Chelsea Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16

hullaballoo

Don't like that at all but we've been blessed with Samsung for the past 7 years with the sleek logo.

Still it's worth it for the money in the deal.

Crann na Beatha

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hullaballoo

The GK kit is hideous.

GavRedKing

I'm surprised actually at the GK one, we should have went full green on it IMO, that shade isnt great at all, although last years yellow was a bit ****e IMO.

GavRedKing

hullaballoo wrote: »

Don't like that at all but we've been blessed with Samsung for the past 7 years with the sleek logo.

Still it's worth it for the money in the deal.

Ya, the 40m a year is pretty nice TBH.

I just wish we had good players from the 40m a yeat signed to pose in said shirt.

Unless Roman is saving under his large sofa for the stadium build which is down for about 500m but if its done for anything under 750m I'd be shocked.

grumpymunster

So it seems Cuadrado going nowhere after been given the #11 shirt

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/7/16/8978243/juan-cuadrado-new-chelsea-squad-number-11-change-confirmed

GavRedKing

grumpymunster wrote: »

So it seems Cuadrado going nowhere after been given the #11 shirt

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/7/16/8978243/juan-cuadrado-new-chelsea-squad-number-11-change-confirmed

Well.....bo**ocks to that.

Salah is surely out the door so. More of a market for him given his price we can still make a profit on his original transfer.

Panthro

Cuadrado might have a bit more end product about him compared to Salah.
Salah has the speed of a whippet but the brain of a headless chicken.

GavRedKing

Panthro wrote: »

Cuadrado might have a bit more end product about him compared to Salah.
Salah has the speed of a whippet but the brain of a headless chicken.

I think both are pretty headless but Cuadrado was coming from a better league and off a good WC, there was more expected from him.

GavRedKing

32m for Benteke....jaysus.

We got serious value last year with selling Lukaku for 28m and signing Costa for 32m.

hots

GavRedKing wrote: »

32m for Benteke....jaysus.

We got serious value last year with selling Lukaku for 28m and signing Costa for 32m.

Yup Costa was a bargain in comparison... Could see benteke doing well but would be more suited to a man u lone striker than a Liverpool one imo. Could be interesting when sturridge is fit, two very different options.

peteeeed

GavRedKing wrote: »

Well.....bo**ocks to that.

Salah is surely out the door so. More of a market for him given his price we can still make a profit on his original transfer.

Ill give him another season . Plenty of good Chelsea players has crap first seasons

GavRedKing

hots wrote: »

Yup Costa was a bargain in comparison... Could see benteke doing well but would be more suited to a man u lone striker than a Liverpool one imo. Could be interesting when sturridge is fit, two very different options.

As an option hes a good one, he did have a massive purple patch under Tim though that he didnt have under Lambert, in fact under Lambert he was terrible.

GavRedKing

peteeeed wrote: »

Ill give him another season . Plenty of good Chelsea players has crap first seasons

oh I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now, moving countries in January is a big ask and to be succesful too is rare, bar Aguero but hes a freak.

kev1.3s

Just bought the keeper kit for the little lad, got a bit sick in my mouth but he seems to like it anyway.

JPA

GavRedKing wrote: »

As an option hes a good one, he did have a massive purple patch under Tim though that he didnt have under Lambert, in fact under Lambert he was terrible.

He was last season but Lambert signed him and he scored 23 goals in his first season.

GavRedKing

JPA wrote: »

He was last season but Lambert signed him and he scored 23 goals in his first season.

I was alluding to last season. Villa were poison under lambert last year for large parts anyway and he was only back from injury too. I think hes a good cf but not sure if Id want him with us and for that price but it aint my money and.good luck to him wherever he ends up.

GavRedKing

Few from training today.

