Georgian style house for new build

digzy

Calibos wrote: »

Dermot brought his home owners to the Sligo gaff in the third Photo on Room to Improve the other night.

I was watching that the other night too. I can't think of anything more depressing than sitting out in that room when the rain is pissing down! I know it's a personal taste thing but if the weather is good I'd like to think I'd so something constructive like mowing the lawn or going for a walk etc... I'd go nuts trying to read a paper in that glass room, either the sun would blind you or the rain would piss me off. Those seats don't look too comfy either. Like something in my little lads crèche.

Regarding the terrace on the programme, my architect mentioned something like that, where we could go outside of an evening and watch a movie! Which would be fantastic in a nice climate, but it rains here a fair amount and if not it's too cold to be out in something like that....and as for the fire.....if you need to stick on the fire to heat up I can't think of a less energy efficient way to do it. I'd rather be inside.

Really liked the look of the work by those nordy designers. At last I can take something to my architect.

sydthebeat

digzy wrote: »

I was watching that the other night too. I can't think of anything more depressing than sitting out in that room when the rain is pissing down!.

but sitting endlessly under a fluorescent light is MUCH better for you :rolleyes:

The general impression is that it rains quite a lot of the time in Ireland, but two out of three hourly observations will not report any measurable rainfall.

from met eireann

digzy

sydthebeat wrote: »

but sitting endlessly under a fluorescent light is MUCH better for you :rolleyes:


from met eireann

Just like in fight club! Mmmm

Where did I mention fluorescent light? Grow up

sydthebeat

digzy wrote: »

Just like in fight club!

just offering you facts... you can lead a horse to water etc

digzy

sydthebeat wrote: »

just offering you facts... you can lead a horse to water etc

when you go to a restaurant does the waiter/waitress take your order or do you let the chef pick what you eat........;)

sydthebeat

digzy wrote: »

when you go to a restaurant does the waiter/waitress take your order or do you let the chef pick what you eat........;)

some people will go to a restaurant and always order steak, other people are adventurous.
like i have said, "people want what they know"....

Strolling Bones

digzy wrote: »

when you go to a restaurant does the waiter/waitress take your order or do you let the chef pick what you eat........;)

First time I visted a Chinese restaraunt , Greek , Indian and Thai I choose AFTER listening to the waiter.

In fairness - you know what you want.

BryanF

digzy wrote: »

Grow up

please attack the post not the poster, thank you

BarneyMc

I'm probably opening myself up to some digs (please be kind folks!) but here's the house I'm building: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=91086713&postcount=1755

The south elevation is around to the right and has a lot of glazing. I've tried to re-create a farmhouse but with some modern design on the hidden side.

mrcheez

OP have you thought about the style of houses in the Georgian Village, Castleknock, Dublin?

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/159-georgian-village-castleknock-dublin-15/1876070

Might be more modern than you are looking for.

To be honest I don't follow why everyone is against your desire to build in the classical style which I particularly like myself. Boards forums tend to be cliquey anyway, so they'll all support each other's viewpoints regardless.

The modern houses on display here in this thread look cold and sterile.


EDIT: I take it you've already decided on a design anyway at this point as this thread is several months old.

sydthebeat

Ive been following your build barney and think it looks great, because of the details that were considered.

Like a true palladian irish farmhouse you have no think overhanging eaves, no thick fascias.
Your windows are vertical in emphasis, and you seem to have used a thick framed window (think its timber)
youve kept the main plan narrow form which means you could use a steeper pitch roof, again a reflection of a traditional farmhouse.
your proportions are very good too.


faux georgian deep plan houses have to have shallower pitches, wider windows to get light deeper into rooms, and use "cover up" details such as wide over hangs and thick plastic eaves.

digzy

sydthebeat wrote: »

some people will go to a restaurant and always order steak, other people are adventurous.
like i have said, "people want what they know"....

i reckon i'd get over a sh1tty main course a bit faster than a revolting house:pac:

Seriously, how many times a year can you see use being made of the 'terrace'?
Fair enough if you're the kind of people that host parties and make use of a bbq. I'm not...

sydthebeat

mrcheez wrote: »

OP have you thought about the style of houses in the Georgian Village, Castleknock, Dublin?

