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Almost two months before those updates come though.
Will see how it all comes together, and what we will be cursing when it comes around.
Until then:
Thorn!

wes

Wow the ice breaker and black hammer nerfs are awful. Neither was op. Ice Breaker already had a slow recharge and you had to be very good to get 3 shots constantly with black hammer.

AdamD

Great patch, any word on a date though?

Mitch Connor

AdamD wrote: »

Great patch, any word on a date though?

Will drop with (or maybe a few days before) The Taken King in September - so on or near (before) Septemebr 15th.

IIRC the patch for The House of Wolves dropped the weekend before it HoW was released - so people could get straight to playing rather than spending an age downloading patch stuff.

AdamD

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Will drop with (or maybe a few days before) The Taken King in September - so on or near (before) Septemebr 15th.

IIRC the patch for The House of Wolves dropped the weekend before it HoW was released - so people could get straight to playing rather than spending an age downloading patch stuff.

Well that's crap

Mickeroo

Yeah pretty lousy, there's no reason to hold off a weapon balancing patch for 2 months.

Mitch Connor

wes wrote: »

Wow the ice breaker and black hammer nerfs are awful. Neither was op. Ice Breaker already had a slow recharge and you had to be very good to get 3 shots constantly with black hammer.

Whatever about the IB nerf (and its stupid imo) the nerf of BH makes it nigh on useless.

ibFoxer

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Whatever about the IB nerf (and its stupid imo) the nerf of BH makes it nigh on useless.

Where is this info coming from?

Mickeroo

foxerv1 wrote: »

Where is this info coming from?

Here ya go: https://www.bungie.net/7_Destiny-Weapon-Tuning-20/en/News/News?aid=13147

Or if that's blocked at work: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3dkg6x/destiny_weapon_tuning_20/

onlyTobes

Serious trolling from sperm-face.
Helm Inmost Light
Nighthawk
Helmet Engram
No weapon

TitianGerm

onlyTobes wrote: »

Serious trolling from sperm-face.
Helm Inmost Light
Nighthawk
Helmet Engram
No weapon

You forgot sunbreakers :P

onlyTobes

emmetkenny wrote: »

You forgot sunbreakers :P

I was trying to blocking them out.
What is seen cannot be unseen

OptimusTractor

I was always surprised that the auto reload on BH didn't use reserve ammo as with Bad Juju.

ibFoxer

Mickeroo wrote: »

Here ya go: https://www.bungie.net/7_Destiny-Weapon-Tuning-20/en/News/News?aid=13147

Or if that's blocked at work: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3dkg6x/destiny_weapon_tuning_20/

Had I opened the App I could have seen it :P oh well, cheers for that

cableguy.ie

So someone doesn't really like the nerfing of the gjallerhorn.
In fact they have started to petition the white house to stop it.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-bungie-nerfing-gjallerhorn-destiny

At the count only 41 people have signed out of 100000.:rolleyes:

Mickeroo

It's emmett isn't it, he only just got one and now they're nerfing it the poor lad.

thebag89

cableguy.ie wrote: »

So someone doesn't really like the nerfing of the gjallerhorn.
In fact they have started to petition the white house to stop it.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-bungie-nerfing-gjallerhorn-destiny

At the count only 41 people have signed out of 100000.:rolleyes:

I just don't know what to say to that.

Generic Dreadhead

Overall I'm pleased with the proposed changes.

