Shooting in Demark

darkpagandeath

Noblong wrote: »

Ofcourse. 'Don't help the yanks' is a nothing messege to the likes of us.

I see, how well did we defend our airspace against them Russian planes ? Or did our neighbours escort them out. Doubt our neighbours would be allowed to help out stop an attack on shannon.

Kev_2012

So that's why the flights were 30 cent...

darkpagandeath

Shurimgreat wrote: »

What exactly would they target in shannon? The duty free shop? A runway? Who?
What sort of political message would it be?

There's no-one in shannon today even remotely linked to the Iraq War.

And stop giving terrorists ideas for goodness sake.

Shannon is an international transit hub.

It was a major hub for the former Soviet Union, even after invading Afghanistan.

Shannons role in any war was negligible. Except for people like you who would like to point signs for terrorists to shannon.

And why on earth do you want to kow tow to terrorists?

yes it is, think your mistaking me for a anti america protestor.

second bold make no sense, or you believe terrorist look at the web/here for ideas ?

Shurimgreat

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I see, how well did we defend our airspace against them Russian planes ? Or did our neighbours escort them out. Doubt our neighbours would be allowed to help out stop an attack on shannon.

So we should do the terrorists bidding now? Next we will all be praying to Mecca five times a day.

The terrorists don't like it, tough. We have democracy here, our government decides who goes through Shannon, not some AK47 waving thugs.

darkpagandeath

Shurimgreat wrote: »

So we should do the terrorists bidding now? Next we will all be praying to Mecca five times a day.

The terrorists don't like it, tough. We have democracy here, our government decides who goes through Shannon, not some AK47 waving thugs.

Who said that ?

Shurimgreat

darkpagandeath wrote: »

yes it is, think your mistaking me for a anti america protestor.

second bold make no sense, or you believe terrorist look at the web/here for ideas ?

They try to make political points around their terrorists actions. Most would have forgotten Shannons massively insignificant role, except some people keep trying to highlight it. You'd swear the role of Shannon helped win the war or something. It was so insignificant as not to be even worth mentioning. My point is some people keep bringing it up and magnifying its role to serve their own anti American agenda.

darkpagandeath

Shurimgreat wrote: »

They try to make political points around their terrorists actions. Most would have forgotten Shannons massively insignificant role, except some people keep trying to highlight it. You'd swear the role of Shannon helped win the war or something. It was so insignificant as not to be even worth mentioning. My point is some people keep bringing it up and magnifying its role to serve their own anti American agenda.

I never have been anti american, was pointing out the area terrorist could attack, for their own agendas or aims. We are not safe, from foreign terrorists.

Shurimgreat

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Who said that ?

People repeatedly say we could become a terrorist target because of the use of shannon.

Take for example this

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/paris-terror-attacks-ireland-warned-4951989

Like I said, terrorists are not the brightest and are easily led. They aren't the most sophisticaed. Generally if you point out a target, hand them a gun or a suicide vest and promise 72 virgins, they target it, no questions asked.

darkpagandeath

Shurimgreat wrote: »

People repeatedly say we could become a terrorist target because of the use of shannon.

Take for example this

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/paris-terror-attacks-ireland-warned-4951989

Like I said, terrorists are not the brightest and are easily led. They aren't the most sophisticaed. Generally if you point out a target, hand them a gun or a suicide vest and promise 72 virgins, they target it, no questions asked.

If that was true we would have no problem, hubris is a horrible mistriss.

Shurimgreat

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I never have been anti american, was pointing out the area terrorist could attack, for their own agendas or aims. We are not safe, from foreign terrorists.

It could but its unlikely to happen because of the hugely insignificant role of Shannon. In other words these people have bigger fish to fry, more obvious targets. They generally do it within easy reach of national broadcasters, newspapers, etc for maximum coverage.

Ireland is a backwater and Shannon an even bigger backwater. They don't operate that way. Most of their attacks are in big capital cities, Paris, Copenhagen, London, Brussels, Sydney, New York (financial capital) Baghdad, and so on. Shannon is not central or important enough for them.

darkpagandeath

Shurimgreat wrote: »

It could but its unlikely to happen because of the hugely insignificant role of Shannon. In other words these people have bigger fish to fry, more obvious targets. They generally do it within easy reach of national broadcasters, newspapers, etc for maximum coverage.