Begovic



Cesc, Jose, RLC



JT



Jose, Diego, Moses, Mikel, Ivanovic, Ramires



Dave and Oscar



Remy facing JT



Hazard vs Mikel



Full squad list that travelled is

Thibaut Courtois, Asmir Begovic, Jamal Blackman, Cesar Azpilicueta, Branislav Ivanovic, Ola Aina, Gary Cahill, John Terry, Kurt Zouma, Jake Clarke-Salter, Nemanja Matic, John Mikel Obi, Nathaniel Chalobah, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Ramires, Cesc Fabregas, Oscar, Eden Hazard, Bertrand Traore, Victor Moses, Loic Remy, Diego Costa and Dominic Solanke

GavRedKing

Oh and Kenedy is out there too :pac:

Lukker-

Looks like Moses will be in the squad next year so.

RichT

I'm no photographer, but I wonder if the snapper behind the new kit shoot is responsible for the resounding 'mehness' reaction to the new shirt.

Here's a behind the scene video of the new kit shoot. The shirt seems much nicer 'live' so to speak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr3YQofp5lw

hots

Who made Jose wear his pyjamas to training? Not a fan at all

hots

Also is it just me or do all the kits in the promo shots look really baggy? These guys are all ripped, surely something a bit more fitted no?

Meglamonia

Everton reject 20 million bid for john stones from chelsea according to sky sources.

Sheepy99

That's more like it. Get him and a midfielder of some sort and then the transfer business can settle down.

GavRedKing

The problem with me about Stones is hes in a vastly stupid bracket where prices can get crazy. Hes Young, English and Talented.

3 buzz words when trying to accurately value someones worth. I'd reckon 20m is the upper of what he'd go for, seemingly not though, if we paid over 25m for him I'd be annoyed.

Zoum awho is every bit as good IMO cost about £12m, himself and Stones are give or take a few months, the same age. Having both would be brillian but having two very talented CBs on the books at 21, meanings anyone coming through the youth setup has f**k all chance of getting a game.

rottie 11

We should go all out for stones imo. Wed be sorted for CB for a decade with himself and zouma. Terry will be retiring soon and cahil is pushing on aswel. Would be nice to get it sorted out

GavRedKing

We've Christansen and Ake both looking to play too, I'd like stones but that price is too much IMO.

Christansen is the one I'm expecting big things from anyway.

peteeeed

GavRedKing wrote: »

We've Christansen and Ake both looking to play too, I'd like stones but that price is too much IMO.

Christansen is the one I'm expecting big things from anyway.

kalas too

http://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest-news/2015/07/kalas-in-boro-loan.html

GavRedKing

Luis back to Atletico is gathering pace on twitter.

Sheepy99

Any sources? I'm not in the know at all when it comes to twitter related news

peteeeed

bbc

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33566570

GavRedKing

Sheepy99 wrote: »

Any sources? I'm not in the know at all when it comes to twitter related news

peteeeed wrote: »

bbc

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33566570

Just came to post that, the original quote was apparently run by a Spanish paper.

hots

peteeeed wrote: »

bbc

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33566570

Would be fine with that if we recoup some of the fee, we overpaid completely there. Could easily see yougsters doing a job there if necessary, especially as all of our young cbs seem to get pushed to fullback anyway.

GavRedKing

2 & 2 making 4, we've been linked again with the young fullback in Germany, Baba Rahman.

Would probably cost what we'd get for Luis.

hots

GavRedKing wrote: »

2 & 2 making 4, we've been linked again with the young fullback in Germany, Baba Rahman.

Would probably cost what we'd get for Luis.

Would imagine a few €€€s more but well worth it I think, would much rather we have a kid for the future sit for a year behind Ivan and Azp ready for Azp to shift over or for us to be stocked for the next 6/7 years at lb...

If we were to sign this chap and Stones that would be a really exciting backline for the foreseeable future and a massive turnaround from our current well-worn backline

GavRedKing

hots wrote: »

Would imagine a few €€€s more but well worth it I think, would much rather we have a kid for the future sit for a year behind Ivan and Azp ready for Azp to shift over or for us to be stocked for the next 6/7 years at lb...

If we were to sign this chap and Stones that would be a really exciting backline for the foreseeable future and a massive turnaround from our current well-worn backline

Ive hope that Jay Dasilva will make it with us too, hes pretty exciting going forward but defensively hes still a bit green, hes only young so I'd imagine if he trained with the 1st team for a few months at least Jose could try and influence him a bit more and see if he has what it takes at the very elite level of the game.

