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Isis burn pilot alive..

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    #512
    Wurzelbert
    Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    and it seems they even had the burning on the big screen for the crowds to watch in rakka...sorry, german article, but the picture says it all...


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    #513
    cork guitar player
    Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭cork guitar player


    ISIS are horrible and barbaric but is using white phosphorous or landmines more 'humane'; less barbaric than what they do?

    Their violence bad, western violence good?


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    #514
    Boristhebeast
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭Boristhebeast


    All civilised nations that want to end this joke of an Islamic state should contribute elite troops to an international division of soldiers dedicated to the annihilation of Islamic extremism, these soldiers should operate outside the rules of engagement and answer only to a select council chosen from the contributing nations. Operating from a permanent military base strategically placed in the middle east, these soldiers will hunt down and kill the scum without any fear of legal repercussions. Any means necessary, gloves off, call it what you will it is the only way to defeat Daesh militarily.


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    #515
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,525 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Boristhebeast wrote: »
    All civilised nations that want to end this joke of an Islamic state should contribute elite troops to an international division of soldiers dedicated to the annihilation of Islamic extremism, these soldiers should operate outside the rules of engagement and answer only to a select council chosen from the contributing nations. Operating from a permanent military base strategically placed in the middle east, these soldiers will hunt down and kill the scum without any fear of legal repercussions. Any means necessary, gloves off, call it what you will it is the only way to defeat Daesh militarily.

    Oh my we have a live one here :rolleyes:


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    #516
    Wurzelbert
    Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    i think what may well be unique about isis is the combination of absolute brutality and unrestrained sadism with total cynicism and a keen sense of publicity...even the ss did not send live broadcasts from the gas chambers...


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    #517
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Oh my we have a live one here :rolleyes:

    Its like a masturbatory fantasy for Medal of Honour/Call of Duty.


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    #518
    Dog of Tears
    Closed Accounts Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Dog of Tears


    Boristhebeast wrote: »
    All civilised nations that want to end this joke of an Islamic state should contribute elite troops to an international division of soldiers dedicated to the annihilation of Islamic extremism, these soldiers should operate outside the rules of engagement and answer only to a select council chosen from the contributing nations. Operating from a permanent military base strategically placed in the middle east, these soldiers will hunt down and kill the scum without any fear of legal repercussions. Any means necessary, gloves off, call it what you will it is the only way to defeat Daesh militarily.

    Cool.
    Then Hollywood could make a movie out of it.


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    #519
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,525 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Wurzelbert wrote: »
    i think what may well be unique about isis is the combination of absolute brutality and unrestrained sadism with total cynicism and a keen sense of publicity...even the ss did not send live broadcasts from the gas chambers...

    The technology wasn't around then ;)


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    #520
    Wurzelbert
    Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    The technology wasn't around then ;)

    radio was...as was tv in its infancy...


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    #521
    ireland.man
    Registered Users Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭ireland.man


    Boristhebeast wrote: »
    All civilised nations that want to end this joke of an Islamic state should contribute elite troops to an international division of soldiers dedicated to the annihilation of Islamic extremism, these soldiers should operate outside the rules of engagement and answer only to a select council chosen from the contributing nations. Operating from a permanent military base strategically placed in the middle east, these soldiers will hunt down and kill the scum without any fear of legal repercussions. Any means necessary, gloves off, call it what you will it is the only way to defeat Daesh militarily.

    Anyone else reading this to the tune of the A Team?


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    #522
    Boristhebeast
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭Boristhebeast


    People that try and defend the actions of daesh should be stripped of their respective citizenships and express shipped out to the middle east to live with their extremist comrades


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    #523
    ireland.man
    Registered Users Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭ireland.man


    Boristhebeast wrote: »
    People that try and defend the actions of daesh should be stripped of their respective citizenships and express shipped out to the middle east to live with their extremist comrades

    So we help with their recruitment drive?


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    #524
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,525 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Wurzelbert wrote: »
    radio was...as was tv in its infancy...

    How do you stream live gassing of people via radio? It's gas, they didn't scream they breathed in the gas, coughed a few times and then died. :confused:


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    #525
    jobbridge4life
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    Boristhebeast wrote: »
    People that try and defend the actions of daesh should be stripped of their respective citizenships and express shipped out to the middle east to live with their extremist comrades

    So in essence you are establishing a facist military dictatorship operating utterly outside of the law and free to use as much force as it likes in pursuit of its goals...

    My friend perhaps it is you ought to consider relocating to Daesh held territory.


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    #526
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    ireland.man wrote: »
    Anyone else reading this to the tune of the A Team?

    More like Mr Bean irl i would say


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    #527
    Tugboats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    Does anyone here want the Jordanian regime charged with war crimes?


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    #528
    ireland.man
    Registered Users Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭ireland.man


    Tugboats wrote: »
    Does anyone here want the Jordan regime charged with war crimes?

    Nothing to see here, move along folks...


