Harry Redknapp resigns as QPR manager.

lertsnim

He is useless and QPR now have a chance of staying up.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Big job at Sky or BT for 'Arry next would be my guess.

Another reason not to subscriber if that happens

That_Guy

Blaming his knee? Would have thought it was the shíte tactics myself. 'Triffic.

GBXI

I don't think people realise how good of a manager he is/was. He's probably past his prime now but he got Spurs to a champions league and then topped a group that included the reigning champions, before knocking out AC Milan in the round of last 16.

He also won an FA Cup with Portsmouth. Great character and seemed to have a great eye for a good player.

Ravenid

But if Harry leaves who will the QPR fans blame if they are relegated?

That_Guy

Ravenid wrote: »

But if Harry leaves who will the QPR fans blame if they are relegated?

In fairness, if they do get relegated he will have played a huge part in it. Look at the tripe he's been allowed to sign and how they're set up. I mean, look at the amount of coaches he brought in FFS.

The whole set up was a mess and Fernandes should also receive a fair brunt of the blame for allowing it to continue as long as it has.

rob316

Southampton since they came up from league one are a shining example of how to run a club looking to establish themselves in the premier league. Putting has beings and journeymen on ludicrous contracts like QPR have is the wrong way to go, Fernandes hasn't the first idea on how to run a football club just another play thing.

Redknapp did a good job at Spurs until he started to court the England job and took his attention off a pretty damn good Spurs side. He generally wrecks clubs he works at and his poor signings are a dead weight on the clubs balance sheet.

That_Guy

rob316 wrote: »

Fernandes hasn't the first idea on how to run a football club just another play thing.

I agree in part with what you're saying. I don't think he's using it as a plaything. I think he legitimately cares. I mean, it's his money at the end of the day.

I just think he's very naive and his team around him are probably no better.

He reminds me of somebody playing FIFA who would just go out and buy a load of random players who have high stats because the money is endless without knowing how to set them up properly.

retalivity

GavRedKing wrote: »

Please God no, one Redknapp is too much on TV as it bloody is.

He is literally Jamie's father...

rossc007

Charliebull wrote: »

not hated just disliked for taking his eye of the ball when he was 5 points off the top of the league
look at the players he had at spurs, Roddy Collins would have managed them

a midfield of modric, parker, bale and lennon, not including king, Van de vart and a fully functioning adeyabour

and to think he almost sold bale to birmingham

Jasus, that seems a little bitter. Juande Ramos couldnt get the best out of those players. He helped Bale become the player he is today by moving him from the position he was bought to play in. Spurs where a consistantly mid table team for 25 years before he arrived, now anything outside the top four is a disappointment.

inforfun

rossc007 wrote: »

Jasus, that seems a little bitter. Juande Ramos couldnt get the best out of those players. He helped Bale become the player he is today by moving him from the position he was bought to play in. Spurs where a consistantly mid table team for 25 years before he arrived, now anything outside the top four is a disappointment.

It would be a disappointment for Arsenal, Utd, City and Chelsea. Maybe Liverpool.
But not for Spurs as they finished ..what..once in the top 4 in the last 25 years?

Think it says more about Ramos being a failure with that squad there was than it makes Redknapp a good manager.

Signing **** loads of players on massive wages doesnt make you a good manager.

galwaylad14

I think Harry has proved himself as a good manager over the years. In fairness most places he went he got decent results and got them playing decent football even though I'd say the club accountants of all those clubs were never overly impressed with him!

But I find him hard to like as a man and this whole situation only increases that dislike. His club are second bottom, yesterday he was trying to sign a few players, wasn't able to get them and now today of all days he decides he can't continue on because he's having knee surgery.

I wonder if he had got in 2 or 3 "top top" players on deadline day would this knee surgery have been near as pressing?

He literally must think the QPR fans and the public generally are idiots if he thinks anyone believes this is the reason he left.

theoneeyedman

Cartilidge gone in the knee apparently.... 'down to the bare bones innit'

Ulysses Gaze

He's 68 in March. I can see him either retiring or going into a DoF type role maybe.

KingdomYid

inforfun wrote: »

But not for Spurs as they finished ..what..once in the top 4 in the last 25 years?

Sorry to be pedantic but he finished in the top 4 twice in his time at Spurs

inforfun

I did it from memory.
Should have just looked it up.

Paully D

A cynical view, but it's hard not to think that the fact QPR's home fixtures get a damn sight more tougher from now played part. Jumping a sinking ship and escaping without a possible relegation on his CV springs to mind.

Jonathan Wilson sums up my view (@jonawils) :pac:

This is outrageous: why should Sunderland be forced to play QPR in their first non-Redknapp away game?

