Rotherham victim says abusers are 'untouchable'

bjork

It seems like a few of the Councillors are posting on this thread

reprise

DeadHand wrote: »

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Personal abuse, calls for censorship, prejudicial accusations of racism, false accusations of rulebreaking, shouting down of opposing opinion and the vilification of those who have the temerity to hold them...

Some of our more "liberal, "tolerant" and "open" minds have really shown their true colours on this thread.

I'm sorry Deadpan, but I cannot accept there is anything even remotely liberal about the kind of people who despise freedom of expression. Nor do I think it's liberal to downplay sexual torture and rape of children. There is a far more insidious issue not being dealt with and it really should not be conflated with liberalism.

Frito

DeadHand wrote: »

Such a critique would not fit with the feminist/leftist dogma that white heterosexual men are the sole root of all the world's evil.

So feminism devotes it's effort instead to the demonisation of the perfectly innocuous Page 3, degrading historical human achievement by seeking to ruin a brilliant man for his choice of attire and the vindictive total destruction of the life and career of the hapless Ched Evans who would be happily plying his trade as we speak were he slightly duskier.

You know, the really dangerous misogyny in the world. Not trifling little matters like the organised rape and torture of thousands of white female children by predominately Muslim men and it's subsequent cover up by the authorities.

We probably share some concerns then, although I can't endorse all of your post.

I went back through Casey's report.

9 pages discuss the denial of the agencies involved
3 pages discuss the bullying culture in the council
5 pages discuss the issue of race
4 pages discuss the failure of Children's services
7 pages discuss the failure of the police
7 pages discuss the treatment/perception of victims

All of the above enabled the abuse to continue. If we are to learn then we need to address the report in it's entirety and not just pages 32-36.

porsche959

I am sickened reading some of the recent posts from the usual suspects in this thread, sickened. Some amount of trollery going on.

Anyway:


Bullying culture in local government offices, what's all this?? Nah, can't be, it's all about the feminazi librul political correctness gibber gibber gibber.

reprise

porsche959 wrote: »

I am sickened reading some of the recent posts from the usual suspects in this thread, sickened. Some amount of trollery going on.

Anyway:


Bullying culture in local government offices, what's all this?? Nah, can't be, it's all about the feminazi librul political correctness gibber gibber gibber.

What exactly is your point? A culture of political correctness cannot be bullying?

Is that really all you have? After all this time? What do you want? Pictures?

end of the road

reprise wrote: »

What exactly is your point? A culture of political correctness cannot be bullying?

Is that really all you have? After all this time? What do you want? Pictures?

he/she has a lot more then you will ever have. all you and the usual suspects have got is "ja mudlimz" "ja political correctness" and "ja pc brigade"

reprise

end of the road wrote: »

he/she has a lot more then you will ever have. all you and the usual suspects have got is "ja mudlimz" "ja political correctness" and "ja pc brigade"

Ja end of the road. Freedom of expression is verboten JA? ja mudlimz rapsy gangz JA Gut JA

Oh, you are missing "Rabel Rabel"

Or should that be "now then, now then."

You can add it to your blogs greatest hits.

GalwayGuitar

end of the road wrote: »

he/she has a lot more then you will ever have. all you and the usual suspects have got is "ja mudlimz" "ja political correctness" and "ja pc brigade"

Even if we were way off, which we're not, why is it so terrible to question multiculturalism, race relations and political correctness?

RobYourBuilder

Nodin wrote: »

Race on the brain.....

‘Imams promote grooming rings’, Muslim leader claimsThe Oxford grooming ring was promoted by imams who encourage followers to think white women deserve to be “punished”, an Islamic leader has claimed.

Dr Taj Hargey, imam of the Oxford Islamic Congregation, said race and religion were inextricably linked to the recent spate of grooming rings in which Muslim men have targeted under-age white girls.

Earlier this week seven members of a child sex ring from Oxford were found guilty of forcing under age girls to commit acts of "extreme depravity".

Their victims, aged between 11 and 15, were groomed and plied with alcohol and drugs before being sexually assaulted and forced into prostitution. They targeted "out of control" teenagers.

