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Manager receiving all of my work emails

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  • 02-02-2015 10:11pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭


    Hi wondering if someone could help,

    2yrs ago I went on maternity leave, the Manger who took over my role took my laptop, on my mails, I set up that she would get any mails while I was gone from our clients/customers.

    Last year I came back from maternity leave, got a new laptop, got my mails back up and working with, I have found out today by accident by seeing it with my own eyes, she is getting all of my mails still, I have gotten my mails checked and nothing is showing up that indicates she is getting them, however she is and I'm back 13 months.

    How do I go about approaching this and who should I go too? This girl has gotten a promotion since I've come back which now makes her my manager!!


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Perhaps bring it up with her first?


  • Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭PUnited


    it depends on how you copped she is still receiving them. Did you spot it in a way that could be classed as snooping? if not just ask to have a word and ask is she still getting them and say sorry to have been burdening her inbox with your work related info.

    Would it be a case of they are still being forwarded to her or did she just have your email and password to set it up on her own pc? Maybe try and change your password?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭RikuoAmero


    What exactly is the problem? As you said this is a work laptop as in bought by them and she is your boss...why shouldn't she be able to see them?


  • Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭PUnited


    RikuoAmero wrote: »
    What exactly is the problem? As you said this is a work laptop as in bought by them and she is your boss...why shouldn't she be able to see them?

    Maybe its just me but anywhere i worked no one had access to an employees work emails except in cases like someone being off, that and IT.


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭tiny-tyno


    I was at her desk with her today and noticed a mail that was only sent to me just prior to me going to up to her.

    My issue here is why would someone not make it knowledgeable that by she is getting all of these mails 13 months on since I'm back. It's as though I'm been watched.

    All managers have private conversations via email and now she has read them all God only knows what was sent in d last 13 months


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  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭tiny-tyno


    PUnited wrote: »
    it depends on how you copped she is still receiving them. Did you spot it in a way that could be classed as snooping? if not just ask to have a word and ask is she still getting them and say sorry to have been burdening her inbox with your work related info.

    Would it be a case of they are still being forwarded to her or did she just have your email and password to set it up on her own pc? Maybe try and change your password?

    I've gotten I. T to look at my laptop and my mails once she was gone, and they have seen nothing on my My mails to suggest any forwarding on my side, they said they would need to look at her mail settings, my pw has to be changed every month for security.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    tiny-tyno wrote: »
    I've gotten I. T to look at my laptop and my mails once she was gone, and they have seen nothing on my My mails to suggest any forwarding on my side, they said they would need to look at her mail settings, my pw has to be changed every month for security.

    It could be configured on the mailserver if it's not on your laptop


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,195 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    tiny-tyno wrote: »
    Hi wondering if someone could help,

    2yrs ago I went on maternity leave, the Manger who took over my role took my laptop, on my mails, I set up that she would get any mails while I was gone from our clients/customers.

    Last year I came back from maternity leave, got a new laptop, got my mails back up and working with, I have found out today by accident by seeing it with my own eyes, she is getting all of my mails still, I have gotten my mails checked and nothing is showing up that indicates she is getting them, however she is and I'm back 13 months.

    How do I go about approaching this and who should I go too? This girl has gotten a promotion since I've come back which now makes her my manager!!
    If you have a problem with it then just say it to her!


  • Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭Kop On


    I assume she is getting every email you receive (personal too) and able to view every email you send? This is not a healthy situation.

    Ask her for a meeting and just be truthful, tell her you noticed the email coming in to her inbox the other day and just ask is there a reason why she still has access to all your emails?


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭tiny-tyno


    Kop On wrote: »
    I assume she is getting every email you receive (personal too) and able to view every email you send? This is not a healthy situation.

    Ask her for a meeting and just be truthful, tell her you noticed the email coming in to her inbox the other day and just ask is there a reason why she still has access to all your emails?

    She is getting everything. I feel like she has been watching me and not in a good way. I think IL go to our HR rep tomorrow


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    She might have been bcc'd in that one mail?


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭tiny-tyno


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    She might have been bcc'd in that one mail?

    I was beside the chap that sent it, he only put in my add,


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,968 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Email is the electronic equivalent of a postcard.

    There should not be anything in a work email that you are not comfortable with your manager seeing.

    In most companies, all emails are scanned automatically and ones that raise questions may be manually reviewed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭Kop On


    Email is the electronic equivalent of a postcard.

    There should not be anything in a work email that you are not comfortable with your manager seeing.

    In most companies, all emails are scanned automatically and ones that raise questions may be manually reviewed.

    Ah come off it. That's like something written in the IT security policy, but in reality there is no way a manager should have a mirror inbox etc for one of their employees. Unless they suspect them of something.

    Show me somebody who doesn't send personal emails from a work address and I'll show you a liar.

    As an adult I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a certain level of privacy in the workplace. The situation described is like something you'd do to your teenage child to monitor their Facebook interactions etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,949 ✭✭✭dixiefly


    I agree, totally out of order to have all of a colleagues incoming and outgoing mail forwarded like this.

    To the OP, get as many facts about the situation before confronting anyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    Do we know the manager isn't just getting these emails because they are too stupid or lazy to ask someone in IT to change it so they don't get them anymore?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Is it a work email address? Can you set up a new one for yourself and forward the new address to all your clients?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    I assume that you are also a manager. I would request from IT to check that you email is not still being forwarded to any other account, or that no one else has access to your inbox. You can have a shared inbox. It could be it was never turned off. You might need to go through HR for that, depends on your IT dept.