Seems like Picking a weapon TYPE that suits you in PvP will be viable and then you can further specialise with ARCHETYPES and PERKS

Here's my summary

• Auto rifles will Return to come sort of usability
• Hard Light will soon be king
• Ice Breaker is less useful, but still not total garbage
• The days of changing to Black Hammer before the Spider Tank etc are over
• Thorn got triple teamed with the Nerfs, (Blanket Handcannon Nerf, Specific DoT Nerf and General "Send-it" Perk Nerf)
• Hawkmoon is good but not God-Tier
• The Last Word is probably going to be the most garbage PvE exotic and pretty useless in PvP
• G-Horn is no longer as OP (mini-rockets are less damaging)
• Lord of Wolves unlocks the 10th Subclass (Medic)
• No-Land-Beyond is slightly less garbage
• Nechrochasm is going to be really decent in PvE and viable in PvP
• Rocket Launcher Proxy Detonation area will be slightly smaller
• Final Round on Snipers only activates with a Critical hit (making it unnoticeable in PvP now)
• Felwinters Lie God-Tier Roll (Rangefinder AND Shot Package) will be nerfed pretty hard
• Scout Rifles, Pulse Rifles and Fusion Rifles have been tweaked but neither Buffed nor Nerferd

cableguy.ie wrote: »

So someone doesn't really like the nerfing of the gjallerhorn.
In fact they have started to petition the white house to stop it.

People can be entitled morons. I welcome the Nerf. No more LFG "G-Horn Needed" posts maybe

Mickeroo

The blanket nerf on handcannons is a bit short sighted I think, Thorn and TLW (and Hawkmoon I guess but don't know)were the only ones that were OP, shows they haven't learned from their mistakes with the auto-rifle nerf.

Generic Dreadhead

Mickeroo wrote: »

The blanket nerf on handcannons is a bit short sighted I think, Thorn and TLW (and Hawkmoon I guess but don't know)were the only ones that were OP, shows they haven't learned from their mistakes with the auto-rifle nerf.

It seems like they tried to mess with everything they could that wasn't IMPACT

• Start damage falloff closer to the player to limit long range lethality
• Small reduction in ADS accuracy, targeted at making long range snap-shooting less reliable
• Reduce final accuracy when firing from hip
• Fast firing from hip is less reliable
• Reduce magazine size for all base inventory stats
• Reduce base Optics (zoom) for all Hand Cannons
• ADS now grants more width in favor of depth - WTF Does this even mean? :pac:

ibFoxer

Cormac... wrote: »

Overall I'm pleased with the proposed changes.

Seems like Picking a weapon TYPE that suits you in PvP will be viable and then you can further specialise with ARCHETYPES and PERKS

Here's my summary

• Auto rifles will Return to come sort of usability
• Hard Light will soon be king
• Ice Breaker is less useful, but still not total garbage
• The days of changing to Black Hammer before the Spider Tank etc are over
• Thorn got triple teamed with the Nerfs, (Blanket Handcannon Nerf, Specific DoT Nerf and General "Send-it" Perk Nerf)
• Hawkmoon is good but not God-Tier
• The Last Word is probably going to be the most garbage PvE exotic and pretty useless in PvP
• G-Horn is no longer as OP (mini-rockets are less damaging)
• Lord of Wolves unlocks the 10th Subclass (Medic)
• No-Land-Beyond is slightly less garbage
• Nechrochasm is going to be really decent in PvE and viable in PvP
• Rocket Launcher Proxy Detonation area will be slightly smaller
• Final Round on Snipers only activates with a Critical hit (making it unnoticeable in PvP now)
• Felwinters Lie God-Tier Roll (Rangefinder AND Shot Package) will be nerfed pretty hard
• Scout Rifles, Pulse Rifles and Fusion Rifles have been tweaked but neither Buffed nor Nerferd

People can be entitled morons. I welcome the Nerf. No more LFG "G-Horn Needed" posts maybe

Happy to see the Thorn get somewhat nerfed- scrapped the bounty the other day, will never use it.

Now to upgrade my hard light.

EDIT- although the Icebreaker berg is baffling- almost a minute to go from 0-6 in the clip?

TitianGerm

Mickeroo wrote: »

It's emmett isn't it, he only just got one and now they're nerfing it the poor lad.

Jeus Mick get with the programme I've 3 now :P I got my first the day HOW dropped in a level 28 POE.