Dr Hargey said that the case brought shame on the city and the community and is a set back for cross community harmony.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10061217/Imams-promote-grooming-rings-Muslim-leader-claims.html

I guess he must have 'race on the brain' too?

Nodin

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10061217/Imams-promote-grooming-rings-Muslim-leader-claims.html

I guess he must have 'race on the brain' too?

Seems to.

RobYourBuilder

Another grooming gang have been charged. This time in Calderdale.

Twenty five men have been charged with child sex offences against two girls in Calderdale following a major police operation.In what police say is the largest child sexual exploitation (CSE) investigation in the country - bigger than high profile cases in Rochdale and Rotherham - the men face a combined total of 59 charges, including rape, sexual activity with a child under 16 and trafficking for the purposes of sexual exploitation.

The men, who are mainly from Halifax, are accused of committing the offences between 2006 and 2011.

A year-long investigation eventually saw them arrested in May 2013 and they were all formally charged at Halifax Police Station on Wednesday. They have all been released on bail and are due to appear at Calderdale Magistrates Court next Thursday.

The allegations centre around two girls, who are believed to have been in Calderdale Council’s care when the men were arrested, although the majority of them relate to one girl. It is thought the girls were as young as 13 when they were allegedly abused.

The majority of the men charged are from the Asian community and there are fears that the investigation could impact on race relations in Halifax.

However, Temporary Chief Superintendent Owen West, District Commander for Calderdale, said there are no immediate plans to heighten patrols around the town.

“Our issue going forward is around community engagement and how we respond to any issues that come on the back of these charges,” he said.

“For a period of time it’s highly likely that Calderdale will be under the spotlight a little bit.

“If we get increased tension or anger we have got plans to meet that. But we’re not going to go out in traditional high visibility yellow jackets because there’s no need for that at this stage.

“We’re very much seeing it as business as usual for now.”

Police officers and police partners were informed about the development in the investigation on Wednesday.

http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/crime/child-sexual-abuse-ring-in-halifax-25-men-charged-police-reaction-1-7096362

nokia69

The majority of the men charged are from the Asian community

I wonder are they from Japan or China

reprise

bjork wrote: »

It seems like a few of the Councillors are posting on this thread

I suppose it keeps them off the streets.

Henry9

end of the road wrote: »

he/she has a lot more then you will ever have. all you and the usual suspects have got is "ja mudlimz" "ja political correctness" and "ja pc brigade"

And facts. And a detailed independent report. And the news that similar gangs have been charged in other towns.

end of the road

Henry9 wrote: »

And facts. And a detailed independent report. And the news that similar gangs have been charged in other towns.

what "facts"
no, they are just using the gangs for their anti-muslim, anti-immigration, anti-multi-culturalism agenda is all.

reprise

end of the road wrote: »

what "facts"
no, they are just using the gangs for their anti-muslim, anti-immigration, anti-multi-culturalism agenda is all.

Have you researched that blog idea yet? It seems such a waste to have to keep on churning out the same weird lines over and over again when you could just post a link.

Henry9

end of the road wrote: »

what "facts"
no, they are just using the gangs for their anti-muslim, anti-immigration, anti-multi-culturalism agenda is all.

The facts in the independent report into these events. You know, those things that weren't happening, and anyone who said they were was Islamaphobic. Do you want the link again?

Jeez, it's a real mystery why these events were suppressed for so long, what with the constant accusations of racism and Islamaphobia when then the truth is inconvenient.
But yeah carry on, if you repeat the same nonsense over and over it might make it true.

On the other hand, maybe the genie is out of the bottle and we'll hear of plenty more similar gangs operating throughout England.
I wonder if they'll have anything in common.

DeadHand

Henry9 wrote: »

On the other hand, maybe the genie is out of the bottle and we'll hear of plenty more similar gangs operating throughout England.
I wonder if they'll have anything in common.

We are.

They do.

DeadHand

Nodin wrote: »

Race on the brain.....

They are racist crimes.

end of the road

Henry9 wrote: »

The facts in the independent report into these events. You know, those things that weren't happening, and anyone who said they were was Islamaphobic. Do you want the link again?

