A cyclist got my goat...

scorn

From the Phoenix Park all the way to O'Connell Bridge it's touch and go as to which mode of transport is quicker (regarding motorbikes and cycles).

This morning a cyclist passed me by the park, then I passed him on an open stretch, then he passed me after pushing through the red light etc. etc. all the way down.

Near O'Connel there was a gap between a bus (in the bus lane) and the cars, but I couldn't fit so waited. That same cyclist started ringing his bell at me then cursing me. I got through the gap after the cars moved a bit but this guy stayed on my tail ringing and cursing.

After O'Connell we both went straight through and I went his pace and asked what his problem was. He had the audacity to tell me I wasn't allowed in the bus lanes! Are cyclists above the law in that they can break the red lights but then police other road users? (He had no reply to that).

Anyway - sure there are lots of threads on this so I won't harp on. It's therapeutic though

blu3r0ri0n

This should cheer you up!

beauf

The summary of this saga seems to be that you should be able to do what the heck you like without anyone giving out to you. Seems a bit like sawing a branch that you are standing on.

If you enough leave space for others they probably wouldn't notice you.

scorn

beauf wrote: »

If you enough leave space for others they probably wouldn't notice you.

It's a bit tricky extracting a motorcycle from between a bus and a car once you've committed, but then realised there's not enough room... (if that's what you meant by that phrase!)

beauf

Maybe filtering is not your thing.

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Wossack

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beauf

I can't add anything new in reply to that...

beauf wrote: »

...If you enough leave space for others they probably wouldn't notice you.

Mesrine65

But what happened to the goat?

Is this a new thing, cyclists kidnapping goats?

rat_race

scorn wrote: »

From the Phoenix Park all the way to O'Connell Bridge it's touch and go as to which mode of transport is quicker (regarding motorbikes and cycles).

This morning a cyclist passed me by the park, then I passed him on an open stretch, then he passed me after pushing through the red light etc. etc. all the way down.

Near O'Connel there was a gap between a bus (in the bus lane) and the cars, but I couldn't fit so waited. That same cyclist started ringing his bell at me then cursing me. I got through the gap after the cars moved a bit but this guy stayed on my tail ringing and cursing.

After O'Connell we both went straight through and I went his pace and asked what his problem was. He had the audacity to tell me I wasn't allowed in the bus lanes! Are cyclists above the law in that they can break the red lights but then police other road users? (He had no reply to that).

Anyway - sure there are lots of threads on this so I won't harp on. It's therapeutic though

Two wrongs don't make a right, blah, blah, blahhhh. If you were in the bus lane, and blocked the cyclist because you weren't aware of your surroundings (i.e., there's a cyclist behind you, cars/buses blocking you) or simply just don't care, then I'd be a pissed off cyclist too.

It's no different than a car blocking a motorcyclist from filtering because they're too far on one side of the lane and too dumb/lazy to move to the centre.

beauf

Mesrine65 wrote: »

But what happened to the goat?

Is this a new thing, cyclists kidnapping goats?

Maybe just kidding around?

Wossack

gap was between a bus in the buslane, and the cars, so effectively on the bus lane boundary line. I'd be asking why the cyclist wasnt going up the inside of the bus (nearside), rather then vying with you on the outside of the bus (offside)..

I suspect, like you, he was caught out of position (no attack intended, we all get caught from time to time). Only you didnt feel the need to give out about the cars and buses impeding your progress - realising it for what it was; an entirely futile pursuit

beauf

Wossack wrote: »

...I'd be asking why the cyclist wasnt going up the inside of the bus (nearside), rather then vying with you on the outside of the bus (offside).. ...

Because its a good way to get crushed/pinched by the bus and/or passengers.

Cyclists should avoid going up the inside of large vehicles in general. So it should be expected that cyclists would go up the outside of such vehicles.

Its also where new cyclists clinging to the cycle lane, and people telling them to keep left, might not always be good advice.

beauf

As Wossack says everyone gets caught out. Live an let live.

Max Headroom

When cyclists start paying insurance and road tax then AND ONLY THEN will i have respect for them..( not all bad i know blah blah )....:)

beauf

So you wouldn't give pedestrians respect on the road then. Like a kid crossing the road.

