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Rotherham victim says abusers are 'untouchable'

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    you should see the gullability of UKIP supporters though, its on a whole new level.


    Yes. Speaking of gullible, it's great to see nu-Labour mobilising the troops and their MP to tackle the real issue facing Rotherham right now. Nigel-f*cking-Farage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    thats what happens when a party tells the gullible what they want to hear. UKIP won't be delivering anything. all they are is failed thatcherite tories outed or who don't want to be part of the all be it imperfect modernized tory party who have recognized they need to move with the times even though they aren't exactly anything to shout about still. you should see the gullability of UKIP supporters though, its on a whole new level.


    hey,Ephialtes, do you ever stop spouting sh1te?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭reprise


    thats what happens when a party tells the gullible what they want to hear. UKIP won't be delivering anything. all they are is failed thatcherite tories outed or who don't want to be part of the all be it imperfect modernized tory party who have recognized they need to move with the times even though they aren't exactly anything to shout about still. you should see the gullability of UKIP supporters though, its on a whole new level.

    As a proud Sinn Fein supporter, what have you to say about these allegations:
    This afternoon, Fine Gael TD for Meath East Regina Doherty told the Dáil she has knowledge of eight male abusers who were facilitated by Sinn Féin in moving to the Republic.

    Ms Doherty said she was too afraid to name them today but has made an appointment in her local garda station for Friday morning to hand over the information.

    She said she was dizzy from the amount of changes in Mr Adams' story about an IRA investigation being carried out into the allegations made by Ms Cahill.

    Ms Doherty asked Mr Adams about an investigation carried out which identified 100 victims of sexual and physical abuse.

    She asked Mr Adams why a senior Sinn Féin press person was told to prepare a press strategy in case that information was leaked.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1112/658798-mairia-cahill/


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    The SWP facilitated sexual abuse too - http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/mar/09/socialist-workers-party-rape-kangaroo-court

    Judging by some of the comments on here, it's easy to see how.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    Nodin wrote: »
    You mean British citizens of Pakistani origin? Who targeted young girls based on their vulnerability more than race.

    No, as I do believe far right marches through the town were the subject at hand.

    So....
    The Girls were not targeted because they were White,they were targeted because they were "vunerable" and "vunerability" is a White condition,because Brown Girls are from more conservative families?

    O Nodin,don't ever change:)

    I guess this also slays the myth of White Privilage in that case..eh?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭reprise


    The SWP facilitated child abuse too - http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/mar/09/socialist-workers-party-rape-kangaroo-court

    Judging by some of the comments on here, it's easy to see how.

    It takes a truly sick mind to think that "racism" trumps paedophilia and child rape.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    I don't give two f*cks what he thinks about Irish people. ...............

    O that's nice to know. Whats wrong? are we the wrong kind of white person?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Nodin wrote: »
    O that's nice to know. Whats wrong? are we the wrong kind of white person?

    There are people out there that don't like Irish people. I don't really give a f*ck. I'm sure I'll survive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    There are people out there that don't like Irish people. I don't really give a f*ck. I'm sure I'll survive.


    Of course you don't care. Presumably if they hate what you hate as much as you do, all is forgivable. So what if they think we're "pig eyed micks".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    crockholm wrote: »
    So....
    The Girls were not targeted because they were White,they were targeted because they were "vunerable" and "vunerability" is a White condition,because Brown Girls are from more conservative families?

    ....no. Don't let the facts stop you from making up things though. Jaysus knows it doesn't hold anyone else back.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....no. Don't let the facts stop you from making up things though. Jaysus knows it doesn't hold anyone else back.
    Tell me about it;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Nodin wrote: »
    Of course you don't care. Presumably if they hate what you hate as much as you do, all is forgivable. So what if they think we're "pig eyed micks".

    Perhaps he met you and that sullied his opinion of Irish folk? I don't know. I don't care. Champion deleted her tweet and that is the only remnant of it. Whatever else that person tweets is none of my business nor concern. If his postings about Irish people irk you so much, start a thread on it. You will excuse me if I don't partake.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Perhaps he met you and that sullied his opinion of Irish folk? I don't know. I don't care. Champion deleted her tweet and that is the only remnant of it. Whatever else that person tweets is none of my business nor concern. ............

    God no. If he has it in for the Brown lads he must be ok, and a reliable source of information.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Nodin wrote: »
    , and a reliable source of information.

