LOI Talk, Rumors, Gossip, Transfers etc 2015

djpbarry

topmanamillion wrote: »

Scotland wont do it because there is no benefit bringing in more Motherwells, Hamilton and Patrick Thistle type teams, all it does is drain resources from the Premier.
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Even the Swiss league which has enjoyed great European success with Young Boys and Basel still only has 10 teams in the league.

To be fair, Scotland and Switzerland have far more pro/semi-pro teams than Ireland has, so they’re not really comparable. And personally, I really don’t agree with the current formula for Scottish football, which is largely born out of politics rather than logic – what’s the point in having four small divisions like that?

With regard to Ireland though, as said several times before, the current model in Northern Ireland is the way to go. Have one small top division, with a proper pyramid structure below. So, technically, the league will consist of a single division, with an intermediate first division, linking to the junior leagues. It won’t happen any time soon, but I think it’s the only rational way forward.

dreamers75

Darren Kelly has a fan club


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3069122/Oldham-feel-heat-new-boss-Darren-Kelly-hails-former-IRA-chief-Martin-McGuinness-legend.html

Good old Daily mail

dfx-

Bray has to be everyone's favourite draw in the FAI Cup draw today...even moreso than Cabinteely on that pitch

DvB

dfx- wrote: »

Bray has to be everyone's favourite draw in the FAI Cup draw today...even moreso than Cabinteely on that pitch

wouldnt say no to shels @ home myself... or for personal reasons St Mochtas.

uch

dfx- wrote: »

Bray has to be everyone's favourite draw in the FAI Cup draw today...even moreso than Cabinteely on that pitch

I'd love to see how Dundalk would handle that pitch, not a bleedin chance of playing their free flowing football on it. :P

Darkglasses

I want Drogs or Sligo away, last two grounds I need to visit.

dfx-

uch wrote: »

I'd love to see how Dundalk would handle that pitch, not a bleedin chance of playing their free flowing football on it. :P

but a more predictable bounce:pac:

Hammer Archer

FAI Cup Round 2 Draw
Tolka Rovers v Waterford United
Dundalk v Shelbourne
Athlone Town v Liffey Wanderers
Cobh Wanderers v Avondale United
Edenderry Town v Derry City
Longford Town v Finn Harps
Cockhill Celtic v St Mochtas
Wexford Youths v Cork City
Galway United v North End United
Killester United v Cobh Ramblers
UCD v Sheriff
St Patrick's Athletic v Shamrock Rovers
Bohemians v Firhouse Clover
Sligo Rovers v Crumlin United
Bray Wanderers v Limerick
Drogheda United v Cabinteely

Decent chance for us to reach the third round against Sheriff. Though I've honestly no idea what they're like.
At least two non leaguers in the third round with Cockhill Celtic v St. Mochtas and Cobh Wanderers v Avondale.

Darkglasses

Time for annual reunion with Cork. Wish it was away though

kksaints

Nice first match as defending cup champions after so long.

Wilberto

kksaints wrote: »

Nice first match as defending cup champions after so long.

It'll be nice for the rest of us to see one of ye gone after this round though!

dreamers75

Wilberto wrote: »

It'll be nice for the rest of us to see one of ye gone after this round though!

Cold dead hands..................

Wilberto

dreamers75 wrote: »

Cold dead hands..................

...with pleasure!

Gavin "shels"

Fairly delighted I won't be making our match up in Dundalk (unless they play it Saturday).

Croly to Bray tomorrow it seems.

dreamers75

LOI fans we must do our bit and ensure we all vote for the same team!!!

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/league started 2 months ago yeah?

civis_liberalis

What a weird competition. 5 grand would do feck all for most grounds.

Darkglasses

civis_liberalis wrote: »

What a weird competition. 5 grand would do feck all for most grounds.

How much did Bray claim to spend on their dugouts again? :pac:

MonkstownHoop

Darkglasses wrote: »

How much did Bray claim to spend on their dugouts again? :pac:

5 million!

Oat23

It has been confirmed that the league is getting an extra EL spot for fair play. UCD will be in the EL next season

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=2244170.html?rss=2244170+Netherlands,+England,+Ireland+get+Fair+Play+bonus

wadacrack

UCD will be playing in the Europa League qualifiers. The Ultra's are buzzing in Belfield.

A_Sober_Paddy

wadacrack wrote: »

UCD will be playing in the Europa League qualifiers. The Ultra's are buzzing in Belfield.

I'd imagine a lot of loi supporters from other clubs will go to the ucd game, which will be played in tallaght I'd imagine as bellfield won't be allowed hold European games

wadacrack

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

I'd imagine a lot of loi supporters from other clubs will go to the ucd game, which will be played in tallaght I'd imagine as bellfield won't be allowed hold European games

I think Derry City should play in the EL instead of UCD, no point in sending a 1st division side to Europe.

Oat23

wadacrack wrote: »

I think Derry City should play in the EL instead of UCD, no point in sending a 1st division side to Europe.

No way. The league was rewarded the place because of fair play, it should go to the team who topped our fair play league.

A_Sober_Paddy

wadacrack wrote: »

I think Derry City should play in the EL instead of UCD, no point in sending a 1st division side to Europe.

They are there based on their fair play, and every team at the start of the year knows thats what could happen...so ucd will probably get hockied but they are there because they are the least dirty/scummy team in the league structure...both on the field and off as they are both scored

doncarlos

Oat23 wrote: »

No way. The league was rewarded the place because of fair play, it should go to the team who topped our fair play league.