How do you know the cyclist doesn't also have a car and/or a motorbike. They probably drive, ride exactly like they cycle.

furiousox

Max Headroom wrote: »

When cyclists start paying insurance and road tax then AND ONLY THEN will i have respect for them..( not all bad i know blah blah )....:)

By 'road tax' I take it you mean 'motor tax'?

rat_race

Max Headroom wrote: »

When cyclists start paying insurance and road tax then AND ONLY THEN will i have respect for them..( not all bad i know blah blah )....:)

Road tax? What's that? No such thing, blah, blah. Maybe you mean motor tax? For a bicycle? But that hasn't got a motor...

Insurance...what type of insurance? I'm sure lots of cyclists have insurance...health insurance...house insurance, travel insurance, etc. Oh, you mean "motor insurance"? For a bicycle? But that hasn't got a motor...

rat_race

rat_race wrote: »

Road tax? What's that? No such thing, blah, blah. Maybe you mean motor tax? For a bicycle? But that hasn't got a motor...

Insurance...what type of insurance? I'm sure lots of cyclists have insurance...health insurance...house insurance, travel insurance, etc. Oh, you mean "motor insurance"? For a bicycle? But that hasn't got a motor...

Anyway, let's not kick of this debate again.

But hey, now we know why you're called Max Headroom! Plenty of space in there... HOH HOH HOHHHHH

beauf

Impatient rule breaking, causing conflict with other impatient rule breaking.

Did you not see Ghost Busters

http://www.timsackett.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Dont-Cross-the-Streams.jpg

beauf

rat_race wrote: »

Road tax? What's that? No such thing, blah, blah. Maybe you mean motor tax? For a bicycle? But that hasn't got a motor...

Insurance...what type of insurance? I'm sure lots of cyclists have insurance...health insurance...house insurance, travel insurance, etc. Oh, you mean "motor insurance"? For a bicycle? But that hasn't got a motor...

Its all non specific tax in one great pot unless its not.

rowanh

I was thinking the other day how little i get pissed off while on the motorbike (while commuting) compare to when i used to cycle. Pretty much every single day when i was on the bicycle i would feel some level of anger often rage with people stepping out in front of me, cars pulling out in front of me and stopping, stopping in yellow boxes blocking me, buses overtaking me then pulling in to stop and essentially running me off the road etc etc. I used to want to attach a tack hammer to my crossbar to whack cars with. On the motorbike there is some of that but its much easier to control and avoid, also slowing down and speeding up is far less hassle.

Seanie_H

Ah, there's a type of person I suppose. The type that'll sit on the horn beeping at a car accidentally caught a yellow box and probably wouldnt say boo to you in "real life".

I do a bit of cycling too and have zero respect with people who have bells on their bikes... unless it matches their basket and tassles. A bell on a push bike re enforces a cyclist's sense of entitlement which is sky high already.

beauf

Impatience with other people impatience is a real theme in this thread. Or a sense of entitlement.

So we're against bells? AFAIK an audible bell is a legal requirement. But just like a horn. You can use it within reason or like an idiot. Do you feel the same about headlights, horns etc?

Carpenter

Max Headroom wrote: »

When cyclists start paying insurance and road tax then AND ONLY THEN will i have respect for them..( not all bad i know blah blah )....:)

A lot of us do blah blah

rowanh

How exactly does a bell enforces a cyclist's sense of entitlement? I had one on my first adult bike and found it was completely useless.

Skill Magill

For some reason cyclists don't give me shte, ringing their bells after me and whatnot, thats cause I drive a bike and I drive fast.:) I leave the little entitled fúckers in a plumbe of yamylube, eat it cyclists.

rat_race

Impatience with other people's impatience with other people's impatience is a real theme in this thread.

zubair

Max Headroom

Top 5 of my hate list...in order..

IS
Cyclists
Taxi drivers
Paedos
Nova

Seanie_H

The bells, the bells, the bells.

Something else about cyclists.... they're great for trolling on boards.

beauf

No bells on Guys bikes.