Ireland is a backwater and Shannon and even bigger backwater. They don't operate that way. Most of their attacks are in big capital cities, Paris, Copenhagen, London, Brussels, Sydney, New York (financial capital) Baghdad, and so on. Shannon is not central or important enough for them.

No they don't it's an easy target with easy results. You going to tell that to the 30 off in Isis syria who return home ?

WakeUp

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Agreed, they wouldn't attack here. We're a backwater on the world stage. They always like to go for the spectacular. Targetting centres of power, or icons of free speech. We are nobodies to them, thank goodness. I think we could pretty much say what we like. In any case, there's a strong anti-western feeling in Ireland, so why would they jeopradize that?

Sadly I fear this kind of conflict is going to continue long into the future. No matter how many terrorists are killed, more and more take their place. I do think however the Syrian Civil war played a huge role in radicalising tens of thousands of people. The UNSC and west missed a big opportunity. Having a failed state in the middle of the middle east was always going to have predictable results. These groups deliberately seek out failed states. An orderly transition of power would have prevented all this. Sadly Assad chose otherwise.

Dont think there is any doubt that Syria has played a major role in what we are seeing now. I dont think the west missed a trick I think they miscalculated and phucked it up. or maybe that was by design Im not quite sure. the UNSC is irrelevant to any potential military intervention as the Russians and maybe even China would have and would just veto it. and the Russians sent their ships out there to the port they use with missile defenses when it looked briefly like unilateral action without UNSC consensus might take place. the message being dont even think about it. and they didnt.

Assad is tight with the Iranians in many ways their defense is intertwined Syria was the only friend Iran had during the Iran - Iraq ( west ) war and they will never forget it. no way they were going to stand aside and do nothing. and then you have Russia. so you have to question the wisdom of the west getting involved in Syria for freedumb training the rebels in Jordan and other places and other allied countries arming them against Assad was never going to work only create chaos. and without that training and assistance Assad would have rolled over time in no time at all. the empire along with a number of other countries want Assad gone for their own reasons. realpolitik would dictate they should make a deal with him, the Iranians and Russians and jihadiland in Syria anyways would soon be crushed. Assad is brutal just like Saddam and Gaddafi before him. but he kept a lid on sh1t just like they did. realpolitik 101.

Shurimgreat

darkpagandeath wrote: »

No they don't it's an easy target with easy results.

So why haven't they attacked it then? Waiting for the right moment? Get real. They aren't going to attack it, if they wanted to, they would have already. In any case I am confused. Why would they bother attacking a minor airport that played a minor role in the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, an event they actually benefitted from? As well as that, there just arent enough people in Ireland that can be radicalised by such an event. The muslim community here is too small and relaively moderate. In summary and as my final point in this pointless argument, Shannon is just not important enough for them. They would save their men and resources for more valuable targets.

darkpagandeath

Shurimgreat wrote: »

So why haven't they attacked it then? Waiting for the right moment? Get real. They aren't going to attack it, if they wanted to, they would have already. In any case I am confused. Why would they bother attacking a minor airport that played a minor role in the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, an event they actually benefitted from? As well as that, there just arent enough people in Ireland that can be radicalised by such an event. The muslim community here is too small and relaively moderate. In summary and as my final point in this pointless argument, Shannon is just not important enough for them. They would save their men and resources for more valuable targets.

Shannon is an international transit hub.

Thats all that is needed.

2 mins ago you were saying they were not the brightest make up your mind.

Shurimgreat

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Thats all that is needed.

Like I said before, what exactly is your point here?

I will ask a straight question. The elected Irish government decides who or what passes through Shannon. Are you ok with that?

Or should we change the laws to please terrorists? Do you not understand how weak your argument is?

Or do you actually have a point apart from vague inferences about how we are a target?

My final question is, do you agree only the Irish government should dictate who goes through Shannon? A yes or no answer will do.

darkpagandeath

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Like I said before, what exactly is your point here?

I will ask a straight question. The elected Irish government decides who or what passes through Shannon. Are you ok with that?

Or should we change the laws to please terrorists? Do you not understand how weak your argument is?

Or do you actually have a point apart from vague inferences about how we are a target?