    I would also check your companies IT policy in relation to email, and email privacy. I would have no expectation of privacy of work email. But I would expect to be informed of any policy regarding it. TBH I think its a mistake to treat even personal email as secure. They say you should put nothing in email you wouldn't want to see on the 9 O'Clock news. A lot of places , people avoid using email for this very reason.

    I would be careful about claiming someone else has access, as you can't prove it. So I wouldn't let on you know someone else has access. But you can tell people not to sent you personal/confidential emails for the time being. Getting an alternate email set up might a good way to proceed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭skallywag


    Tell your IT dept that your email was being forwarded to another colleague while you were out, and you would like to know if this forwarding is still active or not, now that you are back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭jayobray


    I would actually be concerned from an audit/security point of view that someone else could send an email purporting to be from you that may be inappropriate or cause offence.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭skallywag


    jayobray wrote: »
    I would actually be concerned from an audit/security point of view that someone else could send an email purporting to be from you that may be inappropriate or cause offence.

    From what I can gather emails being addressed to the OP are being forwarded to another person, I don't think there is any question of this other person having the capability to send emails on behalf of the OP.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,653 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Email is the electronic equivalent of a postcard.

    There should not be anything in a work email that you are not comfortable with your manager seeing.

    In most companies, all emails are scanned automatically and ones that raise questions may be manually reviewed.
    What a useless reply.

    Having your e-mail being redirected to a co-worker without cause or without being informed is totally unacceptable - http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/employment_rights_and_conditions/monitoring_and_surveillance_at_work/surveillance_of_electronic_communications_in_the_workplace.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    What a useless reply.

    Having your e-mail being redirected to a co-worker without cause or without being informed is totally unacceptable - http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/employment_rights_and_conditions/monitoring_and_surveillance_at_work/surveillance_of_electronic_communications_in_the_workplace.html

    From the first post...
    tiny-tyno wrote: »
    ... I set up that she would get any mails while I was gone from our clients/customers....


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,968 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Kop On wrote: »
    Show me somebody who doesn't send personal emails from a work address and I'll show you a liar.

    As an adult I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a certain level of privacy in the workplace. The situation described is like something you'd do to your teenage child to monitor their Facebook interactions etc.


    Well in the twenty-teens, you'd be wrong.

    Back in the 1990s/2000's when I was in a permanent job, I'd have agreed with you.

    But now as an agency worker with a smartphone, I would never, ever send a personal email from my work account. Among other things, because it's totally unnecessary.


    And as a former manager, I can tell you that, like it or not, the average worker is subject to a lot more supervision than the average teenager.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭ct5amr2ig1nfhp


    A little off topic but personal emails from a work address? Are you guys for real? Disciplinary offence here and rightly so. There's no need for it unless you have it approved.

    OP, I would check with your IT if there's a forwarder on your email. At least confirm it. If you don't want to be straight up with your boss, you could always make up an excuse that you found out 'accidently'.
    Something along the lines of "<Hey boss person> I'm planning to take leave later this year and wanted to check if I forward my mail from my outlook or do the IT guys have to do it. IT mentioned you were still getting my mail from when I was on maternity, so I just asked them to remove your email address. Sorry about that...you were probably getting all my 'junk'...*smile*"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 546 ✭✭✭sebcity


    I would guess 99% of people shoot their mates emails from their work mail as it is convenient, it's always open in front of you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Send an email to her husband/partner saying you really enjoyed hooking up last weekend and that you can't wait for next time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 262 ✭✭txt_mess


    Hate to say it but I've worked in IT for over 20 years most companies have it in their contracts which everyone signs that company email and assets must only be used for company purposes and is subject to audit and review.

    This statement covers the employee being informed for any posting about their rights.

    Technically speaking they can use it as a reason for dismissal if they find something in your mail they don't like (like a link to a funny video sent to a mate). before everyone jumps up and down I know this is not the norm but it does not mean they can't do it if they want to.

    Best advice is use your smartphone and all you can eat data plan to keep yourself out of trouble , if your company doesn't allow phones then sorry but you are in work and your mates will have to wait.


  • Registered Users Posts: 262 ✭✭txt_mess


    Also as the folks have said above talk to your IT guys ask them to check if forwarding is in place and they won't care and will let you know.

    If they tell you it forwarding is not happening and clearly you have seen that it is still in place then your manager has asked for it to stay in place without you being aware and there is nothing much you can do apart from being ultra careful of what you write and keep it all business.

    Worth mentioning most places have calls and desktop recorded so your manager can be looking at what you are doing everytime you're on the computer in realtime.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    Maybe I'm bit strange but I really don't see the issue, this person is your manager so I don't see the issue with them having access to your work emails.

    I see my work email address for dealing with work issues and wouldn't use for personal emails at all I don't know why you would. From my own perspective I prefer to keep things separated, even in college I tried to keep college email for college things only.

    then from a work perspective, send out personal emails from it and people assume you can get personal emails to it, this could end up with you receiving email with material that is against against company policy, maybe not likely but a possibility, especially if that email gets added to a group list of friends emailing stuff.


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