a lot sooner. I went to them mid-June and he tested the knee and found no issues except muscle weakness. He put me on a routine of stretching and strengthening and much better advice of trying the bike for 10 minutes and see how I get on.

I had a check-up on Friday and THANKFULLY there is an improvement. He has upped the strength work and now has me doing scary routine in the gym that involves me going to the weights floor, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

This had me last weekend walking normally and pain-free for the first time in months. I cycled home last night and it's only a short journey and yet again the knee has swollen.

They did warn that it was a long slow recovery but I completely underestimated it. I never imagined it would be this slow.

That's it then for the minute folks.

I really didn't have an appreciation of how tough it's been for you, A, and I'm glad you put it up there for us to read... Any time I've met you since, you've been your usual cheery self! Great to see there is improvement for you and I'm sure it's incredibly tough to be so patient as you recover. Best of luck with the next steps - keep us updated.

Younganne

ah those were a tough few months for you, wishing you all the best with the rest of the recovery.

chickey2

Sounds like you've been through a lot! Glad to hear things are improving. Keep us updated!

hillsiderunner

Ohhhhh, those are three tough months, I guess the only positive thing is that they are over now. Hope that will be the worst of it and that things will improve over the next while. Don't be afraid to back off any time the knee is complaining, the building of fitness can wait.

denis b

Hey A, thanks for taking the trouble to document and report your experience. If it was only about pb's the forum would be all the poorer. Fair play on all the hard work you have put into improving your lot and glad you can see your own progress. You will get there.

Neady83

Hi A, just checking up on you to see how rehab is going?

Singer

Neady83 wrote: »

Hi A, just checking up on you to see how rehab is going?

Bump :P