Eastenders [News, Spoilers and Discussion - from Feb 2015]

Black Menorca

deise08 wrote: »

Patrick had the stroke after Lucy death correct?

He did.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

If she was killed at home though, or at least not where she was found... it would have to have been someone with access to a car, right?
If I remember correctly Patrick and Denise went to the funeral in a taxi.

Black Menorca

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

If she was killed at home though, or at least not where she was found... it would have to have been someone with access to a car, right?
If I remember correctly Patrick and Denise went to the funeral in a taxi.

Hmmm.Then again, Syed and Christian could have double teamed.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Black Menorca wrote: »

Hmmm.Then again, Syed and Christian could have double teamed.

What Syed and Christian get up to in the privacy of their own home is none of my business

fussyonion

I'm such a huge Eastenders fan and this is exactly why; they've always got great storylines, big cliffhangers and who-dunnit's...no other soap can rival them.

Anyway, I really hope, after all this build-up, that the killer turns out to be someone we didn't expect. Because of the suspects, i.e Abi, Jay, Jane, Denise, etc etc, would it really be a surprise to find it was one of them?
Why not let it be someone you DIDN'T expect..now that's a blow!

Can't wait for the next two weeks!!

Tasden

I don't know, if it was someone not previously a suspect I'd think they just didn't know what they were doing the last few months and it was a cop out tbh.
Unless it's someone really shocking

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Tasden wrote: »

I don't know, if it was someone not previously a suspect I'd think they just didn't know what they were doing the last few months and it was a cop out tbh.
Unless it's someone really shocking

As long as it makes sense with everything we've seen the past year. If it's someone who had no connection to Lucy or the Beales and who hasn't featured at all in any aspect of the case I'd feel like they just decided at the last minute who did it. After waiting the best part of a year I think the average viewer will want to feel like it was worth them paying attention for. You don't want to feel like you could have just tuned out after she died and tuned back in for the reveal and it didn't matter that you missed 9 or 10 months of hints and clues.

Tasden

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

As long as it makes sense with everything we've seen the past year. If it's someone who had no connection to Lucy or the Beales and who hasn't featured at all in any aspect of the case I'd feel like they just decided at the last minute who did it. After waiting the best part of a year I think the average viewer will want to feel like it was worth them paying attention for. You don't want to feel like you could have just tuned out after she died and tuned back in for the reveal and it didn't matter that you missed 9 or 10 months of hints and clues.

Yeah I suppose if they worked it into the clues etc but it'd have to really all fall into place for it to be someone other than the suspects imo.

emanresu esrever

Friday the 13th for a certain someone................................................

fr336

morebabies

Hmm, Lauren acting very nervous around her fiancé after reading Emma's file... Super obvious though so probably a red herring.

Frigga_92

I foresee a bit of kissing and cuddling between Roxy and Ronnie's husband.

fr336

Borefest tonight.

Black Menorca

26sdrawkcab wrote: »

I foresee a bit of kissing and cuddling between Roxy and Ronnie's husband.

I was hoping Roxy was going to snog Kat.

dogcat

I wonder could it be Billy? Not one of the main suspects but she glanced over and Billy was there as well as the rest. Not much interaction if any.

Black Menorca

dogcat wrote: »

I wonder could it be Billy? Not one of the main suspects but she glanced over and Billy was there as well as the rest. Not much interaction if any.

Billy was also hiding pics of Lucy behind the fridge. Found by Mrs Undertaker.

Nick Cotton dies this Friday coming, so the aftermath of that reverberates into Live week.

Kim gives birth LIVE

Ian and Jane DO get married. Adam confirmed it.

They showed a clip of Live week. It featured Jane crying outside the Vic with similar lighting to the last time we saw Lucy alive (electric). It then went through the Vic looking at all the suspects being jolly (no Ian though) and Dot was doing a voiceover, talking about murder. It was great and chilling. Think it's for one of Thursday's episode.

JP Liz V1

Where is Phil, I wanna see him pound Max's face into the pavement

fussyonion

Lauren acting all weird with Peter is just to throw viewers off-scent, so I reckon we can rule Peter out.
I also think we can rule Abi and Whitney out as they were both made to look guilty tonight, too.
General rule of soap is: if someone's acting shifty/guilty, it's usually never them.

fr336

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Where is Phil, I wanna see him pound Max's face into the pavement

Gone to visit his Mum and bring back her and Grant to the square after somehow buying Max's house and businesses from under him and Peggy saying "Get outta my garage!!". Just wait.

yipeeeee

Where's Cindy?

JP Liz V1

yipeeeee wrote: »

Where's Cindy?

She is dead


If you mean Cindy Jnr probably up stairs with Beth

emanresu esrever

Deleted User wrote: »

Nick Cotton dies this Friday coming, so the aftermath of that reverberates into Live week.

Kim gives birth LIVE

Ian and Jane DO get married. Adam confirmed it.

They showed a clip of Live week. It featured Jane crying outside the Vic with similar lighting to the last time we saw Lucy alive (electric). It then went through the Vic looking at all the suspects being jolly (no Ian though) and Dot was doing a voiceover, talking about murder. It was great and chilling. Think it's for one of Thursday's episode.

