Raw Thread 02/02/2015

Rock Lesnar

Moneymaker wrote: »

Either way, it's smart by WWE, creating an element of doubt and hooking us all along

Really, i dont doubt for a second that Reigns wont win it, i said here a while a go and i stick to it, no matter how good we all know bryan is or what we think he deserves, WWE dont think the same, they were forced into pushing him last year due to the crowd reaction, i dont believe they'll go down that road again anytime soon.

Lord TSC

Interesting Raw.

Having Trips take shots at the Universe and then offer them the possibility of Byran in the Mania main event was a curious case of WWE being snotty but at least recognising what fans want. Right, Bryan has his shot now, but either he has to win or they have to turn Reigns. If they have Reigns win, and then try and bull on as a face, the crowd will **** on him even more.

Bryan vs Rollins was fantastic.

Liked Bray's promo too.

FutureGuy

I think Reigns will beat Bryan at Fastlane but Sheamus will be involved in some capacity. That'll set up Bryan vs heel Sheamus (who will get a ton of heat) at WM while Roman can then take on Lesnar.

Eg...

Back and forth 15 minute match between Bryan and Reigns. Out come the Authority who come down to the ring and circle around ringside. Both wrestlers are annoyed by their impending interferance.

Cue Sheamus music who clears out the Authority! Yay!!! Go Sheamus.

Match comes to a boil, Sheamus interferes with a trip (or whatever) allowing an oblivious Reigns to pick up the win. Boo Sheamus!

Smug b@stard Sheamus stays at ringside while Reigns heads up the ramp. Sheamus beats down on Daniel, Reigns eventually makes the save.

Sheamus spends a month talking about how he beat Daniel in X seconds and Daniel gets a chance to wipe that slate clean.

Vince, if you are reading this, please PM me thanks! We can work something out!

WinnyThePoo

If Reigns wants to look like he could beat Lesnar. Interference of any sort won't do him any favours.

Stereomaniac

This is too little too late for me. The Royal Rumble stipulation should have WrestleMania cast solid.

The Ayatolla

It's been done before, like when the Rock won it but t's getting a bit ridiculous at this stage.

Mr. Guappa

The plethora of poll options is highly annoying when trying to read this thread on the touch site.

rovert

Loughc wrote: »

So Bryan is being used to pacify the audience until Fast Lane, where Bryan will lose and Regins goes on to win at Wrestlemania anyway.

I imagine Reigns will win a hard fought match and at the end they'll have Bryan raise Reigns hand in victory hoping that'll give Reigns enough of a rub to plant himself firmly as the top face.

Yep... ground breaking stuff WWE.... ground breaking.... :rolleyes:

Yup. Between Raw and the Austin Podcast they seem in love with manipulating fans/the internet than maybe whats best for business.

Moneymaker

The Rumble has been so watered down in recent years.

Really, the last time it meant something was 2007 imo.

The Rumble winner has lost or even more absurd, opened WM a lot in recent years.

I don't really care if they change the main event. No one wants to see Reigns vs Lesnar.

Lithium93_

Was browsing Reddit's Squared Circle earlier and found this. The match that could've been at Wrestlemania 31.
We can still hope right???

ERG89

rovert wrote: »

Far from impressed by Triple H.

A lot of yada, yada, yada in it not a lot of interesting statements. Austin wasn`t exactly great he`d ask an interesting question but would allow HHH to trail off topic.
The Rumble has taken a hit the last week given away for free & then the result changed because of the Rock helping Reigns despite Kane & Big Show already being eliminated....makes more sense to do Rusev vs. Reigns as Bryan was eliminated early

Blatter

ERG89 wrote: »

A lot of yada, yada, yada in it not a lot of interesting statements. Austin wasn`t exactly great he`d ask an interesting question but would allow HHH to trail off topic.
The Rumble has taken a hit the last week given away for free & then the result changed because of the Rock helping Reigns despite Kane & Big Show already being eliminated....makes more sense to do Rusev vs. Reigns as Bryan was eliminated early

Yeah, I'm sure Stone Cold enjoys the exposure his podcast is getting from the WWE. He wouldn't want to upset the apple cart and scupper future opportunities so while he'll ask some good questions, it's hard to expect him to press on the more uncomfortable ones.