My final question is, do you agree only the Irish government should dictate who goes through Shannon? A yes or no answer will do.

I have 0 problem with that statement. Think you are trying to label me some kind of Shannon protestor.

Would terrorists attack it yes.

Shurimgreat

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I have 0 problem with that statement. Think you are trying to label me some kind of Shannon protestor.

Would terrorists attack it yes.

Its virtually impossible to label you anything because you seem to be for and against the same thing. Rest assured, Shannon is not on their list of targets. However seeing as they like to be centre of attention if you keep highlighting Shannon as this and that, they might change their mind and decide, wait a minute, maybe we should target it. good night.

darkpagandeath

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Its virtually impossible to label you anything because you seem to be for and against the same thing. Rest assured, Shannon is not on their list of targets. However seeing as they like to be centre of attention if you keep highlighting Shannon as this and that, they might change their mind and decide, wait a minute, maybe we should target it. good night.

We need labels now ? thought we could have opinions on issues. And nn.

Overflow

There has been a new shooting reported about an hour ago. Happened outside a Synagogue, 1 dead and 2 injured.

Wompa1

Pffftt...Only in America Europe

Saipanne

Do gooders, please choose your response here:


Guys, cant you all see that this is our fault? []

It's their culture! []

Stop being racist against a belief! []


Tick the box, as appropriate.

bpmurray

The police have shot dead someone by Nørrebro station, but no info on whether he was involved with the earlier episodes:
http://ekstrabladet.dk/112/ny-skudepisode-politiet-draeber-mand-paa-noerrebro/5443317

bpmurray

The police have just held a meeting with the press and the report is:

På pressemødet oplyste politiet, at man via overvågningsbilleder fra pladsen, hvor flugtbilen blev efterladt kunne se den mistænkte foretage et opkald, hvor efter en taxa ankom og samlede mandspersonen op.

Det er altså dette spor, der har ledt efterforskerne i retningen af en adresse på ydre Nørrebro.

- Afhøringer med taxachaufføren har ført til, at vi har overvåget en adresse.

Overvågningen førte søndag morgen til et voldsomt skyderi, hvor den formodede gerningsmand blev dræbt.

Translation:

At the press meeting the police said that they could see the suspect on CCTV make a phone call from where the getaway car was abandoned, after which a taxi arrived and picked him up. It was this lead that led the investigation to an address in outer Nørrebro.

"Interviews with the taxi driver led us to watch an address"

The surveillance led to a violent exchange of fire on Sunday, when the alleged perpetrator was killed.

So it looks like they got him. I don't understand why the police hadn't increased security at the Synagogue after the first shooting. And, in fact, why they had ordinary cops on guard instead of having someone from PET or, at least, their better trained/armed guys at both places.

RobYourBuilder

So, is this going to become the norm now in Europe? Jihadist this morning shoots at cartoonists and Jews.. here's Nodin with the weather and sports at ten.

Saipanne

Here are some "out of context" quotes from the Qur'an regarding terrorising non believers.


http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm


What was that you say? No, I regard all Abrahamic religions as equally potty.

MRnotlob606

Saipanne wrote: »

Do gooders, please choose your response here:


Guys, cant you all see that this is our fault? [x]

It's their culture! [x]

Stop being racist against a belief! [x]


Tick the box, as appropriate.

FINISHED ,WHERE'S MY MEDAL ?

MRnotlob606

I think mosques should be closely monitored from now on.

Bob24

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

I think mosques should be closely monitored from now on.

I think in places like France/Belgium/Danmark they already are. Ireland has naively let some extremist come in and establish themselves in the Muslim community without monitoring (same as the the other countries did before) but will change.

The problem is what do you do once you are monitoring. You can detect imams you preach hatred publicly, but the smart ones will either manage to keep their speeches within the restriction of local laws (and ask why freedom of speech doesn't apply to them) or give them behind closed doors.

reprise

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

So, is this going to become the norm now in Europe? Jihadist this morning shoots at cartoonists and Jews.. here's Nodin with the weather and sports at ten.

In Prime Time we go live to Egypt where eotr will be attending another protest against the ruthless regime of the Irish ambassador. Porsche959 is on leave.

Tugboats

Carnival cancelled in Germany due to threat of attack. First cartoons now carnivals do muslims find everything offensive?