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/159-georgian-village-castleknock-dublin-15/1876070

thats horrific

and would have no place in a rural setting

mrcheez

It's a starting point...

digzy

mrcheez wrote: »

OP have you thought about the style of houses in the Georgian Village, Castleknock, Dublin?

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/159-georgian-village-castleknock-dublin-15/1876070

Might be more modern than you are looking for.

To be honest I don't follow why everyone is against your desire to build in the classical style which I particularly like myself. Boards forums tend to be cliquey anyway, so they'll all support each other's viewpoints regardless.

The modern houses on display here in this thread look cold and sterile.


EDIT: I take it you've already decided on a design anyway at this point as this thread is several months old.

agree with your general thrust but that house is awful!

Strolling Bones

BarneyMc wrote: »

The south elevation is around to the right and has a lot of glazing. I've tried to re-create a farmhouse but with some modern design on the hidden side.

Can you send a pic of





( the Far Side)

( not being smart just trying lighten the mood )

DOCARCH

sydthebeat wrote: »

Like a true palladian georgian irish farmhouse you have no think overhanging eaves, no thick fascias.

Just helped you out there. Palladian style typically has a portico of some way, shape or form. It may simply be a 'triangular' shape to the facade, or a full blown portico, with columns.

sydthebeat

digzy wrote: »

i reckon i'd get over a sh1tty main course a bit faster than a revolting house:pac:

Seriously, how many times a year can you see use being made of the 'terrace'?
Fair enough if you're the kind of people that host parties and make use of a bbq. I'm not...

and thats fair enough,
once youve been challenged on your views and youve experienced the opposite view.... so you make an informed decision

but unfortunately there are 100,000s of houses in this country that bear no reflecting to their location and orientation

sydthebeat

DOCARCH wrote: »

Just helped you out there. Palladian style typically has a portico of some way, shape or form. It may simply be a 'triangular' shape to the facade, or a full blown portico, with columns.

when im referring to palladian im talking about the principles, not the specific features. Im talking about balance and rhythm and simplicity.

Strolling Bones

sydthebeat wrote: »

Ive been following your build barney and think it looks great, because of the details that were considered.

agreed but @ BarneyMc

I swear I am not saying this to be mean - but do you not regret that the style you choose (well executed) screens off so much of that lovely afternnon sun from the front of house internally

BarneyMc

Strolling Bones wrote: »

agreed but @ BarneyMc

I swear I am not saying this to be mean - but do you not regret that the style you choose (well executed) screens off so much of that lovely afternnon sun from the front of house internally

The house faces west so it's the late evening sun that hits the front. There are 3 main living areas and all have a south facade. The main sitting room also gets the late evening sun as well as the afternoon (2 windows south facing and one west facing). I'll post a pic of the south facade later.

mrcheez

digzy wrote: »

agree with your general thrust but that house is awful!

Just first idea that came to mind, mate of mine grew up in one of those and they actually look quite nice when standing outside.

Are you looking more for something like this?

Strolling Bones

I can not deny that is lovely.

But I would not build it new for myself.

digzy

Strolling Bones wrote: »

I can not deny that is lovely.

But I would not build it new for myself.

+1 lovely spot.

Have to say the properties on the northern irish architect web page looked fantastic.

Without wanting to sound like a knob, I've a large budget so I intend going with over 3000 sq ft.

DOCARCH

digzy wrote: »

Without wanting to sound like a knob, I've a large budget so I intend going with over 3000 sq ft.

....where you based?

I hope you've €420K (+)

BarneyMc

digzy wrote: »

Without wanting to sound like a knob, I've a large budget so I intend going with over 3000 sq ft.

Building big because you've a big bubget or because you want a big house and can afford it?

digzy

BarneyMc wrote: »

Building big because you've a big bubget or because you want a big house and can afford it?

Both!

BarneyMc

Strolling Bones wrote: »

Can you send a pic of



( the Far Side)

( not being smart just trying lighten the mood )

Here's my far side plus bonus side!

antiskeptic

mrcheez wrote: »

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/159-georgian-village-castleknock-dublin-15/1876070


To be honest I don't follow why everyone is against your desire to build in the classical style

To my mind one can "build in the classical style" in one of two ways.

