Are there any dedicated P.E. Teachers in Irish Schools?

Turtyturd

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

Did any of you do the bleep tests when you returned after your summer holidays? Serious craic, that.

Yep...about 5 or 6 would drop out at every bleep to get to the football quicker.

pickarooney

There were no PE teachers and no PE classes in my secondary school.

RayM

Bobblehead Panda wrote: »

That's a pity. My school had fantastic PE teachers. We were lucky that they timetabled a few teachers at a time to teach PE when we were in 6th year (and possibly in other years, I can't remember) so that they could offer a few different sports at a time. I'm not sporty at all but I have fond memories of PE.

My school had no sports facilities, and the PE teacher was useless, so it was either football on a tarmac yard or indoor football in an undersized hall (with a leather football, which provided a great opportunity to injure people). From around fifth year onwards, I stopped turning up.

Andy From Sligo

nothing like a good cross country run in a P.E. lesson in the Snow and freezing cold in shorts and tee as we had to do - you had to run if you wanted to keep warm and not die of hypothermia. mind you I did opt for Cross country instead of Rugby

shruikan2553

I know we had 1 teacher who taught PE and CSPE so I would assume she most have been qualified in some form. Probably did a 2 week course in handing a class a football though by the quality of it.

evolving_doors

Maybe the local GAA could pay for one ...or... the drinks industry! They've taken enough money from sport already.

Andy From Sligo

god there could be some budding next generation footballers or rugby players or runners if the kids were getting some proper PE lessons in school these days. Hearing one of the teachers on OT yesterday it sounded like she was saying that the other lessons on their curriculum was more important than PE and that there was no time to fit in PE lessons - thats terrible.. i dunno cut out religious studies or some other pointless class then and introduce proper PE classes!

rainbowtrout

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

god there could be some budding next generation footballers or rugby players or runners if the kids were getting some proper PE lessons in school these days. Hearing one of the teachers on OT yesterday it sounded like she was saying that the other lessons on their curriculum was more important than PE and that there was no time to fit in PE lessons - thats terrible.. i dunno cut out religious studies or some other pointless class then and introduce proper PE classes!

That was one teacher. It doesn't mean the whole country is the same

Andy From Sligo

rainbowtrout wrote: »

That was one teacher. It doesn't mean the whole country is the same

true that, but id like to see a documentary on TV (even if there is some undercover footage) of how many schools in Ireland participate in regular PE lessons and how good they are

Lau2976

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

god there could be some budding next generation footballers or rugby players or runners if the kids were getting some proper PE lessons in school these days. Hearing one of the teachers on OT yesterday it sounded like she was saying that the other lessons on their curriculum was more important than PE and that there was no time to fit in PE lessons - thats terrible.. i dunno cut out religious studies or some other pointless class then and introduce proper PE classes!

My sisters was a pe teacher. Her other subject was maths. There are dedicated teachers around! TBH I've never seen the point if P.E. It's so easy to get out of so all you have is one group of students who already enjoy sports participating and one group wasting their own time. I don't see how they couldn't for it in and others schools can? They should fix their time tabling!

Also I don't think religion is pointless IMO.

AlanS181824

None.

heldel00

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

primary school need to have them as well! - granted not as full on as when they are in secondary level education but still, just to get them fit and give them excercise and ready for when they get to secondary school - why the reason for no proper P.E. classes in primary school i wonder?

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

true that, but id like to see a documentary on TV (even if there is some undercover footage) of how many schools in Ireland participate in regular PE lessons and how good they are

So if we need specialised PE teachers andy does that mean we need outside teachers for music, visual arts, science etc?
Primary teachers are as qualified in teaching PE as they are in any of the other 12 areas of the curriculum.
PE is taught for 1 hour a week by every teacher who is following DES guidelines. Over the year the children should experience aquatics, dance, gymnastics, orienteering, games, athletics and so on...
Primary forum has a thread discussing this already (I actually started it because I was disgusted with O. Transformation and their haphazard method of research regarding PE in primary schools.)

MRnotlob606

We had two PE Teachers, However none of them were qualified to teach PE. One was my woodwork teacher and the other one was my business teacher. They had to fill in for our actual PE after he had left. It just turned into soccer in the yard.

Mardy Bum

Government cut backs has meant that teachers who are not registered for PE are teaching it in a lot of places.

saywhatyousee

We had P.E teachers in primary and secondry school that just taught P.E and nothing else

heldel00

saywhatyousee wrote: »

We had P.E teachers in primary and secondry school that just taught P.E and nothing else

How was this possible in primary school? Was it a fee-paying school?