Happiest day of my life so far

OptimusTractor

foxerv1 wrote: »

Happy to see the Thorn get somewhat nerfed- scrapped the bounty the other day, will never use it.

Now to upgrade my hard light.

EDIT- although the Icebreaker berg is baffling- almost a minute to go from 0-6 in the clip?

No grimoire card for you sir.

sniper_samurai

onlyTobes wrote: »

Serious trolling from sperm-face.
Helm Inmost Light
Nighthawk
Helmet Engram
No weapon

Apparently its a glitch. Bungie have said on twitter that they are working on fixing Xurs inventory this week.

Hococop

sniper_samurai wrote: »

Apparently its a glitch. Bungie have said on twitter that they are working on fixing Xurs inventory this week.

Not good enough bungie, only way to fix this horrible error is to have xur sell gjallarhorn

Generic Dreadhead

The salt over on Reddit over the patch is strong.

8/10 would avoid for a few days

sniper_samurai

Cormac... wrote: »

The salt over on Reddit over the patch is strong.

8/10 would avoid for a few days

Its Reddit. There is more salt on that site than in the ocean.

Bohrio

Cormac... wrote: »

The salt over on Reddit over the patch is strong.

8/10 would avoid for a few days

Personally I dont care, happy with more weapon stabilization specially auto rifles. However I do feel IB changes are gonna make it less useful to the point of being another NLB and only used to do the heavy ammo glitch.

The ghorn nerf, the idea behind makes sense, however it is going to backfire. I think it was Adam who once said that he rather chose someone with a ghorn (on places such as LFG) than someone without it, just because you dont really know how good that person is and having a ghorn kinda makes up for it.

However, now, the nerf is going to make this sites much more selective, for instance, picky people will start looking at experience, kd, completions, etc instead of just weapons. They will still probably require ghorn but now they are gonna look for other requirements such as must have completed it several times, kd over 20 etc which is going to make elitism much worse.

Also I feel that with all those nerf they are making exotic weapons much less exotic which is a shame, in a way, although I am not saying they shouldnt nerf thorn etc, but I feel Hawkmoon is going to be the best HC in the game now.

We will see how it turns out, from experience I know that, everytime bungie introduces weapon changes they f... something up... so lets see what is going to become the next thorn!

AdamD

Agree with you that from what I can make out Hawkmoon will be the best gun. Looks like they attempted to remove 2 shot kills from PvP if I've read it correctly, ie. Thorn won't do it and high impact Pulse Rifles won't either if you have a decent armour rating. If everything is 3 hit I think Hawkmoon wins out for range and handling. Now that everyone is used to using HCs I'd be surprised if Auto Rifles are good at top end play, they still require you to be vulnerable for longer than a HC where you can pop shots off while going in and out of cover. PvE wise I think the blanket changes are great, IB and BH don't bother me too much as its been months since I've had a use for either, get yourself a Spear/Benevolence with a good roll and you won't miss them.

SteveDPirate

foxerv1 wrote: »

Happy to see the Thorn get somewhat nerfed- scrapped the bounty the other day, will never use it.

Now to upgrade my hard light.

EDIT- although the Icebreaker berg is baffling- almost a minute to go from 0-6 in the clip?

:eek: you're mad scrapping the bounty! No doubt Thorn needs a nerf, but it will still be usable in Crucible and packs a punch in PvE.

I think people are over reacting to the Icebreaker nerf too. The gun has infinite ammo!!! The only thing that will change is that you won't be able to fire it as often as you can right now. I don't think that's a big deal. It may encourage people to use other guns, which is not a bad thing. Bungie have always wanted an even spread of weapon use in the game. They screwed up royally with the last weapon rebalance. I'm happy with most of the changes. I'm looking forward to using ARs in Crucible, and the Necrochasm in PvE. That could be a beast in raids.

The Gjallarhorn nerf is the most surprising though. Why did they wait over 9 months to do this? That's one weapon I thought they would leave untouched because of the exclusivity of it.