Jeez, it's a real mystery why these events were suppressed for so long, what with the constant accusations of racism and Islamaphobia when then the truth is inconvenient.
But yeah carry on, if you repeat the same nonsense over and over it might make it true.

On the other hand, maybe the genie is out of the bottle and we'll hear of plenty more similar gangs operating throughout England.
I wonder if they'll have anything in common.

who said that those who were saying something was happening were "Islamaphobic." . what constant accusations of racism and Islamaphobia

reprise

end of the road wrote: »

who said that those who were saying something was happening were "Islamaphobic." . what constant accusations of racism and Islamaphobia

Ja pc Brigaden Ja

Henry9

end of the road wrote: »

who said that those who were saying something was happening were "Islamaphobic." . what constant accusations of racism and Islamaphobia

Jack Straw highlighted it and was accused of Islamaphobia. Julie Bindell wrote about it and was put on an Islamaphobia watch list. There was a documentary produced on Bradford about 2004 which was criticised for being 'insensitive'.
That's before you get the report into the matter where staff members were told to omit that the men were predominantly Asian, or the person who was sent on 'sensitivity' training for pointing out the racial element to the crimes.
Or how about this thread were we all have 'an agenda' and are 'anti Muslim' and 'abusing the girls again' for our own nefarious ends.
Or the accusations of racism and calls for censorship and closing the thread?

Go back to post #2 in this thread (after deletions)
.....and cases will continue to be swept under the carpet. Because there are too many interest groups preventing discussion. Anything to deflect. Even in this thread the first page is swipes at everything other than discussion of the abusers and the lack of action by the police.

RobYourBuilder

Another grooming gang charged. This is insane.

Twenty more people have been charged with sexual offences as part of police’s Operation Sanctuary probe.

The charges follow the 13-month investigation into allegations of offences committed against vulnerable women and girls across the North East.

So far, 31 people have been charged as part of the operation and the latest charges relate to 12 victims, aged between 13 and 25.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/northumbria-police-charged-20-people-8587632

bjork

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

Another grooming gang charged. This is insane.



http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/northumbria-police-charged-20-people-8587632

Those charged

- Eisa Mousavi, 39, of Todds Nook, Newcastle has been charged with sexual assault by touching on a female 13 or over; intimidating a witness/juror/person assisting the investigation; rape of a female aged 16 or over; supplying or offering to supply a class B controlled drug; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Monjur Choudhury, 30, of Philip Place, Newcastle has been charged with permit use of premises for supply of drugs; supply or offer to supply class B controlled drugs; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Redwan Siddquee, 30, of West Road, Newcastle has been charged with causing or inciting prostitution for gain; supply or offering to supply a class B controlled drug.

- Mohammed Hassan Ali, 32, of Bentinck Street, Newcastle has been charged with a sexual act on a female and possession of mephadrone with intent to supply.

- Abdulhamid Minoyee, 31, of Gainsbrough Grove, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female aged 16 or over; supply or offer to supply cannabis; sexual assault by touching a female 13 or over.

- Ebrahim Ali, 38, of Wetherby Grove, Gateshead has been charged with supply or offer to supply a class B controlled drug; supply or offer to supply a class A controlled drug; trafficking within the UK for sexual exploitation; arrange child prostitution; rape of a female aged 16 or over.

- Habibur Rahim, 32, of Kenilworth Road, Newcastle has been charged with sexual assault by touching a female 13 or over; administering a substance with intent; sexual assault by touching a female 13 or over; supply or offering to supply a class B controlled drug; supply or offer to supply cannabis; trafficking within the UK for sexual exploitation; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Ibrahim Rousel, 34, of Manor Gardens, Wardley has been charged with rape of a female aged 16 or over and administering a substance with intent.

- Mohammed Khalique, 22, of Beaconsfield Street, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female aged 16 or over; supply or offer to supply a class B controlled drug.