Jinonatron

I used to love PE. In first year we had it for 90 minutes as the last class of the week. Was absolutely brilliant. We had 3 classes after lunch. Last 2 PE.

Then one year for some bizarre reason we had PE first thing after lunch and then had to change back into our uniform for the last class. So stupid.

I never understood the lads who didn't participate though. They would just sit at the side in their uniform doing nothing. Complete wasters in my opinion. No idea what they were missing. I used to love indoor soccer. I was ****e at it but always wanted to play in goal just to dive on people.

saywhatyousee

heldel00 wrote: »

How was this possible in primary school? Was it a fee-paying school?

No we also got free swimming lessons too maybe we were lucky

saywhatyousee

We also got free swimming lessons in secondary school too aswell our school had a pool.only in first year though

Lau2976

saywhatyousee wrote: »

We also got free swimming lessons in secondary school too aswell our school had a pool.only in first year though

Secondary school students needed to learn to swim? We did have it in primary school though. And water aerobics and diving in secondary.

LeinsterDub

Issue isn't PE teachers it's a matter of priorities. DES half an hour of religion a day for example.

Andy From Sligo

Jinonatron wrote: »

I used to love PE. In first year we had it for 90 minutes as the last class of the week. Was absolutely brilliant. We had 3 classes after lunch. Last 2 PE.

Then one year for some bizarre reason we had PE first thing after lunch and then had to change back into our uniform for the last class. So stupid.

I never understood the lads who didn't participate though. They would just sit at the side in their uniform doing nothing. Complete wasters in my opinion. No idea what they were missing. I used to love indoor soccer. I was ****e at it but always wanted to play in goal just to dive on people.

we used to have the odd few that were 'excused' from PE due to medical ailment or whatever - their mother/parent had to write a note to get you out of PE in our school

Had 2 PE only teachers in my school. Think I had 2 double lessons a week. Swimming, gymnastics, trampolining, athletics, cross country, netball, squash, badminton, hockey.

2 fully equipped gymnasiums and used Crystal Palace for swimming, track & field and sports day.

heldel00

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Issue isn't PE teachers it's a matter of priorities. DES half an hour of religion a day for example.

DES has nothing to do with religion

Andy From Sligo

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Issue isn't PE teachers it's a matter of priorities. DES half an hour of religion a day for example.

Religion is really gonna help u get you a job when you leave school ... especially if your gonna be a priest or a nun lol :rolleyes:

Lau2976

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Religion is really gonna help u get you a job when you leave school ... especially if your gonna be a priest or a nun lol :rolleyes:

Religion teaches about world religion, tolerance, philosophy and is also the tine in which students get both cao discussions and sexual and mental health talks.

Andy From Sligo

sure in my Primary school in the UK (which would have been Juniors, and we called secondary school High School) we used to do Relay Races and basketball (boys and girls... mind u I think the girls called it netball) and Rounders and swimming in our PE lessons. And we used to have 'Sports Days' Annually in the summer where we done relay running, sack races, egg and spoon races and high jumps things like that, our parents would attend and sometimes join in with the events too - great craic ... I dunno whether schools do that in the UK any more though, maybe health and safety peeps have put a stop to it these days...

saywhatyousee

Lau2976 wrote: »

Secondary school students needed to learn to swim? We did have it in primary school though. And water aerobics and diving in secondary.

Well no your right they were not lesson like we had in primary school we were just let loose for a hour in the pool the only bad thing about it was our swimming class was first class on a Wednesday so you would have to go through the whole day stinking of chlorine

Andy From Sligo

Lau2976 wrote: »

Religion teaches about world religion, tolerance, philosophy and is also the tine in which students get both cao discussions and sexual and mental health talks.

really!? sexual and mental health talks?? in Religious Education class? - Blimey!

Toto Wolfcastle

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

sure in my Primary school in the UK (which would have been Juniors, and we called secondary school High School) we used to do Relay Races and basketball (boys and girls... mind u I think the girls called it netball) and Rounders and swimming in our PE lessons. And we used to have 'Sports Days' Annually in the summer where we done relay running, sack races, egg and spoon races and high jumps things like that, our parents would attend and sometimes join in with the events too - great craic ... I dunno whether schools do that in the UK any more though, maybe health and safety peeps have put a stop to it these days...

We did all that in my primary school too, but in Ireland. We went swimming once a week in addition to PE. Annual sports days are very common in Ireland too.