Eastenders [News, Spoilers and Discussion - from Feb 2015]

whatismyname

The Talking Bread wrote: »

back then, especially when controversy surrounded the pregnancy and the convent was involved a pregnancy or elements of it such as dates of birth could easily be covered up. i'd imagine the Slaters decided two babies were far too big a burden to mind. Very highly likely Sean is the son. Jean raising a child that was born "two months after" Kats child is far too much a coincidence as is this whole key mystery and the fact that Stacy is the only Slater remaining for the whole next few months to "carry on" the story. ?I thought it could be the transvestite character but of course the baby was a son, wasn't he??

Yes, the baby was born a son, and Kyle was born biologically female.

My gut instinct, particularly with all their twists lately, is that it will not be Sean, but I recognise there is a good chance that I'll be wrong on that.

whatismyname

Just putting Ryan Malloy out there as another possibility for Kat's son. I'm really not saying that he is, just that he's another possibility, and he's the right age, and it'd be an interesting twist since he's Lily's dad. Oh and the actor who plays him is probably more likely to return than Robert Kazinsky.

JP Liz V1

whatismyname wrote: »

Just putting Ryan Malloy out there as another possibility for Kat's son. I'm really not saying that he is, just that he's another possibility, and he's the right age, and it'd be an interesting twist since he's Lily's dad. Oh and the actor who plays him is probably more likely to return than Robert Kazinsky.

I assume there is more to his one brief appearance last year, so Ryan is a possibility

whatismyname

Sister Ruth reveals that one of Kat's family members knew about her son all along.

Kat finds out that this was Mo.

They argue, and Charlie, who hadn't known about Kat's son, can't cope with it, and has a heart attack.

Belinda returns to start war with Kat as she blames her for Charlie's death.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/eastenders-spoilers-belinda-slater-returns-7110064

whatismyname

Speculation rather than a spoiler.

Is it a coincidence that we have one person, Kat, with a baby that she didn't know she had, who was presumably given away at birth, and another storyline where a woman i.e. Baby, had a baby selling operation?

Wondering if these storylines may be linked.

And perhaps since Mo is the family member who knew about her son, maybe she passed him on to Babe to find him a home. Again, just letting my mind wander...

Edit:

Also, remember Kat and Alfie will be getting their Ireland spin-off soon.

I'm not certain, but wasn't there something about the Ireland visit maybe being related to her son...

Just looked it up and an article about it in the Star said 'The secret leads the Moons realising that the answers to so many questions lie across the sea in Ireland – cue the hugely anticipated spin-off series.' so that's another element to it.

The Talking Bread

whatismyname wrote: »

Yes, the baby was born a son, and Kyle was born biologically female.

My gut instinct, particularly with all their twists lately, is that it will not be Sean, but I recognise there is a good chance that I'll be wrong on that.

with EE gut instincts never apply... only thing is guaranteed there will be another dozen twists before this plot is resolved

whatismyname

The Talking Bread wrote: »

with EE gut instincts never apply... only thing is guaranteed there will be another dozen twists before this plot is resolved

Well it's still my gut instinct. Really don't think it will be Sean.

The Talking Bread

whatismyname wrote: »

Speculation rather than a spoiler.

Is it a coincidence that we have one person, Kat, with a baby that she didn't know she had, who was presumably given away at birth, and another storyline where a woman i.e. Baby, had a baby selling operation?

Wondering if these storylines may be linked.

And perhaps since Mo is the family member who knew about her son, maybe she passed him on to Babe to find him a home. Again, just letting my mind wander...

Edit:

Also, remember Kat and Alfie will be getting their Ireland spin-off soon.

I'm not certain, but wasn't there something about the Ireland visit maybe being related to her son...