It should go to the team that topped the fair play league that is still in the highest division. Sending UCD to play in Europe will put a dent in the coefficient which could affect other teams chances of being seeded.

UCD finished third in fair play league after Dundalk and Cork.

SteelyDanJalapeno

wadacrack wrote: »

I think Derry City should play in the EL instead of UCD, no point in sending a 1st division side to Europe.

Get out of it, UCD earned the place

Omackeral

wadacrack wrote: »

UCD will be playing in the Europa League qualifiers. The Ultra's are Ultra is buzzing in Belfield.

That's more like it.

wadacrack

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Get out of it, UCD earned the place

They arent upto to it. It wont look good for Irish football. A team getting hammered. Derry City could progress and hep our co-efficient

SteelyDanJalapeno

wadacrack wrote: »

They arent upto to it. It wont look good for Irish football. A team getting hammered. Derry City could progress and hep our co-efficient

Or maybe the 120k they will get now for participating will help them be more competitive going forward?

Paz-CCFC

National co-efficients aren't hugely important for club seedings as they used to be. With the system since 2009 of club co-efficients for each qualifer, the individual performances of the clubs have a much bigger bearing. In the last five years, 0.4 is the most that the national co-efficients count towards the club rankings. If Dundalk get knocked out in their opening tie, they get 1 point. Europa League clubs who get knocked out in the opening round get 0.25. The national rankings only really matter for what round the teams start in. With UEFA's continued preference to have the bigger teams going straight into the groups and push smaller teams back, we don't have much of a chance of ever having a team starting in the 2nd round. Before they closed off so many places, we had teams starting in the 2nd and the 3rd round.

The Fair Play system is changing from next year onwards, anyway. Instead of an extra Europa League spot, the national association will be given prize money to put behind the bar at an away international donate to an amateur or professional club of their choice.

Captain Havoc

UCD are there on merit, telling them they can't play in Europe would be some shifting of the goalposts.

dfx-

wadacrack wrote: »

They arent upto to it. It wont look good for Irish football. A team getting hammered. Derry City could progress and hep our co-efficient

Derry are very poor this season too...so are Sligo...

GLaDOS

dfx- wrote: »

Derry are very poor this season too...so are Sligo...

Bohs are doing well

LoonyLovegood

It's completely and utterly ridiculous, but them's the rules. I'd hope a decent crowd would turn out to Belfield to support them.

Pinturicchio

LoonyLovegood wrote: »

It's completely and utterly ridiculous, but them's the rules. I'd hope a decent crowd would turn out to Belfield to support them.

There isn't a hope of the game being played in Belfield.

dreamers75

Pinturicchio wrote: »

There isn't a hope of the game being played in Belfield.

UEFA kinda make up their own rules about stadiums.

Pats not allowed 3rd rounds games but this place is fine.

djpbarry

UCD still have to meet the necessary licensing requirements in order to compete in the EL.

dan1895

dreamers75 wrote: »

UEFA kinda make up their own rules about stadiums.

Pats not allowed 3rd rounds games but this place is fine.

At least Belfield has a bit of a roof or is that cliff face over the stand on the right what counts as covered seating these days.

Oat23

doncarlos wrote: »

It should go to the team that topped the fair play league that is still in the highest division. Sending UCD to play in Europe will put a dent in the coefficient which could affect other teams chances of being seeded.

UCD finished third in fair play league after Dundalk and Cork.

And if Dundalk or Cork had not already qualified, then they would deserve the place. But since they are already qualified for Europe, UCD are the next team to make the biggest contribution to Ireland finishing 3rd in the fair play rankings and are deserving of the Euro spot.

MD1990

Don't think UCD are deserving. They only get 150 to there games.

SteelyDanJalapeno

MD1990 wrote: »

Don't think UCD are deserving. They only get 150 to there games.

It's not based on attendance?

MD1990

TiltedBrain wrote: »

It's not based on attendance?

I know that but there crowds are a disgrace. Not deserving of European football as they are in the 1st division too & finished 3rd in the Fair Play standings.

wadacrack

MD1990 wrote: »

I know that but there crowds are a disgrace. Not deserving of European football as they are in the 1st division too & finished 3rd in the Fair Play standings.

Their could be trouble at the bowl on European night, no college during the summer the students could be mad

Captain Havoc

wadacrack wrote: »

Their could be trouble at the bowl on European night, no college during the summer the students could be mad

Be grand, they'll still be in it when college starts up again.

ionadnapokot

dreamers75 wrote: »

UEFA kinda make up their own rules about stadiums.

Pats not allowed 3rd rounds games but this place is fine.

Yea its completely unfaroe

To Elland Back

Looks a lovely surface in fairness and much larger than Salthill Devon's pitch

doncarlos

Oat23 wrote: »

And if Dundalk or Cork had not already qualified, then they would deserve the place. But since they are already qualified for Europe, UCD are the next team to make the biggest contribution to Ireland finishing 3rd in the fair play rankings and are deserving of the Euro spot.

UCD didn't make any contribution, domestic matches have no impact.

Oat23

doncarlos wrote: »

UCD didn't make any contribution, domestic matches have no impact.

All these years I've thought it was judged on league games.

The_Kew_Tour

So did I actually.

GLaDOS

djpbarry wrote: »

UCD still have to meet the necessary licensing requirements in order to compete in the EL.

Is this something likely to be an issue? I've no idea what is needed to get said license.