Duck Soup

Paully D

That_Guy wrote: »

The whole set up was a mess and Fernandes should also receive a fair brunt of the blame for allowing it to continue as long as it has.

I think Fernandes is a genuinely nice bloke who has the best interests of the club at heart deep down, but he just doesn't know enough about the game and/or has poor advisers. It appears he's definitely been guilty of letting managers bring in who they want and spend what they want without asking questions, most likely out of naivety.

Cookiemunster

Paully D wrote: »

A cynical view, but it's hard not to think that the fact QPR's home fixtures get a damn sight more tougher from now played part. Jumping a sinking ship and escaping without a possible relegation on his CV springs to mind.

Jonathan Wilson sums up my view (@jonawils) :pac:

He has one of those. He took Southamption down in 2005 and then resigned in December the following season to go back to Portsmouth.

rob316

Cookiemunster wrote: »

He has one of those. He took Southamption down in 2005 and then resigned in December the following season to go back to Portsmouth.

Also already took QPR down

Ulysses Gaze

Cookiemunster wrote: »

He has one of those. He took Southamption down in 2005 and then resigned in December the following season to go back to Portsmouth.

He took QPR down as well.

Cookiemunster

rob316 wrote: »

Also already took QPR down

Should have remembered that one!

MagicMarker

Charliebull wrote: »

look at the players he had at spurs, Roddy Collins would have managed them

a midfield of modric, parker, bale and lennon, not including king, Van de vart and a fully functioning adeyabour

Well... they started that season with 2 draws and 6 defeats, so you're obviously talking shíte.

Dirty Steve

15/20 years ago he was a decent manager, now he's just a dinosaur.
Brought through some of the best England players of their generation at West Ham.
Bit of a knob, but I'll miss his personality if he's retiring. He didn't give those canned answers managers give in interviews now.

GavRedKing

Sherwood is getting into the spirit.

Paully D

Cookiemunster wrote: »

He has one of those. He took Southamption down in 2005 and then resigned in December the following season to go back to Portsmouth.

Yep, I know. I should have said "another possible relegation"

Kirby

Dirty Steve wrote: »

Bit of a knob, but I'll miss his personality if he's retiring. He didn't give those canned answers managers give in interviews now.

If he retires, it's because he has to and nobody wants him. If he's offered another job, he'll take it.

He said earlier in the season that this was his last job in football but he's said that before. Today on Sky he said he'll have his surgery and then look to get straight back to work.

Blatter

Paully D wrote: »

Yep, I know. I should have said "another possible relegation"

Yep, also getting relegated after taking over a struggling team during the season is a bit different to it happening when you've been in charge since the start. Far more accountability and damages your rep more.

Blatter

Kirby wrote: »

If he retires, it's because he has to and nobody wants him. If he's offered another job, he'll take it.

He said earlier in the season that this was his last job in football but he's said that before. Today on Sky he said he'll have his surgery and then look to get straight back to work.

Reminds of the time when he left Portsmouth and said through his car door that there was no chance he'd be taking over at Southampton. He just wouldn't do it to Portsmouth he said.

We all know what happened within the next week :pac:

El Weirdo

Dirty Steve wrote: »

He didn't give those canned answers managers give in interviews now.

He didn't need to seeing he had his own line in them.

"T'riffic boy"
"Top, top, player"
"The chairman deals with those things"
etc, etc...

mikeym

Never mind Sherwood bring in Stan

Charliebull

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Bale was sh!te for a long time after he moved to Spurs. It wasn't until Harry switched him from left back to a very advanced left wing/second striker role that Bale finally came good.

Actually that was an accident, injury crisis forced his hand and the rest is history

I actually liked the man till he pimped himself to England,

COYVB

He'll be the next Villa manager

JPA

COYVB wrote: »

He'll be the next Villa manager

Don't say that. I couldn't handle it.

Duck Soup

Redknapp, 67, was angry that QPR's head of football operations Les Ferdinand was given control over signings during the January transfer window.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/harry-reddknapp-quits-qpr-manager-grows-tired-of-the-daily-grind-at-loftus-road-10021920.html

Ulysses Gaze

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

He's 68 in March. I can see him either retiring or going into a DoF type role maybe.

He is the last man I'd have in the Department of Finance.

El Weirdo

A fantastic piece that just about sums Redknapp (and QPR at the moment) up.

http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/37757/

TheDoc

Rarely have seen a manager go so free in the media from critique.

No away wins in the league is nothing short of embarrassing. A meh manager that has somehow developed a higher reputation via the media.

Shouldn't be near a premier league job again, but somehow can't rule it out.

