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    #5552
    fin12
    Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    CollyFlower wrote: »
    Isn't he the owner? Can't get the owner fired.

    ok well report him to the guards or revenue when you get the evidence on him.


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    #5553
    Lisha
    Registered Users Posts: 8,693 ✭✭✭Lisha


    fin12 wrote: »
    ok well report him to the guards or revenue when you get the evidence on him.

    She must investigate to get the evidence....... Ffs it's fair city nothing should be logical or make any sense at all


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    #5554
    CollyFlower
    Registered Users Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    Hitchens wrote: »
    'Tommy the Ram' and the manager of the 'Hotel Sans Guests' reminds one of Lanigan's Ball, when one of them steps out (of the room) the other steps in again :p


    They've more staff than guests in there.


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    #5555
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    fin12 wrote: »
    Why would she deserve to be fired? I think she is doing what any normal person would do if you have a prick of a boss who is harassing you and realize that he is up to something dodgy why wouldn't you try to get evidence to back that up so you could report him and get him fired.

    are you for real. she has no right to be rooting around. if she has suspicions alert the police. Her suspicion was borne out of the hotel owner handing an envelope to a man. She has no access to the money or accounts. Its obvious we know where the story is going and ultimately he is a criminal but she has no right to be rooting around as she is a glorified cleaner merely. Its absurd what she is doing.

    the harassment claim is completely separate and their ix a formal process to deal with that. It doesnt give her any right to do what she is doing in the real world.


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    #5556
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    fin12 wrote: »
    ok well report him to the guards or revenue when you get the evidence on him.

    exactly. which isnt what you said originally.


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    #5557
    fin12
    Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    are you for real. she has no right to be rooting around. if she has suspicions alert the police. Her suspicion was borne out of the hotel owner handing an envelope to a man. She has no access to the money or accounts. Its obvious we know where the story is going and ultimately he is a criminal but she has no right to be rooting around as she is a glorified cleaner merely. Its absurd what she is doing.

    the harassment claim is completely separate and their ix a formal process to deal with that. It doesnt give her any right to do what she is doing in the real world.

    Ya I am for real. so she's supposed to report him to the guards without out any actual evidence??? what would be the point of that so ya she has to root around to get the evidence.


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    #5558
    fin12
    Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    exactly. which isnt what you said originally.

    ya i didn't say who she should report him to. I forgot that he was the owner but she still needs to get hard evidence on him before she can report him.


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    #5559
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    fin12 wrote: »
    Ya I am for real. so she's supposed to report him to the guards without out any actual evidence??? what would be the point of that so ya she has to root around to get the evidence.

    she has absolutely no right to be rooting around files etc?????? of course she doesnt!


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    #5560
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    its a complete invasion of privacy


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    #5561
    CollyFlower
    Registered Users Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    exactly. which isnt what you said originally.

    Well, it is kinda what Fin said. .. Quote: fin12
    "ok well report him to the guards or revenue when
    you get the evidence on him."

    Debbie would have to get the evidence by snooping.


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    #5562
    Flippyfloppy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    are you for real. she has no right to be rooting around. if she has suspicions alert the police. Her suspicion was borne out of the hotel owner handing an envelope to a man. She has no access to the money or accounts. Its obvious we know where the story is going and ultimately he is a criminal but she has no right to be rooting around as she is a glorified cleaner merely. Its absurd what she is doing.

    the harassment claim is completely separate and their ix a formal process to deal with that. It doesnt give her any right to do what she is doing in the real world.

    Oh come on, so if she has suspicions alert the police. About what? She clearly needs something to get the polices' attention. Oh wait, she's a mere 'glorified cleaner' Come off it with the snobbery!


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    #5563
    CollyFlower
    Registered Users Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    its a complete invasion of privacy

    It's a job for Nina.


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    #5564
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Flippyfloppy wrote: »
    Oh come on, so if she has suspicions alert the police. About what? She clearly needs something to get the polices' attention. Oh wait, she's a mere 'glorified cleaner' Come off it with the snobbery!

    its not snobbery. its her job description. she is the head of housekeeping. Therefore under her contract she is restricted by the fact she cannot access certain things. What she is doing isnt illegal at this juncture of course but an employer would be well within his rights to discipline her for her actions. A hotel like that would have a HR dept or certainly a superior to report any employment concerns to.


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    #5565
    CollyFlower
    Registered Users Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    its not snobbery. its her job description. she is the head of housekeeping. Therefore under her contract she is restricted by the fact she cannot access certain things. What she is doing isnt illegal at this juncture of course but an employer would be well within his rights to discipline her for her actions. A hotel like that would have a HR dept or certainly a superior to report any employment concerns to.

    You said, "she's a "glorified housekeeper" , that's not her job description.


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    #5566
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Anyway lets leave it there. Im not sticking up for her employer im just saying in general snooping by employees into records their job restricts their access to gives an employer legitimate reason to approach them.


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    #5567
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    CollyFlower wrote: »
    You said, "she's a "glorified housekeeper" , that's not her job description.

    christ sake. its a tv character. its a forum wheue we slag every character everday. it was just a turn of phrase.

    & i said "glorified cleaner" Which is her job. She cleans the hotel. She got a slight promotion to housekeeping supervisor where she supervises the other cleaners but she still cleans herself.