    He retweeted her tweet before she deleted it. You seem more interested in this anonymous tulip than the grooming gangs operating in Rotherham, the cover up and the hypocrisy of Champion.

    It's most odd.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....no. Don't let the facts stop you from making up things though. Jaysus knows it doesn't hold anyone else back.

    Making things up? Like saying that there is no evidence that the grooming gangs targeted non muslims or that there are very few disadvantaged muslim girls due to the conservative nature of their upbringing.

    I'm beginning to realise as to why it is that you very rarely offer up your own opinions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....no. Don't let the facts stop you from making up things though. Jaysus knows it doesn't hold anyone else back.

    Exactly what facts did he make up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Making things up? Like saying that there is no evidence that the grooming gangs targeted non muslims .

    Did I say that?
    or that there are very few disadvantaged muslim girls due to the conservative nature of their upbringing..

    Did I say that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    Nodin wrote: »
    Did I say that?

    So is there no evidence that the grooming gangs targeted non muslims?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    So is there no evidence that the grooming gangs targeted non muslims?

    As I never said that, I'm none too sure what you're on about.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....no. Don't let the facts stop you from making up things though. Jaysus knows it doesn't hold anyone else back.

    The facts as in all the men involved were of Asian origin and all the girls were white? Yet you claim there is no racial element involved. Come off it ffs. Your an atheist are u not, look at the evidence! It's right there in an independent report.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,510 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    What a sad place we live in where child rapists are allowed to continue on their acts simply because we don't want to offend them.

    A rapist is a rapist, whether they be white, brown, black, Chinese, Indian, Pakistani .....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    crockholm wrote: »
    So....
    The Girls were not targeted because they were White,they were targeted because they were "vunerable" and "vunerability" is a White condition,because Brown Girls are from more conservative families?

    O Nodin,don't ever change:)

    I guess this also slays the myth of White Privilage in that case..eh?

    Yes that is a classic. The same rebuttal is taken when you talk about the illegality of homosexuality in most of the Arab and Muslim world.

    Of course it has nothing at all to do with their sharia law or the Koran or even Islam it's because they are just 'conservative'.

    Ireland was quite the conservative country too once, yet don't think we killed 3000 people for being gay over a 40 year period like Iran.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Nodin wrote: »
    Presumably if they hate what you hate as much as you do, all is forgivable.

    So highlighting and discussing child rape is now "hatred"? Or is it that you've been so comprehensively schooled on the rare occasions you actually have contributed something concrete that you've been reduced to that last resort of the defeated- Racism accusations.

    It's a fairly serious accusation to make against the OP, who starts interesting threads on a range of topics. Unlike you. All you contribute is nitpicking, smug remarks, whatboutery and personal insults like that.

    You brought me up (wrongly) earlier in the thread for generalisation of Muslims, yet are happy to generalise any of the people in Rotherham who protested against the rape and torture of their children and the cover up of that rape and torture as xenophobes, bigots and knuckledraggers. You're happy to generalise UKIP supporters as the same.

    This on top of suggesting white girls are inherently more vulnerable to rape than Muslim girls on account of the conservative upbringing of the latter.

    It's attitudes like this at an official level that allowed this child rape and allows it to continue. It's attitudes like this within most of the media that ensures what is a massive issue is downgraded and sidelined.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    jank wrote: »
    Yes that is a classic. The same rebuttal is taken when you talk about the illegality of homosexuality in most of the Arab and Muslim world.

    Of course it has nothing at all to do with their sharia law or the Koran or even Islam it's because they are just 'conservative'.

    Ireland was quite the conservative country too once, yet don't think we killed 3000 people for being gay over a 40 year period like Iran.

    The most repressive, murderous, violent, intolerant, homophobic, misogynistic, racist, sectarian, minority-hating states, organisations, communities and cultures of the world today have one thing in common... Islam.

    No other ideology can compete. Atheism/Communism can only reply with North Korea and FARC. Fascism has nothing. Christianity, unless we are to jump in a time machine, can only reply with some obscure militias in Africa, who are embroiled in mostly ethnic conflicts anyway. Secularist dictators are being felled by the rising tide of Islamism and being replaced with something so much more expansionist and evil. This has happened with the support of useful fools in the West. "Arab Spring" indeed. "Spring" for everyone except those who happened to be a non-Arab, Arab of the wrong creed, a homosexual or a woman.

    The one country in the Islamic mess that is the Middle East where it is safe to be an open homosexual and bearable to be a woman? Israel. Yet the only country in that ruined region that is regularly subjected to the venom of the Irish and European Left including, hilariously, it's large female and LGBT elements? Israel.