- Mohammed Azram, 33, of Croydon Road, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female aged 16 or over; supply of mephadrone; supply or offer to supply a class B controlled drug; sexual assault by touching a female aged 13 or over; trafficking within the UK for sexual exploitation; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Nadeem Aslam, 41, of Belle Grove West, Newcastle has been charged with possession of cannabis; possession of mephadrone; supply of mephadrone; permit the use of premises for supply of drugs; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Prabhat Nelli, 31, Corporation Road, Newcastle has been charged with supply or offer to supply a class B drug and causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Taherul Alam, 29, of Normanton Terrace, Newcastle has been charged with supply or offer to supply a class B controlled drug; permit the use of premises to supply drugs; sexual assault by touching on a female 13 or over; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Yassar Hussain, 25, of Canning Street, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female aged 16 or over; permit the use of premises to supply drugs; assault occasioning actual bodily harm; possession of mephadrone; possession of amphetamine; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Jahangir Zaman, 41, of Hadrian Road, Newcastle has been charged with supply or offer to supply a class B controlled drug and causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Badrul Hussain, 34, of Drybeck Court, has been charged with rape of a female aged under 16; supply of mephadrone; permit the use of a premises to supply drugs and causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Abdul Sabe, 37, of Dean House, Newcastle has been charged with possession of cannabis; trafficking within the UK for sexual exploitation; non-penatrative sexual activity with a girl 13 to 15; supply or offer to supply cannabis; sexual assault by touching a female 13 or over and administering a substance with intent.

- Karzan Mohammed, 23, of Graingerville South, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female under 16; falsely imprison/detain another; supply or offer to supply cannabis; assault occasioning actual bodily harm; administering a substance with intent; rape of a female aged 16 or over and trafficking within the UK for sexual exploitation.

- Saiful Islam, 32, of Strathmore Crescent, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female aged under 16 and supply or offer to supply cannabis.

- Nashir Uddin, 33, of Joan Street, Newcastle has been charged with supply or offer to supply a class A controlled drug; supply of mephadrone; permit the use of premises for supply of drugs; rape of a female under 16; causing or inciting prostitution for gain; failing to surrender to custody/respond to bail.

- A 34-year-old man, from Newcastle, has received a summons in relation to a sexual assault and administering a substance with intent.

obplayer

bjork wrote: »

Those charged

- Eisa Mousavi, 39, of Todds Nook, Newcastle has been charged with sexual assault by touching on a female 13 or over; intimidating a witness/juror/person assisting the investigation; rape of a female aged 16 or over; supplying or offering to supply a class B controlled drug; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Monjur Choudhury, 30, of Philip Place, Newcastle has been charged with permit use of premises for supply of drugs; supply or offer to supply class B controlled drugs; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Redwan Siddquee, 30, of West Road, Newcastle has been charged with causing or inciting prostitution for gain; supply or offering to supply a class B controlled drug.

- Mohammed Hassan Ali, 32, of Bentinck Street, Newcastle has been charged with a sexual act on a female and possession of mephadrone with intent to supply.

- Abdulhamid Minoyee, 31, of Gainsbrough Grove, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female aged 16 or over; supply or offer to supply cannabis; sexual assault by touching a female 13 or over.

- Ebrahim Ali, 38, of Wetherby Grove, Gateshead has been charged with supply or offer to supply a class B controlled drug; supply or offer to supply a class A controlled drug; trafficking within the UK for sexual exploitation; arrange child prostitution; rape of a female aged 16 or over.

- Habibur Rahim, 32, of Kenilworth Road, Newcastle has been charged with sexual assault by touching a female 13 or over; administering a substance with intent; sexual assault by touching a female 13 or over; supply or offering to supply a class B controlled drug; supply or offer to supply cannabis; trafficking within the UK for sexual exploitation; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Ibrahim Rousel, 34, of Manor Gardens, Wardley has been charged with rape of a female aged 16 or over and administering a substance with intent.

- Mohammed Khalique, 22, of Beaconsfield Street, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female aged 16 or over; supply or offer to supply a class B controlled drug.