Just looked it up and an article about it in the Star said 'The secret leads the Moons realising that the answers to so many questions lie across the sea in Ireland – cue the hugely anticipated spin-off series.' so that's another element to it.

sure Sean could be in Ireland to be fair. he couldnt of got far having passports checked.

ive convinced myself that he is the son now. Jeans hysteria surrounding the secret and Seans involvement as well as everything else points to it.

whatismyname

The Talking Bread wrote: »

sure Sean could be in Ireland to be fair. he couldnt of got far having passports checked.

ive convinced myself that he is the son now. Jeans hysteria surrounding the secret and Seans involvement as well as everything else points to it.

Points to it as a possibility yes, no denying that. But may be, may not be, time will tell

yerwanthere123

I wonder if Eastenders will address how exactly Kat is supposed to have given birth to a child and not known about it? Because there's straining logic and there's being ridiculous.

nikkibikki

whatismyname wrote:

Edit:

I was thinking this too!

January

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

I wonder if Eastenders will address how exactly Kat is supposed to have given birth to a child and not known about it? Because there's straining logic and there's being ridiculous.

It's well known that people can block out traumatic experiences in their life and only realise them years and years later.

yerwanthere123

January wrote: »

It's well known that people can block out traumatic experiences in their life and only realise them years and years later.

So she can remember pushing one of the babies out but not the other? Come on.

Tindie

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

So she can remember pushing one of the babies out but not the other? Come on.

After giving birth to zoe , she might have passed out and then the other baby popped out.

MistyCheese

If the baby does turn out to be

Sean

and

he was born three months before Zoe

then it's hard to imagine Kat not noticing something odd!

The Talking Bread

MistyCheese wrote: »

If the baby does turn out to be

Sean

and

he was born three months before Zoe

then it's hard to imagine Kat not noticing something odd!

Read my post above on this. Its very logical.

JP Liz V1

I wonder would Kush and Shabham go for custody of Arthur Brian given Stacey's current state

whatismyname

MistyCheese wrote: »

If the baby does turn out to be

Sean

and

he was born three months before Zoe

then it's hard to imagine Kat not noticing something odd!

Yes, even if after he was born they registered him as having been born 2.5 months previously, it's still a bit of a stretch.

Kat, having been pregnant, goes off to have her baby, gives birth to as far as she is aware one baby, and then on returning discovers that her Aunt Jean and Uncle Brian have suddenly had a new baby too at the same time.

Not that she'd suddenly go 'oh, hang on, maybe I actually had two babies and that's my baby too', but you'd certainly expect her to think something odd at the timing, even if just 'biggest coincidence ever'.

If it is Sean, there'll be something to explain it of course, but it'll all still be quite a stretch. But if it pulls in the viewers, then all good

The Talking Bread

back then, especially when controversy surrounded the pregnancy and the convent was involved a pregnancy or elements of it such as dates of birth could easily be covered up. i'd imagine the Slaters decided two babies were far too big a burden to mind. Very highly likely Sean is the son. Jean raising a child that was born "two months after" Kats child is far too much a coincidence as is this whole key mystery and the fact that Stacy is the only Slater remaining for the whole next few months to "carry on" the story. ?I thought it could be the transvestite character but of course the baby was a son, wasn't he??

The Talking Bread

whatismyname wrote: »

Yes, even if after he was born they registered him as having been born 2.5 years previously, it's still a bit of a stretch.

Kat, having been pregnant, goes off to have her baby, gives birth to as far as she is aware one baby, and then on returning discovers that her Aunt Jean and Uncle Brian have suddenly had a new baby too at the same time.

Not that she'd suddenly go 'oh, hang on, maybe I actually had two babies and that's my baby too', but you'd certainly expect her to think something odd at the timing, even if just 'biggest coincidence ever'.

If it is Sean, there'll be something to explain it of course, but it'll all still be quite a stretch. But if it pulls in the viewers, then all good

2 and a half months, not years

whatismyname

The Talking Bread wrote: »

2 and a half months, not years

Thanks for letting me know about that typo.

