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Johnny Manziel in Rehab

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭Moist Bread


    I like to see sports stars show a bit of colour, a streak of the rebel, not be afraid to let the hair down.

    Manziel way overstepped that long ago and is evidently just a complete and utter gobshXXe with nothing but contempt for those around him. I can understand addictions, painkillers, recreational drugs, alcohol...but a partying lifestyle? No. If his career ends up on the scrapheap, you'd have to say it was precisely what he deserved.

    It would be what he deserves. Let's face it, it's the most likely scenario right now. That's why I would like if he proved everyone wrong and did well with what seems to be the most hated team in the NFL - Dallas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,276 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Off topic I know so forgive me, but Moist Bread, what is your sig about? Just seeing it for the first time.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Off topic I know so forgive me, but Moist Bread, what is your sig about? Just seeing it for the first time.

    it's bloody hilarious thats what it is :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭nasty_crash


    I think the browns were a toxic environment that just feeded Manziels madness! There is some coaches that would just take manziel and put him under there wing and protect him from outside stuff! Honestly i dont think he is a bad qb - bit small - but he has the potential to be an above average starter if he has some help around him. He linked up well with Benjamin this year when he played!

    Is he an idiot - yes - but with the right team i think he could be less of an idiot! I dont think thats with the browns


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭Moist Bread


    Off topic I know so forgive me, but Moist Bread, what is your sig about? Just seeing it for the first time.

    Just a light-hearted joke. Also wanted to show those amazing PS skills off :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14520130/how-browns-johnny-manziel-failed-last-great-audition

    I like to see athletes fail. Joe Thomas with some...blunt quotes on his QB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Hey Lloyd, I hear those Antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell blokes in Pittsburgh are loose cannons. Great your thread started! :D


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,196 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Which team will Johnny Manziel be on for Week 1 of the 2016 NFL Regular Season:

    Dallas Cowboys: 2/1
    Cleveland Browns: 6/1
    Philadelphia Eagles: 7/1
    St. Louis Rams: 15/2
    San Francisco 49ers: 10/1
    Houston Texans: 16/1
    Any other NFL team: 3/2
    Not on an NFL team: 7/1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    Manziel is not going to go anywhere and win a Superbowl. It's time for people to give up on him. He just doesn't give a crap and doesn't even need the money!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    SantryRed wrote: »
    Manziel is not going to go anywhere and win a Superbowl. It's time for people to give up on him. He just doesn't give a crap and doesn't even need the money!

    This is a huge thing IMO.

    The bloke was set even if he'd never bothered to play a game of football in his life. A heck of a lot of players in the NFL and other professional sports are insanely motivated because they've never had any money or any of the other stuff that comes with being successful. Manziel already had everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Browns going to cut him:
    In a statement released early Tuesday afternoon, new Browns executive director of football operations Sashi Brown addressed the latest early morning incident that included an altercation between Manziel and his girlfriend and a police helicopter searching for Manziel in the Dallas area.

    “We’ve been clear about expectations for our players on and off the field,” the statement said. “Johnny’s continual involvement in incidents that run counter to those expectations undermines the hard work of his teammates and the reputation of our organization. His status with our team will be addressed when permitted by league rules. We will have no further comment at this time.”

    Translation: Manziel’s two years of embarrassing the Browns are about over.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/02/browns-say-theyre-tired-of-manziels-antics/

    His Agent has dropped him:
    “It is with deep regret that, after several emotional and very personal discussions with his family, his doctors, and my client himself, I have made the decision to terminate my professional relationship with Johnny Manziel,” Burkhardt said. “Though I will remain a friend and Johnny supporter, and he knows I have worked tirelessly to arrange a number of professional options for him to continue to pursue, it has become painfully obvious that his future rests solely in his own hands. His family and I have gone to great lengths to outline the steps we feel he must take to get his life in order. Accountability is the foundation of any relationship, and without it the function of my work is counterproductive. I truly wish the best for Johnny and sincerely hope he can, and will, find the kind of peace and happiness he deserves.”

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/05/johnny-manziels-agent-dumps-him/

    Because of:
    The ex-girlfriend of NFL quarterback Johnny Manziel told police that the Heisman Trophy winner told her "shut up or I'll kill us both" after forcing her into a car, hitting her and dragging her by the hair.

    http://www.wfaa.com/sports/johnny-manziel-threatened-ex-girlfriend/32613842

    For which Dallas police do look like they will open a criminal investigation now:

    http://dpdbeat.com/2016/02/05/statement-regarding-johnny-manziel-2/


    Turns out he's a scumbag as well as a bum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,460 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Now that we know he will treat women like that he'll probably get signed by the Dallas Cowboys. Perfect fit!

    They'll probably get Greg Hardy to mentor him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Now that we know he will treat women like that he'll probably get signed by the Dallas Cowboys. Perfect fit!

    They'll probably get Greg Hardy to mentor him.