I assume this is copy/paste post from someone at Graham norton EE special show?!

fr336

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

She is dead

She is not she's been running a B&B in Texas with Kathy Beale and Den Watts.

emanresu esrever

emanresu esrever wrote: »

I assume this is copy/paste post from someone at Graham norton EE special show?!

Yes

I never take credit for spoilers I am only sharing

emanresu esrever

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes

I never take credit for spoilers I am only sharing

oh right. can you put the source down then if it is something like that. i copped it on but others may not realise what you mean by "a video being showed". saves confusion!

CorkyLFC

Jane said to Alfie to go ahead with the stag as her and Cindy needed alone time last night..

Starting to think it was Cindy who killed Lucy now(with Jane covering it up).

Ah come on big reveal!!!

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

I think it was Ian.... (or Jane, or Cindy, or a combination of them all?)

Lauren seemed off with Peter but not the way she was off with Max and Jake when she suspected them of being the killer. She was rolling her eyes at Ian when Alfie was making his speech and she could be questioning her relationship with Peter because she never would have suspected Ian was capable of such a thing so how does she know what Peter is capable of? I also think it's someone very close to Peter and Lauren is worried about the truth coming out and what it would mean for Peter.

Just my take on it though.

Of course Lauren being less than impressed with Ian's stag due may be down to it being Jane....

I'd put money on it being one of them. Leaning towards Ian though.

earlytobed

morebabies wrote: »

Hmm, Lauren acting very nervous around her fiancé after reading Emma's file... Super obvious though so probably a red herring.

She's nervous thinking about live shows next week!

emanresu esrever

this max stealing the arches story is beyond ridiculous! you wouldnt see it in a cartoon! one thing bringing the soap down at the moment.

JP Liz V1

Billy needs a storyline, make him Lucy's killer


Peggy is back next week so I assume missing Phil went off to see her

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

earlytobed wrote: »

She's nervous thinking about live shows next week!

She's not in them so I doubt she's bothered.

emanresu esrever

my prediction, dot buys nick the heroin that kills him (overdose) and she blames herself and tries to hand herself in to the police. apparently it is a low key emotional death with just the two of them and they have a proper chat.

morebabies

Yeah Ian sounding more plausible, I remember when he came back after his breakdown Lucy was horrible to him because she felt he'd abandoned her. Maybe he felt she was in self destruct mode and would use that as an excuse for trying to protect his family. This storyline is just hurting my brain now. I shouldn't be spending so much time wondering about a soap plot. Is there a helpline for people like me?

emanresu esrever

morebabies wrote: »

Yeah Ian sounding more plausible, I remember when he came back after his breakdown Lucy was horrible to him because she felt he'd abandoned her. Maybe he felt she was in self destruct mode and would use that as an excuse for trying to protect his family. This storyline is just hurting my brain now. I shouldn't be spending so much time wondering about a soap plot. Is there a helpline for people like me?

sorry if it turns out to be Ian, the whole story is a joke if you ask me. He has been the most innocent and genuinely shocked and distraught character. Ian never comes across as someone who could hold a secret so incredibly large, hence his breakdown after finding out about Heather. He also has a strong alibi. He may have been involved in some capacity, as i am sure all the suspects are complicated into the events of the night but they couldn't destroy his character by making him a murderer of his child, accident or not.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

I'm trying to remember everyone's reactions when they found out about Lucy. Was Jane even there? I can't remember.

I'd say the number on Emma's paper was the Beale home number, that's why Lauren recognised it but isn't actually 100% sure who it was. It would also explain Emma having their mobile number as she was their family liaison officer and would have all of their contact details.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

emanresu esrever wrote: »

sorry if it turns out to be Ian, the whole story is a joke if you ask me. He has been the most innocent and genuinely shocked and distraught character. Ian never comes across as someone who could hold a secret so incredibly large, hence his breakdown after finding out about Heather. He also has a strong alibi. He may have been involved in some capacity, as i am sure all the suspects are complicated into the events of the night but they couldn't destroy his character by making him a murderer of his child, accident or not.

Ian would still be shocked and distraught if he accidentally killed her. They may have had a row and she got hurt but didn't die, he went off to sleep with Tanya's sister thinking Lucy was fine, just in a sulk, wasn't overly concerned when she didn't come home, then got a genuine shock when the police showed up to say she was dead. He couldn't do anything at the funeral either, he needed to be pushed at the appeal too. Sure you could chalk that down to grief but it could also be guilt.

emanresu esrever

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Ian would still be shocked and distraught if he accidentally killed her. They may have had a row and she got hurt but didn't die, he went off to sleep with Tanya's sister thinking Lucy was fine, just in a sulk, wasn't overly concerned when she didn't come home, then got a genuine shock when the police showed up to say she was dead. He couldn't do anything at the funeral either, he needed to be pushed at the appeal too. Sure you could chalk that down to grief but it could also be guilt.