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    #529
    Tugboats
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    ireland.man wrote: »
    Nothing to see here, move along folks...

    Hey? They are bombing cities in Syria? Is this ok?


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    #530
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,525 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Tugboats wrote: »
    Does anyone here want the Jordanian regime charged with war crimes?

    Why would they? Not sure where you are coming from here?


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    #531
    ireland.man
    Registered Users Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭ireland.man


    Tugboats wrote: »
    Does anyone here want the Jordanian regime charged with war crimes?

    Would you be a supporter of the Jordan regime or see it as more of a hindrance to Western interests?


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    #532
    Wurzelbert
    Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Wurzelbert


    Dog of Tears wrote: »
    Cool.
    Then Hollywood could make a movie out of it.

    hollywood will, hollywood will...only a question of time...


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    #533
    Tugboats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    ireland.man wrote: »
    Would you be a supporter of the Jordan regime or see it as more of a hindrance to Western interests?

    I'm not a supporter of any regime I'm just confused why hundreds of thousands of Irish people have all of a sudden turned their back on the victims of conflict in the middle east


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    #534
    ireland.man
    Registered Users Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭ireland.man


    Tugboats wrote: »
    I'm not a supporter of any regime I'm just confused why hundreds of thousands of Irish people have all of a sudden turned their back on the victims of conflict in the middle east

    Do you care about those victims?


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    #535
    Tugboats
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    ireland.man wrote: »
    Do you care about those victims?

    I don't but i never had their back or cared in the first place. I never took part in anti war protests. The hundreds of thousands who voiced their anger over Iraq and Afghanistan now appear not to have much to say as warplanes from Jordan bombed Iraq last night and Syria this morning:confused:


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    #536
    ireland.man
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    Tugboats wrote: »
    I don't but i never had their back or cared in the first place. I never took part in anti war protests. The hundreds of thousands who voiced their anger over Iraq and Afghanistan now appear not to have much to say as warplanes from Jordan bombed Iraq last night and Syria this morning:confused:

    You say you don't care about those victims. Fair enough but you do care a lot about the anti-war crowd, their motives and whether they're consistent in their convictions or not. Why!?!

    If I didn't care about a political issue I wouldn't spend days non-stop posting comments about it. Even a troll spending days trying to get a rise out of people would probably have some significant personality issues, issues around loneliness, social detachment, etc.

    Happy, confident people don't spend a huge amount of their time online berating others trying to rile them up, especially on an issue to which they admit they have little emotional attachment.


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    #537
    Tugboats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    ireland.man wrote: »
    You say you don't care about those victims. Fair enough but you do care a lot about the anti-war crowd, their motives and whether they're consistent in their convictions or not. Why!?!

    If I didn't care about a political issue I wouldn't spend days non-stop posting comments about it. Even a troll spending days trying to get a rise out of people would probably have some significant personality issues, issues around loneliness, social detachment, etc.

    Happy, confident people don't spend a huge amount of their time online berating others trying to rile them up, especially on an issue to which they admit they have little emotional attachment.

    The real people with issues are the thousands who used victims of war for a day out in fancy dress when it was fashionable to do a bit of Dubya bashing. Where are they today and why are they silent? But of course you want answer that question


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    #538
    ireland.man
    Registered Users Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭ireland.man


    Tugboats wrote: »
    The real people with issues are the thousands who used victims of war for a day out in fancy dress when it was fashionable to do a bit of Dubya bashing. Where are they today and why are they silent? But of course you want answer that question

    Have you been to Ireland recently?


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    #539
    Tugboats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    ireland.man wrote: »
    Have you been to Ireland recently?

    Yes but i don't understand the point of that question


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    #540
    ireland.man
    Registered Users Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭ireland.man


    Tugboats wrote: »
    Yes but i don't understand the point of that question

    Sorry, let me ask properly.

    Are you talking about the lack of an anti-war movement in your country, or in Ireland? I can see an active anti-war movement in Ireland which is involved in this issue around ISIS, particularly in relation to giving support to the Kurds, having Kurdish political figures give talks here, etc.

    Do you see any similar movement in your country compared to how intense it was during the protests in 2003?

    There's a gulf between the cultures of liberals in America and the ones here in Europe.


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    #541
    Tugboats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    ireland.man wrote: »
    Sorry, let me ask properly.

    Are you talking about the lack of an anti-war movement in your country, or in Ireland? I can see an active anti-war movement in Ireland which is involved in this issue around ISIS, particularly in relation to giving support to the Kurds, having Kurdish political figures give talks here, etc.

    Do you see any similar movement in your country compared to how intense it was during the protests in 2003?

    There's a gulf between the cultures of liberals in America and the ones here in Europe.

    I'm Irish dude. Hundreds of thousands took to the streets of Ireland in 2003 i think it was. I'm not seeing that public anger now. I dont think you can compare a lecture or meeting to that level of "support"


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