The Talking Bread

whatismyname wrote: »

Thanks for letting me know about that typo.

Eh its a massive difference!!!!

whatismyname

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Eh its a massive difference!!!!

Massive difference but kinda irrelevant since it's a typographical error, which you will know, since you will know from the content of the post and my previous posts that I am aware that there was 2.5 months difference in the published dates of birth of both babies.

Thanks for letting me know about the typo though. I wouldn't have re-read it back again to spot it, so you're an absolute star!

Lisha

Hi Stacy
I'm your brother.... Ffs how many more secret family members can there possibly be!!

casio4

how disappointed is he and his girlfriend going to be when they find out it wasn't Stacey that won the lotto and wasn't it a bit silly the nun blurting that out like that?

The Talking Bread

whatismyname wrote: »

Massive difference but kinda irrelevant since it's a typographical error, which you will know, since you will know from the content of the post and my previous posts that I am aware that there was 2.5 months difference in the published dates of birth of both babies.

Thanks for letting me know about the typo though. I wouldn't have re-read it back again to spot it, so you're an absolute star!

Stop being a spa. It was more so for others who may have read your post who weren't aware of the listed DOB. I certainly didn't know before you referred to it a few pages back. Most people skip spoiler posts and the first thing they would have seen in reference to the difference in dob between Sean and Kats daughter was your post saying 2.5 years which if you hadn't corrected it would have misled others.

You know well I acknowledged your post a few pages back.

Sarcasm is not an enviable trait. Let's leave it at that.

The Talking Bread

What's ryans age anyone??

MistyCheese

whatismyname wrote: »

Kat, having been pregnant, goes off to have her baby, gives birth to as far as she is aware one baby, and then on returning discovers that her Aunt Jean and Uncle Brian have suddenly had a new baby too at the same time.

Yes, look Kat, here's your cousin Sean. Turns out your auntie Jean was pregnant too. No, I know she never said anything and didn't stop drinking or anything like that but, em, that's because you see she didn't know she was pregnant. Yes, it is a bit strange that she never looked pregnant at any stage. Some women have really small bumps I guess. Anyway he's four months old. Yes I guess it is a bit odd that he's pretty much the same size as your child who's only a month old. Anyway, we're going to tell everyone that your baby is actually your sister. So we'll be lying about that. But we're telling the truth about Sean. Your cousin. Yes.

whatismyname

MistyCheese wrote: »

Yes, look Kat, here's your cousin Sean. Turns out your auntie Jean was pregnant too. No, I know she never said anything and didn't stop drinking or anything like that but, em, that's because you see she didn't know she was pregnant. Yes, it is a bit strange that she never looked pregnant at any stage. Some women have really small bumps I guess. Anyway he's four months old. Yes I guess it is a bit odd that he's pretty much the same size as your child who's only a month old. Anyway, we're going to tell everyone that your baby is actually your sister. So we'll be lying about that. But we're telling the truth about Sean. Your cousin. Yes.

Brilliant

whatismyname

MistyCheese wrote: »

Yes, look Kat, here's your cousin Sean. Turns out your auntie Jean was pregnant too. No, I know she never said anything and didn't stop drinking or anything like that but, em, that's because you see she didn't know she was pregnant. Yes, it is a bit strange that she never looked pregnant at any stage. Some women have really small bumps I guess. Anyway he's four months old. Yes I guess it is a bit odd that he's pretty much the same size as your child who's only a month old. Anyway, we're going to tell everyone that your baby is actually your sister. So we'll be lying about that. But we're telling the truth about Sean. Your cousin. Yes.

Also, never mind Kat not knowing what was going on, wonder what they'd told Charlie since

It's been confirmed that he doesn't know about her son

"Your teenage daughter's come back with her new baby from the nunnery, we're gonna bring this baby up as our own, oh and btw your relative Jean now has a 2.5 month old baby boy'.

If it is Sean it's gonna be so funny seeing quite how they explain it all away