They can take what is right about the classical style and maybe add to it by way of modern need - respecting the fact that they don't know it all and are unlikely to be able to overturn a not-insubstantial amount of architectural evolution which led to the style having the attraction it has.

High ceilings are a case in point: not expensive to build and adding a proportionality-beneficial volumicity (if I might coin a phrase)

Then there's your link..

mrcheez

You do realise I was using that as an initial example rather a final build suggestion don't you, to aid the OP rather than shoot him down as 99% of posts in this thread seem to be trying? Hence why I suggested a second style once he decided against the first suggestion.

I've actually never encountered a forum so replete with snobs, an example of the worsts of boards, sorry I decided to post here

sydthebeat

mrcheez wrote: »

I've actually never encountered a forum so replete with snobs, an example of the worsts of boards, sorry I decided to post here

thats a huge irish problem, to think that good design and architecture (or in anything at all) is limited to "snobs" :rolleyes:

god forbid anyone tries to better themselves, theyd be shot down with good old irish begrudgery.

BryanF

mrcheez wrote: »

You do realise I was using that as an initial example rather a final build suggestion don't you, to aid the OP rather than shoot him down as 99% of posts in this thread seem to be trying? Hence why I suggested a second style once he decided against the first suggestion.

I've actually never encountered a forum so replete with snobs, an example of the worsts of boards, sorry I decided to post here

Are defending the link you posted? having a rant at the entire forum because a post had the audacity to intimate that a house was (my words) a mismatch of styles with fake glazing bars/corner corbels/ classsical colums/ questionalable proportions etc

This post just aided the 'snobs' here with another example of mock Georgian design - but in fairness, at least that house is in Dublin suburbia and not plonked in a field in rural Ireland.

mod note: please Attack the post not the poster/thread/forum. Thank you

893bet

sydthebeat wrote: »

thats a huge irish problem, to think that good design and architecture (or in anything at all) is limited to "snobs" :rolleyes:

god forbid anyone tries to better themselves, theyd be shot down with good old irish begrudgery.

Very true. Reverse snobbery is more of an issue in day to day life.

You have to admit there is an underlying culture here from those "in the know" of ridiculing "newbies". Sure they may offer advice but not before making the OP feel stupid when the only mistake the "newbie" had made is being raised in a an old Irish house and not being aware of the alternatives.

Strolling Bones

No. Many - not all - "newbies" seem to expect to gain expert advice for free.

Strolling Bones

There is never any accounting for taste

digzy

Strolling Bones wrote: »

No. Many - not all - "newbies" seem to expect to gain expert advice for free.

Don't worry. I wouldn't class you as an expert:rolleyes:

BryanF

digzy wrote: »

Don't worry. I wouldn't class you as an expert:rolleyes:

Digzy
Has your op been answered, can we close this thread?

digzy

BryanF wrote: »

Digzy
Has your op been answered, can we close this thread?

Sure let the condesension continue.....you've ignored it so far:eek:

It's actually bizarre how a simple query re suggestions for magazines/design books turns into a sh1te fest. I didn't recall posting "I like a style of house, criticise my taste". It's bizarre how much time the "experts" have on their hands....

I'm off to build my big fcuk off house......cheerio

893bet

Strolling Bones wrote: »

No. Many - not all - "newbies" seem to expect to gain expert advice for free.

Some perhaps but it's easy ignore them and just don't comment on their threads.

If I had stuck with the expert advice that I paid for I would be building a house with 100mm cavity and an insulated slab. No AT strategy and 100mm vents in all rooms. So basically a house that didn't meet regs in anyway. But this is how most people do it my architect assured me.

I approached 7 or 8 local engineers and they all looked like I had two heads when mentioning a 250mm cavity.

The real is issue is half of the experts that you pay advice for don't have a clue about recent regs.

BryanF

digzy wrote: »

Sure let the condesension continue.....you've ignored it so far:eek:

It's actually bizarre how a simple query re suggestions for magazines/design books turns into a sh1te fest. I didn't recall posting "I like a style of house, criticise my taste". It's bizarre how much time the "experts" have on their hands....

I'm off to build my big fcuk off house......cheerio

As you wish, Thread closed