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    #5568
    CollyFlower
    Registered Users Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    christ sake. its a tv character. its a forum wheue we slag every character everday. it was just a turn of phrase.

    Your snobbery shines through... :)


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    #5569
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    CollyFlower wrote: »
    Your snobbery shines through... :)

    how. Please elaborate. What would you describe her job as? And why are you offended by me calling her a cleaner. I dont know why you are having a go at me. Please block my messages if you want to choose to be offended . You too Fin12.
    Problem solved. Ill do likewise. Take care.


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    #5570
    CollyFlower
    Registered Users Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    how. Please elaborate. What would you describe her job as? And why are you offended by me calling her a cleaner. I dont know why you are having a go at me. Please block my messages if you want to choose to be offended . You too Fin12.
    Problem solved. Ill do likewise. Take care.

    The fact that you used the phrase "glorified cleaner" only someone who looks down on others would say something like that.... I'm not going to block you, I enjoy your posts.


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    #5571
    Patrick Wheelock
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 138 ✭✭Patrick Wheelock


    FFS - I thought Fair City wasn't on 'cause it's a bank holiday weekend so I didn't tune in.

    I wish RTE would be consistent.


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    #5572
    sligojoek
    Registered Users Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    Patrick Wheelock wrote: »
    FFS - I thought Fair City wasn't on 'cause it's a bank holiday weekend so I didn't tune in.

    I wish RTE would be consistent.
    They're probably making up for the dropped episode when the Ireland v Germany match was on.


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    #5573
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    CollyFlower wrote: »
    The fact that you used the phrase "glorified cleaner" only someone who looks down on others would say something like that.... I'm not going to block you, I enjoy your posts.

    no it doesnt. because i dont. glorified isnt an insult. it merely means what it means. Perhaps read the context of the post. I called her just a cleaner in the manner that is her job and that job does not give her the right to root around the reception st management files. It was you who got offended by me calling her by her job description,a cleaner. It is not possible to degrade someone by saying exactly what they do. And then you try to tell me what i was saying and that i was insulting someone with that job title when i was clearly just pointing oyt the limits of their jobs (in general).All jobs have their own limitations.

    I dont like being called a snob and its a whole lot more insulting than referring to someone by their profession.


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    #5574
    CollyFlower
    Registered Users Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    no it doesnt. because i dont. glorified isnt an insult. it merely means what it means. Perhaps read the context of the post. I called her just a cleaner in the manner that is her job and that job does not give her the right to root around the reception st management files. It was you who got offended by me calling her by her job description,a cleaner. It is not possible to degrade someone by saying exactly what they do. And then you try to tell me what i was saying and that i was insulting someone with that job title when i was clearly just pointing oyt the limits of their jobs (in general).All jobs have their own limitations.

    I dont like being called a snob and its a whole lot more insulting than referring to someone by their profession.

    No, you called her a "glorified cleaner" Regardless of their job description, I agree with you no one should be snooping into other people's business without a warrant!


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    #5575
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    CollyFlower wrote: »
    No, you called her a "glorified cleaner" Regardless of their job description, I agree with you no one should be snooping into other people's business without a warrant!

    glorified means referring to someone by a title which may appear to elevate them but is essentially the same thing. It is not an insult. Not in the context or intention I used it. Her job title is housekeeper, but she is essentially a cleaner. I know what i said and what i meant. it was me who wrote it. Not you. So calling me a snob on a public forum is extremely unfair and unfounded. I am the complete opposite. I have tackled postets for insulting actors on here based on their accents for example. Perhaps you should concentrate on posters like that.


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    #5576
    CollyFlower
    Registered Users Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    glorified means referring to someone by a title which may appear to elevate them but is essentially the same thing. It is not an insult. Not in the context or intention I used it. Her job title is housekeeper, but she is essentially a cleaner. I know what i said and what i meant. it was me who wrote it. Not you. So calling me a snob on a public forum is extremely unfair and unfounded. I am the complete opposite. I have tackled postets for insulting actors on here based on their accents for example. Perhaps you should concentrate on posters like that.

    Oh, shut off and go to bed.


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    #5577
    pl4ichjgy17zwd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭pl4ichjgy17zwd


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    It was you who got offended by me calling her by her job description,a cleaner. It is not possible to degrade someone by saying exactly what they do.

    She's the head of housekeeping though. It's a managerial position.


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    #5578
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    CollyFlower wrote: »
    Oh, shut off and go to bed.

    thanks for that response.


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=55826293


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    #5579
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Amir Rapping Pug wrote: »
    She's the head of housekeeping though. It's a managerial position.

    yes she manages the cleaners. she has no authority to rummage through files and accounts though. lIts not a complex point im making and if people think that she has that is their perogative. But no need to insult me for mine.


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    #5580
    CollyFlower
    Registered Users Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    thanks for that response.


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=55826293


    You're welcome.
    What's the link for?


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    #5581
    pl4ichjgy17zwd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭pl4ichjgy17zwd


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    yes she manages the cleaners. she has no authority to rummage through files and accounts though. lIts not a complex point im making and if people think that she has that is their perogative. But no need to insult me for mine.

    I didn't insult anyone, and I'm not interested in getting involved in an argument on whether she has a right to snoop or not.

    Just pointing out she's not a cleaner, glorified or otherwise.


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