- Mohammed Azram, 33, of Croydon Road, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female aged 16 or over; supply of mephadrone; supply or offer to supply a class B controlled drug; sexual assault by touching a female aged 13 or over; trafficking within the UK for sexual exploitation; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Nadeem Aslam, 41, of Belle Grove West, Newcastle has been charged with possession of cannabis; possession of mephadrone; supply of mephadrone; permit the use of premises for supply of drugs; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Prabhat Nelli, 31, Corporation Road, Newcastle has been charged with supply or offer to supply a class B drug and causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Taherul Alam, 29, of Normanton Terrace, Newcastle has been charged with supply or offer to supply a class B controlled drug; permit the use of premises to supply drugs; sexual assault by touching on a female 13 or over; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Yassar Hussain, 25, of Canning Street, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female aged 16 or over; permit the use of premises to supply drugs; assault occasioning actual bodily harm; possession of mephadrone; possession of amphetamine; causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Jahangir Zaman, 41, of Hadrian Road, Newcastle has been charged with supply or offer to supply a class B controlled drug and causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Badrul Hussain, 34, of Drybeck Court, has been charged with rape of a female aged under 16; supply of mephadrone; permit the use of a premises to supply drugs and causing or inciting prostitution for gain.

- Abdul Sabe, 37, of Dean House, Newcastle has been charged with possession of cannabis; trafficking within the UK for sexual exploitation; non-penatrative sexual activity with a girl 13 to 15; supply or offer to supply cannabis; sexual assault by touching a female 13 or over and administering a substance with intent.

- Karzan Mohammed, 23, of Graingerville South, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female under 16; falsely imprison/detain another; supply or offer to supply cannabis; assault occasioning actual bodily harm; administering a substance with intent; rape of a female aged 16 or over and trafficking within the UK for sexual exploitation.

- Saiful Islam, 32, of Strathmore Crescent, Newcastle has been charged with rape of a female aged under 16 and supply or offer to supply cannabis.

- Nashir Uddin, 33, of Joan Street, Newcastle has been charged with supply or offer to supply a class A controlled drug; supply of mephadrone; permit the use of premises for supply of drugs; rape of a female under 16; causing or inciting prostitution for gain; failing to surrender to custody/respond to bail.

- A 34-year-old man, from Newcastle, has received a summons in relation to a sexual assault and administering a substance with intent.

From end of the road...

they are just using the gangs for their anti-muslim, anti-immigration, anti-multi-culturalism agenda is all.

what constant accusations of racism and Islamaphobia

Check question in second quote against accusations in first. And what do you say about these latest revelations end of the road ?

DeadHand

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

Another grooming gang charged. This is insane.



http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/northumbria-police-charged-20-people-8587632

Insane indeed.

What the hell is happening in England?

This is massive. Why isn't it in the mainstream media?

end of the road

obplayer wrote: »

From end of the road...





Check question in second quote against accusations in first. And what do you say about these latest revelations end of the road ?

the police catch vermin for raping and grooming children. good. the backgrounds of such vermin are irrelevant to me.

nokia69

end of the road wrote: »

the police catch vermin for raping and grooming children. good. the backgrounds of such vermin are irrelevant to me.

so you can't see a pattern at all

or would that be islamophobia

to continue being PC means you have to ignore all evidence to the bitter end

conorhal

end of the road wrote: »

the police catch vermin for raping and grooming children. good. the backgrounds of such vermin are irrelevant to me.

Irrelevant to you perhaps, but not to an effective police investigation. Imagine targeting organized crime by addressing only each individual crime and refusing to recognise that the perpetrators were part of a mafia outfit? How effective do you imagine that would be?

end of the road

nokia69 wrote: »

so you can't see a pattern at all

or would that be islamophobia

to continue being PC means you have to ignore all evidence to the bitter end

no pc from me. as i've said before it doesn't exist. nothing to do with islamophobia. i'm none of that nonsense, bigoted racist or anything

nokia69 wrote: »

so you can't see a pattern at all

or would that be islamophobia

to continue being PC means you have to ignore all evidence to the bitter end

no pc from me. as i've said before it doesn't exist. nothing to do with islamophobia. islamophobic, bigoted, or racist is something i'm not so i've nothing to worry about