    Now that would be a true match made if heaven if there ever was one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Mike Silver was reporting earlier that Manziel showed up drunk to practice 3 days before the last regular season game of the season and the Browns lied and said he was in concussion protocol instead and that's the reason why he was sent home and thus absent from the facility.

    The Browns have heavily refuted that they lied to cover him (but not that he was intoxicated or hung over), but Silver is sticking to bulk of his report (that Manziel was drunk at practice) though says he regrets using the term "lied" as he isn't privvy to the conversation that Manziel had with the medical professional(s).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/mar/11/cleveland-browns-cut-johnny-manziel-nfl

    Waived / cut

    I will be surprised if he makes an active roster to start next season.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Magico Gonzalez


    Ryan Leaf part 2. He'll try but he'll never be an elite NFL qb.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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    Johnny having the craic at Coachella. Doesn't seem terribly bothered about getting back in the league.

    http://nypost.com/2016/04/18/johnny-manziel-parties-at-coachella-as-latest-nfl-chance-ticks-away/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭coco0981


    At this stage he is just a one man soap opera, no way he gets on a roster this year. I honestly think if you were to offer all 32 teams Manziel or Tebow as backup at this stage they would all go for Tebow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    He's a spoilt rich kid who never would have had to work a day in his life even if he had never found football. The vast majority of people in that situation are impossible to motivate and Manziel is no different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Irish94


    coco1981 wrote: »
    At this stage he is just a one man soap opera, no way he gets on a roster this year. I honestly think if you were to offer all 32 teams Manziel or Tebow as backup at this stage they would all go for Tebow

    Every team would pick Tebow. Manziel may possess more skill and ability than Tebow, but Tebow has the heart, determination and will give you 100%. You can't be taught these things unfortunately.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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    Cocaine is a hell of a drug. Serious weightloss in three months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/26/us/johnny-manziel-indicted/index.html

    Indicted by Grand Jury.

    Tebow / Richardson / Manziel

    I need a new project. :pac:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    What a waste


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/26/us/johnny-manziel-indicted/index.html

    Indicted by Grand Jury.

    Tebow / Richardson / Manziel

    I need a new project. :pac:

    Your name might seem a little ironic to your various projects....;)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    At this stage he is just boring.

    At the start it was kinda interesting, young man, world at his feet, rebellious, good to see a bit of colour, the anti hero etc. etc. I was rooting for him, could he battle those demons. But now he's just a parody of himself, a drunken clown that had chance after chance and kept deciding that he'd rather pi55 it away. Whether it be in 6 months (in which case he'd still have time to make a go of it), or 6 years, or when the money runs out, he will have so many regrets.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    I'm not sure if you guys have seen but apparently Jamarcus Russell wrote a letter to the Cowboys asking to try out.. he last played in 2009


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭astonaidan


    I was the same cheering him on, he was funny and cocky, but now hes just a joke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭coco0981


    I'm not sure if you guys have seen but apparently Jamarcus Russell wrote a letter to the Cowboys asking to try out.. he last played in 2009

    Saw that earlier, said he would lead the scout team for a year for free to get back in the NFL. I wonder has he worked his way through the reported $40 odd million he earned already or does he genuinely want a chance at some sort of redemption. Must be hard knowing your name is a byword for failure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    I'm not sure if you guys have seen but apparently Jamarcus Russell wrote a letter to the Cowboys asking to try out.. he last played in 2009

    He did the same in 2013 (attempted a comeback) which was documented by Bleacher Report. It was quite interesting. Episode 1 is below, the others are easy enough to find too:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1526127-comeback-2013-jamarcus-russells-road-back-to-the-nfl-episode-1

    He had a tryout with the Bears that year but no other team showed any interest.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    astonaidan wrote: »
    I was the same cheering him on, he was funny and cocky, but now hes just a joke

    I always like that streak of arrogance and rebellion in a player with ability. Used to train underage football teams and my favourite players were the ones with that mix of attitude and skill. Not the water carriers who would turn up at every training session but had no...spirit. But you'd still see it at that level, the ones who fell away and the ones who would drop the childishness eventually but retained the technique and channelled their anger in the proper way. Had one player who went on to become an inter county footballer with an All Ireland medal, as a 15 year old he would swear in the face of the ref, but he eventually knuckled down. But Manziel is at the stage where no one can trust any assurance he'll give, all his claims seem shallow.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭astonaidan


    I always like that streak of arrogance and rebellion in a player with ability. Used to train underage football teams and my favourite players were the ones with that mix of attitude and skill. Not the water carriers who would turn up at every training session but had no...spirit. But you'd still see it at that level, the ones who fell away and the ones who would drop the childishness eventually but retained the technique and channelled their anger in the proper way. Had one player who went on to become an inter county footballer with an All Ireland medal, as a 15 year old he would swear in the face of the ref, but he eventually knuckled down. But Manziel is at the stage where no one can trust any assurance he'll give, all his claims seem shallow.