OF COURSE THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE. BUT UNLESS IAN'S PERSONALITY HAS COMPLETELY CHANGED OVER THE LAST 10 MONTHS THERE IS NO WAY HE WOULD HAVE BEHAVED IN SUCH A MANNER KNOWING HE KILLED HIS DAUGHTER. aLL HIS EMOTIONS, ALL HIS FINGER POINTING, HIS SUSPICIONS ETC OVER THE LAST YEAR, IT JUST WOULDNT ADD UP THAT HE KNEW HE WAS THE GUILTY PARTY.

WHATEVER ABOUT BEING A SKIRMY G1T, THE GUY HAS A CONSCIENCE AND ISNT GOOD WITH SECRETS SO FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO WALK AROUND WITH THAT WEIGHT ON HIS SHOULDER WOULD BE AKIN TO TODD GRIMSHAW'S PERSONALITY CHANGE SINCE RETURNING FROM LONDON.


APOLOGIES BTW FOR CAPS LOCK!!! GOT HALF WAY THROUGH THE MAIL AND REALISED IT WAS ON! I KNOW HOW ANNOYING IT IS!

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Who did Ian point the finger at though? Peter attacked Billy when he thought it was him, he was also out with Lauren trying to track down the taxi driver. I don't remember Ian accusing anyone.... ? So much has happened over such a long time though I could be wrong.

Black Menorca

CorkyLFC wrote: »

Jane said to Alfie to go ahead with the stag as her and Cindy needed alone time last night..

Starting to think it was Cindy who killed Lucy now(with Jane covering it up).

Ah come on big reveal!!!

Cindy. You could be right.

But I just don't believe Jane would arrange the dumping of Lucy's body in the woods.

Good theory taken from digital spy

In the previews for next week, it says that Dean returns with a shocking revenge against the Carter family. Anyone think he will take the family hostage at the wedding reception, using the gun Shirley shot Phill with?. Maybe we'll get a live death, alongside the live birth and wedding.

emanresu esrever

Deleted User wrote: »

Good theory taken from digital spy

In the previews for next week, it says that Dean returns with a shocking revenge against the Carter family. Anyone think he will take the family hostage at the wedding reception, using the gun Shirley shot Phill with?. Maybe we'll get a live death, alongside the live birth and wedding.

considering he signed a 1 year contract, i doubt it. he will do something sinister and the way he glanced at that shovel in his last scene, perhaps he knows where the gun shirley shot phil with has been hidden by jay/ben but i doubt they would make him a murderer as well as a rapist. i reckon they are going to try (good luck to them) redeem his character over next few months.

but stan will die next week, no doubt about it.

dee_mc

I keep wondering will Dean somehow get roped in to killing Stan, then get shopped by one of the family? Would that be justice?

emanresu esrever

emanresu esrever wrote: »

considering he signed a 1 year contract, i doubt it. he will do something sinister and the way he glanced at that shovel in his last scene, perhaps he knows where the gun shirley shot phil with has been hidden by jay/ben but i doubt they would make him a murderer as well as a rapist. i reckon they are going to try (good luck to them) redeem his character over next few months.

but stan will die next week, no doubt about it.

Yeah but they could be leaking fake spoilers for big surprises for the anniversary

dee_mc wrote: »

I keep wondering will Dean somehow get roped in to killing Stan, then get shopped by one of the family? Would that be justice?

Another good theory Next week is going to be exciting

dogcat

I remember when Emma solved it she looked at Max's house and Denise's house. Maybe the number was Denise's home phone as it wouldn't make much sense if it was Max's as she has his mobile.

emanresu esrever

Dean rushed into the pub when patrick fell to say something about only leaving Patrick for 5 minutes? this lit a bulb with Emma. So maybe it's this made her realise, something could or couldn't have been done in 5 minutes - or something could or couldn't have been done if it meant leaving Patrick on his own for a long time?
'Five minutes' is the time Max claims to have left the house for that night to walk the dog. I think it made Emma realise that a lot can happen in five minutes. You can pop out and come back to find something dreadful has happened in your absence. Dean finding a fallen Patrick, or Max finding his daughter standing over a dead Lucy.

emanresu esrever

dee_mc wrote: »

I keep wondering will Dean somehow get roped in to killing Stan, then get shopped by one of the family? Would that be justice?

justice is only served if you are convicted of the crime you actually committed. i think it would be very sinister of the carters to implicate dean into stans death if he is innocent. i think by justice it will mean being abandoned by his family and the community finding out his real crime.

dogcat

Maybe it was Patrick and Denise?

emanresu esrever

dogcat wrote: »

Maybe it was Patrick and Denise?

i have thought this for a while. that is why denise has such control over patrick or vice versa. may explain denises alcoholism and that evil look she gave at the choir singing.

dogcat

emanresu esrever wrote: »

i have thought this for a while. that is why denise has such control over patrick or vice versa. may explain denises alcoholism and that evil look she gave at the choir singing.

Patrick didn't have the stroke long after Lucy died I think? Could be stress of killing someone (just a possibility)?