Still get's banged on about how he setup a platform for Spurs, as everyone casually forgets how his January business was an absolute stink meaning they missed out on CL football that was all but theirs.

COYVB

TheDoc wrote: »

Rarely have seen a manager go so free in the media from critique.

'Arry and Martin O'Neill seem to get away with absolutely everything without a negative word being said

COYVB

JPA wrote: »

Don't say that. I couldn't handle it.

Sadly, I think you're going to need to figure out a way to deal with it. I've a terrible feeling that's what's around the corner

JPA

COYVB wrote: »

Sadly, I think you're going to need to figure out a way to deal with it. I've a terrible feeling that's what's around the corner

Nah, I don't think he's Lerner's type. Plus he's too old.

death1234567

COYVB wrote: »

'Arry and Martin O'Neill seem to get away with absolutely everything without a negative word being said

'Arry because he keeps the media boys onside and gives them easy stories. MON because he threatens litigation against anyone who dares criticise him.
Both are poor managers.

razorblunt

He'll be banking on Bournemouth going up, sacking their manager by end of August and then he's in.

It's written in the stars innit!!

LuckyLloyd

TheDoc wrote: »

Rarely have seen a manager go so free in the media from critique.

No away wins in the league is nothing short of embarrassing. A meh manager that has somehow developed a higher reputation via the media.

Shouldn't be near a premier league job again, but somehow can't rule it out.

Still get's banged on about how he setup a platform for Spurs, as everyone casually forgets how his January business was an absolute stink meaning they missed out on CL football that was all but theirs.

I think, in the final assessment, he was overrated by a British media desperate for one of their own to succeed towards the top end of the table. But he wasn't as bad as some quarters make him out to be either.

He's consistently demonstrated an ability to get teams up through the league structure
He's won silverware
He had a decent period at Spurs
He put together a good run at the CL the one year he was in it

However:

- he's been relegated twice;
- he's been a contributory factor to a couple of different clubs overspending and knocking themselves back for an extended period;
- he proved to be tactically naive at times while with Spurs;
- he was gifted a huge opportunity at Spurs having a group of highly talented players at his disposal for a time and, as such, his achievements were appropriate in that timeframe;

Overall, when you think about all the managers that manage in the English league structure Harry Redknapp definitely had a "good" career.

I, like many I'm sure, had a problem with the British media making him out to be something he wasn't and reacted to that but if this is the end as it could well be I'd be happy to call a spade a spade in terms of a review of his body of work.

Iused2likebusts

While overrated in the media he isn't as bad as been made out. In fairness to him his teams always played decent attacking football. A lot of the time he would have a player I really enjoyed watching in his teams. Di canio at west ham merson and prosinecki at Portsmouth and van der vaart at spurs. A bit of a spoofer but give me his style of football over the majority of other English managers like Pullis Pardew Hughes etc.

El Weirdo

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

... In fairness to him his teams always played decent attacking football. ...

QPR fan here that begs to differ.

Iused2likebusts

El Weirdo wrote: »

QPR fan here that begs to differ.

I'd agree with you about his time at qpr . Even in the championship last yr he didn't have them playing the type of attacking game he usually does.

blueser

Never understood the hype about him, to be honest. I can sort of see why the media like him; "good old 'arry", the cheeky cockney chappy, always good for a quote or three. Plus, he's English (which will always be a plus point for some of the more, er, "patriotic" of the sports hacks). But his actual managerial record re. winning trophies (play-offs apart) isn't great. One FA Cup win, I think, with Portsmouth (who he, in some peoples' eyes, nearly bankrupted). Very over-rated. Owner of a very financially astute dog though.

COYVB

JPA wrote: »

Nah, I don't think he's Lerner's type. Plus he's too old.

I don't think Lerner has a type really. Houllier, McLeish and Lambert aren't exactly bedfellows

LuckyLloyd

Redknapp has actually suffered relegation three times (and was clearly on course to suffer no.4) as he was in charge of a Bournemouth team that dropped out of (the then named) second division in the 80's.

I think relegation sometimes doesn't get the media consequences if deserves. To get relegated you have to suffer a truly dreadful season. A manager that suffers the fate multiple times at multiple clubs is clearly flawed. You just need to look at the bullish determination exhibited by Allardyce last season when West Ham were in the **** and the wsy they dug in together to sort it out. It demonstrates an inability to cement a squad and keep it ticking over and - more importantly - an inability to win ugly and claw for vital points.

I can understand it early in a manager's career at 'starter' clubs with a clear resource disadvantage. But it's a black mark against a manager if it happens repeatedly as their career develops.

If Klopp goes down this year you can be sure he's a false prophet.