Ageyev

Moneymaker wrote: »

The Rumble has been so watered down in recent years.

Really, the last time it meant something was 2007 imo.

The Rumble winner has lost or even more absurd, opened WM a lot in recent years.

I don't really care if they change the main event. No one wants to see Reigns vs Lesnar.

Agree with the point you're making and I think I've posted similar recently but fwiw CenaWinsLol was the 2013 winner and headlined Mania that year with Rock.

This is particularly silly though nullifying the winner basically the first Raw since (in front of a live crowd anyway). WWE basically killing their number 1 gimmick match.

Nody

Moneymaker wrote: »

The Rumble has been so watered down in recent years.

Really, the last time it meant something was 2007 imo.

The Rumble winner has lost or even more absurd, opened WM a lot in recent years.

I don't really care if they change the main event. No one wants to see Reigns vs Lesnar.

Vince disagrees.

The Strawman Argument

Regardless of crowd reaction and so on, this is definitely an interesting setup for me. If Reigns isn't capable of having a good match with Bryan, it's fairly safe to say he won't be able to have a good one with just about anyone for a very long time if ever.

briany

The Strawman Argument wrote: »

Regardless of crowd reaction and so on, this is definitely an interesting setup for me. If Reigns isn't capable of having a good match with Bryan, it's fairly safe to say he won't be able to have a good one with just about anyone for a very long time if ever.

Are we saying that Reigns will be auditioning for the WM gig in this Fast Lane PPV?

rossie1977

think i covered everything

1993, yoko won rumble, won title in mainevent but still didn't leave show with belt due to hogan getting impromptu match and beating yoko for title

1995, shawn wins rumble doesn't mainevent wrestlemania

1997, austin wins rumble but undertaker becomes number one contender at next ppv and mainevents mania

1999, vince wins rumble but austin becomes number one contender next night on raw and successfully defends that right by winning at the next ppv against vince

2000, rock wins rumble but loses his wrestlemania shot the following month at no way out to big show. he wins back the opportunity on raw. eventually big show is added to the wrestlemania main event along with mick foley.

2002, hhh wins rumble but loses his mania opportunity at no way out to kurt angle. hhh wins it back next night on raw

2004, benoit wins rumble but shawn michaels superkicks benoit and writes his own name on the contract thus making it a 3-way at mania 20.

2006, mysterio wins rumble, doesn't mainevent wrestlemania

2008, cena wins rumble but he can't wait to get his hands on orton so he cashes in his opportunity at nwo only to fail. cena ended up still getting another title shot at mania 24 anyway, as did hhh

2010, edge wins rumble but doesn't mainevent wrestlemania

2011, del rio wins rumble and opens wrestlemania

2012, sheamus wins rumble and opens wrestlemania

2014, batista wins rumble but eventually a match is made between bryan and hhh..the winner going on to become part of 3-way title match at mania 30.

Agent Coulson

I must say I was shaken to the core with the ground breaking news last night.

I still can't believe it the WWE Universe has been changed forever!!

The Strawman Argument

briany wrote: »

Are we saying that Reigns will be auditioning for the WM gig in this Fast Lane PPV?

I don't think so, it'll just be a good opportunity to see what he's able to do in a singles match.

gerrybbadd

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I must say I was shaken to the core with the ground breaking news last night.

I still can't believe it the WWE Universe has been changed forever!!

Bah GAWD, that man has a family!