    Its the same with rugby, I see it with young lads, I can spot the guys who are going to be stars and those who wont. A lad on our team had all the talent in the world and a cocky attitude, but he burnt out at senior level purely cause he thought he could continue drinking and not training that he got away with the previous years at underage. He doesnt play senior now with us only plays J2. This is a guy who was thought of as a future Ireland player, his attitude just stank, like a sound lad, but I had no time for him rugby wise, hes a guy who got away with murder at underage from coaches and I called it when he joined up with us, was all good being the cool kid underage but once your join the adults you just dont get away with it.
    Like yourself, I dont mind anger, Im quiet angry myself playing sports(when I started playing rugby at j2 they players couldnt understand why i didnt want a drink after losing, but its what got me starting for seniors, the coaches loved me), what I hate is lack of focus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,698 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I'm not sure if you guys have seen but apparently Jamarcus Russell wrote a letter to the Cowboys asking to try out.. he last played in 2009

    Played ? That's a bit of a stretch there heli.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    I always like that streak of arrogance and rebellion in a player with ability. Used to train underage football teams and my favourite players were the ones with that mix of attitude and skill. Not the water carriers who would turn up at every training session but had no...spirit. But you'd still see it at that level, the ones who fell away and the ones who would drop the childishness eventually but retained the technique and channelled their anger in the proper way. Had one player who went on to become an inter county footballer with an All Ireland medal, as a 15 year old he would swear in the face of the ref, but he eventually knuckled down. But Manziel is at the stage where no one can trust any assurance he'll give, all his claims seem shallow.


    Was it Paul Galvin?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭JaMarcusHustle


    Looking pretty rough this week. Looks to have no interest in attempting a comeback.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/johnny-manziel-appears-shockingly-thin-partying-las-vegas-article-1.2643925


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Looking pretty rough this week. Looks to have no interest in attempting a comeback.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/johnny-manziel-appears-shockingly-thin-partying-las-vegas-article-1.2643925

    Thread over by the looks of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭JaMarcusHustle


    This from last night apparently. Kicked out of a club in Vegas for punching somebody.



    I had thought the Manziel news had died down the past few weeks, but it's occurred to me that all this is still happening - sports sites have just given up reporting it. He's no longer seen as relevant NFL news it seems. And I guess that's justified if he has no interest in a comeback.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Johnny has a billionaire dad so he's probably quite happy to live the playboy/alcoholic life than bust his ass in the NFL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭JaMarcusHustle


    Hazys wrote: »
    Johnny has a billionaire dad so he's probably quite happy to live the playboy/alcoholic life than bust his ass in the NFL

    Not that there's much difference between millionaire and billionaire to a 9-5 pleb like myself, but I don't think he's anywhere near a billionaire?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Maybe not a billionaire but apparently his family has significant wealth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    He'll have a fair bit of his own cash to burn through for a while from his time in Cleveland too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    Trojan wrote: »

    Just wait until Jerrah jones falls in love and decides to itch the scratch he never got to when the cowboys drafted Zach Martin instead... i mean it was a plain awful decision from the folks at The Star in Frisco not to take old Johnny....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    I was waiting for this. One more delicious failure ahead of us.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Unless, of course, he's not a failure. I wouldn't expect him to turn it around spectacularly and become the superstar he might have been, maybe not even starting QB, but surely it's not completely out of the question that he could end up at some NFL outfit, maybe as back up?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Unless, of course, he's not a failure. I wouldn't expect him to turn it around spectacularly and become the superstar he might have been, maybe not even starting QB, but surely it's not completely out of the question that he could end up at some NFL outfit, maybe as back up?

    He's now over two years out of a team facility. Has he been working out? Photos of him in 2016 demonstrated a significant weight / size loss. He has a huge amount to prove for a team to be confident enough in paying for him to be a backup. And him as a backup comes with a certain amount of media circus that most franchises want no part of.

    He has to prove he's clean; that his mind is right; that he's in shape; that he can fit into an organisation as a contributor - and he'll have to prove all of this on a very short lease. I'm unsure if he even gets an opportunity in camp, but I'd be shocked if he makes an active 2018 regular season roster.

    Nevermind starting in the NFL again.




  • Not to mention no team wants that media headache as a backup


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    His (and probably RGIII's) best bets are surely through the CFL - everyone knows each has the talent, but they need to prove not only that they have figured out how to put that talent together (because even Jamarcus Russell was very talented... means feck all if you can't convert it to the pros) but that they can be a reliable pro on and off the field for a full year if not more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    Billy86 wrote: »
    His (and probably RGIII's) best bets are surely through the CFL - everyone knows each has the talent, but they need to prove

    RGIII is surely not in Manziel's league when it comes to being thought of as completely unreliable, is he?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    No not at all, but they're both just kind of washed up while in their 20s... RGIII might be able to land an emergency spot somewhere, Manziel has a hell of a lot more to do.


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