    Disastrous, immoral Western intervention in the region fed this fire. Yes, the Israeli military behaves brutally (as I would were I surrounded by neighbours whose stated ambition was to destroy me and my people completely).

    Point still stands, something is deeply rotten at the heart of Islam that it allows for such murderous interpretations and inspires such evil all over the world today. Something is deeply rotten at the heart of Leftist politics in Europe that it not only turns a willful blind eye to to this danger but seeks to vilify and silence those who refuse to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,073 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    jank wrote: »
    Yes that is a classic. The same rebuttal is taken when you talk about the illegality of homosexuality in most of the Arab and Muslim world.

    Of course it has nothing at all to do with their sharia law or the Koran or even Islam it's because they are just 'conservative'.

    Ireland was quite the conservative country too once, yet don't think we killed 3000 people for being gay over a 40 year period like Iran.
    no but we once allowed a situation where unmarried women were sent to homes to be abused beaten and treated like **** and as slaves, and if they were pregnant the children stolen and sold off or addopted, some of those women dying either by suicide or god knows what. that all went on for years.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,073 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    DeadHand wrote: »
    So highlighting and discussing child rape is now "hatred"? Or is it that you've been so comprehensively schooled on the rare occasions you actually have contributed something concrete that you've been reduced to that last resort of the defeated- Racism accusations.

    It's a fairly serious accusation to make against the OP, who starts interesting threads on a range of topics. Unlike you. All you contribute is nitpicking, smug remarks, whatboutery and personal insults like that.

    You brought me up (wrongly) earlier in the thread for generalisation of Muslims, yet are happy to generalise any of the people in Rotherham who protested against the rape and torture of their children and the cover up of that rape and torture as xenophobes, bigots and knuckledraggers. You're happy to generalise UKIP supporters as the same.

    This on top of suggesting white girls are inherently more vulnerable to rape than Muslim girls on account of the conservative upbringing of the latter.

    It's attitudes like this at an official level that allowed this child rape and allows it to continue. It's attitudes like this within most of the media that ensures what is a massive issue is downgraded and sidelined.
    and its people like you and others who use children to further your anti-immigration agenda. disgusting

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,073 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    DeadHand wrote: »
    Christianity, unless we are to jump in a time machine, can only reply with some obscure militias in Africa, who are embroiled in mostly ethnic conflicts anyway.

    some of the loonie cults in america. and of course ireland with the magdilin laundries and other institutions, which all be it are all gone, they within living memory.

    DeadHand wrote: »
    The one country in the Islamic mess that is the Middle East where it is safe to be an open homosexual and bearable to be a woman? Israel.

    yeah. only if your of the right stock though.

    DeadHand wrote: »
    Yet the only country in that ruined region that is regularly subjected to the venom of the Irish and European Left including, hilariously, it's large female and LGBT elements? Israel.

    yeah, because it behaves exactly the same as isis. slaughtering and raping and stealing land. and more people are slowly waking up and beginning to see this wannabe calefat for what it is and has always been. i don't see whats funny about being female or LGBT or how that has anything to do with anything to do with the wannabe jewish calefat

    DeadHand wrote: »
    Yes, the Israeli military behaves brutally (as I would were I surrounded by neighbours whose stated ambition was to destroy me and my people completely).

    so hamas are right then as that is israels aim against the palestinians. to destroy them and eradicate them and take over their land to create a jewish calefat.

    DeadHand wrote: »
    Point still stands, something is deeply rotten at the heart of Islam that it allows for such murderous interpretations and inspires such evil all over the world today.

    yeah, they are called religious extremists. every religion has them

    DeadHand wrote: »
    Something is deeply rotten at the heart of Leftist politics in Europe that it not
    only turns a willful blind eye to to this danger but seeks to vilify and silence those who refuse to.

    rubbish. nobody is being silenced or vilified. only the bigots feel they are being silenced and vilified because their nonsense no longer goes unchallenged and people see through them and their use of various things for their anti-non white agenda including their pretending to care about certain issues.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 194 ✭✭GalwayGuitar


    I have to say the progressive liberals are being badly beaten in this one. Some serious clutching at the straws going on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    End of the road has got to be a parody account. A dedicated one at that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    and its people like you and others who use children to further your anti-immigration agenda. disgusting

    and its people like you who ignore the rape of children to further your pro-immigration agenda. disgusting


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