ERG89

rossie1977 wrote: »

think i covered everything

1993, yoko won rumble, won title in mainevent but still didn't leave show with belt due to hogan getting impromptu match and beating yoko for title

1995, shawn wins rumble doesn't mainevent wrestlemania

1997, austin wins rumble but undertaker becomes number one contender at next ppv and mainevents mania

1999, vince wins rumble but austin becomes number one contender next night on raw and successfully defends that right by winning at the next ppv against vince

2000, rock wins rumble but loses his wrestlemania shot the following month at no way out to big show. he wins back the opportunity on raw. eventually big show is added to the wrestlemania main event along with mick foley.

2002, hhh wins rumble but loses his mania opportunity at no way out to kurt angle. hhh wins it back next night on raw

2004, benoit wins rumble but shawn michaels superkicks benoit and writes his own name on the contract thus making it a 3-way at mania 20.

2006, mysterio wins rumble, doesn't mainevent wrestlemania

2008, cena wins rumble but he can't wait to get his hands on orton so he cashes in his opportunity at nwo only to fail. cena ended up still getting another title shot at mania 24 anyway, as did hhh

2010, edge wins rumble but doesn't mainevent wrestlemania

2011, del rio wins rumble and opens wrestlemania

2012, sheamus wins rumble and opens wrestlemania

2014, batista wins rumble but eventually a match is made between bryan and hhh..the winner going on to become part of 3-way title match at mania 30.

1994 Luger/Hart eliminated each other & both had title matches on the night of WM X

Ascii

To me Bryan v lesnar is a crap lineup for WM. Really so far one sided its beyond belief. Think RR deserves a crack at Lesnar and it may make for a decent match.

Is there anything to say that Rollins cant cash in the money in the bank at WM? My thinking is that Roman will win but when he is celebrating Rollins will enter and cash in the contract to steal the title.

Overall its gone to s**t lately. The whole authority storyline, combining the heavy weight title and WWE title into one is poor. We had broc who has held it for prob 9 months and has only fought twice at two PPV events.

They have even moved Experience from Sky 1 on sunday morning and replaced it with excerpts of talking from RAW. Last sunday morning not one fight was to be had over the whole hour.

Vince...your a kn*b

JP Liz V1

Rollins has the mitb contract but still wants to be in world title match at Mania

Agent Coulson

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Rollins has the mitb contract but still wants to be in world title match at Mania

The perfect slimy heel thing to want

rovert

The Chyna thing is something that will follow Triple H around given how strong of a presense online feminism is these days:

https://twitter.com/cagesideseats/status/562643170543280128

Lithium93_

Cue online feminists and SJW's targeting Triple H.

rovert

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Cue online feminists and SJW's targeting Triple H.

He didn't declare his CIS privilege. :mad: I am all for treating people equally but I really dislike the gotcha-ism online.

Triple H and WWE really can't win. They inducted a convicted rapist in Mike Tyson. An alledged murder in Jimmy Snuka. Lana spent most of her adult life in the nip seemingly. They can't induct Sean Waltman as he did porn too. As well as a million other talking points.

Ageyev

rossie1977 wrote: »

think i covered everything

...

Since you typed that up thought I would add that the first Royal Rumble match took place in October 1987. The winner was to get a title shot with Hogan the following month; One Man Gang won it however, they had announced in the arena prior to the Rumble match that Gang vs Hogan would take place the following month. Finish was the double elimination after 12 minutes.

There were also few other Rumbles on house shows and TV

Blatter

rovert wrote: »

He didn't declare his CIS privilege. :mad: I am all for treating people equally but I really dislike the gotcha-ism online.

Triple H and WWE really can't win. They inducted a convicted rapist in Mike Tyson. An alledged murder in Jimmy Snuka. Lana spent most of her adult life in the nip seemingly. They can't induct Sean Waltman as he did porn too. As well as a million other talking points.

Not forgetting that the man he was being interviewed by last night was inducted despite being convicted of domestic abuse!

Angron

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Rollins has the mitb contract but still wants to be in world title match at Mania

He wants to be the first man to cash in... On himself.