I reckon if he doesnt make it with us Dasilva will be like Bertrand and still have a good career....oh and maybe even a UCL medal :pac:

hots

GavRedKing wrote: »

Ive hope that Jay Dasilva will make it with us too, hes pretty exciting going forward but defensively hes still a bit green, hes only young so I'd imagine if he trained with the 1st team for a few months at least Jose could try and influence him a bit more and see if he has what it takes at the very elite level of the game.

I reckon if he doesnt make it with us Dasilva will be like Bertrand and still have a good career....oh and maybe even a UCL medal :pac:

I'd definitely take a UCL medal and a career elsewhere! As with Bertrand, only fond memories and well-wishes away from the Bridge

Was Aina the other young LB that was looking good in the youth cups this year?

peteeeed

diego can do it all

https://twitter.com/ChelseaFC/status/622058266726543360

Lukker-

Stones would be a good signing. For no more than £25m though. He has amazing potential and I could really see him maturing under Jose. I'd leave him on loan for a season though.

Very much an eye to the future though. JT has 1 or 2 seasons left max.

hots

Lukker- wrote: »

Stones would be a good signing. For no more than £25m though. He has amazing potential and I could really see him maturing under Jose. I'd leave him on loan for a season though.

Very much an eye to the future though. JT has 1 or 2 seasons left max.

I'd say £25 is a nice price alright, much more than that and you're into seriously big price tags... Thought the same about leaving him on loan but imo he'd be as well off learning from Terry & Cahill and then playing Zouma & Stone in every domestic cup game together... start to build the partnership and keep them learning from the 2 current pros. < all fantasy of course, don't even know if there's been a bid made yet.

Lukker-

Playing Zouma and Stones in the domestic cups is a really good idea. I'd definitely like for him to have 1 season under Terry too. I'd just worry it may hinder Zouma's development when they both could be getting decent game time.

fozz10

on the stones thing, or sterling for that matter. I never heard so much rubbish from people about things like: we shouldnt pay that much or I would want him but not for that much. do people realise ya either want to see a player for a team or not?.. its not our money so why would we care? we have a rich owner so leave em pay what they want for stones. the same for sterling. Its waaaay to much but so what? when a club is in no danger financially it doesnt affect anyone else. If I want to see stones play for chelsea I couldnt care whether we get him free or 50 million. why would i? ffp dont matter so a fan of these rich teams just souunds pretty silly pretending to care about how much we pay.

hots

fozz10 wrote: »

on the stones thing, or sterling for that matter. I never heard so much rubbish from people about things like: we shouldnt pay that much or I would want him but not for that much. do people realise ya either want to see a player for a team or not?.. its not our money so why would we care? we have a rich owner so leave em pay what they want for stones. the same for sterling. Its waaaay to much but so what? when a club is in no danger financially it doesnt affect anyone else. If I want to see stones play for chelsea I couldnt care whether we get him free or 50 million. why would i? ffp dont matter so a fan of these rich teams just souunds pretty silly pretending to care about how much we pay.

Well in a really simple example if we pay 50million for a player only worth 5 million, that 9 players other 5 million players we're missing out on? I get that some people have no interest in it but some do, no different to some people who don't care what kit we're wearing next year or what stadium we'll be playing our games in imo.

Lukker-

It's shortsighted not to be concerned with how much we pay for a player. Teams will hold you over a barrel if they think you have deep pockets. It'll hurt the club in the long run, either by lack of money to spend on toher signings or being unwilling to shell out so much for a player.

Look at United last season. Woodward had little or no guile in market. Every club knew United had money so they continue to pay inflated fees for players.

Crann na Beatha

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kev1.3s

JT26 wrote: »

See ya lads

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brevity

kev1.3s wrote: »

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Politics café.

Crann na Beatha

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brevity

JT26 wrote: »

? Not at all buddy I'm off for a few days I'll be back see ya around

Good stuff