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Strength.. with a dash of size.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Aspiring wrote: »
    5/3/1 just isn't working for my bench, or my squat either, for whatever reason.

    I always just felt there isn't enough volume at a high enough percentage to give strength gains.

    I know there are probably thousands of people who have made good strength gains from it but that was just my opinion on it as a program.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭papu


    I always just felt there isn't enough volume at a high enough percentage to give strength gains.

    I know there are probably thousands of people who have made good strength gains from it but that was just my opinion on it as a program.

    Yeah needs more volume & frequency and less deloads, Canditos Linear program or the 6 week one worked allot better for me than 5/3/1 ever did.

    There are lots of difference variations of 5/3/1 though , Which one were you doing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Darrenon91 wrote: »
    5500 calories? Nice :)

    How do you plan on getting all that in? Honesly dont think I could ever get that much in.

    I'll spread it out over the day in smaller meals I'd say.
    I just went through the numbers on what I think would eat on a work day and I have the following:

    Breakfast:
    4 weetabix with milk
    1 pint of milk
    2 bananas
    Total calories: 835 calories

    Work Lunch:
    3 meat of choice sandwiches with butter
    Total calories: 850

    Home lunch:
    Beans on toast (2 slices)
    1 pint of milk
    Kitkat/Mars bar/other
    Total calories: 800

    Afternoon snack:
    1 cup of peanuts
    1 pint of milk
    Total calories: 1000

    Dinner:
    Usually some kind of meat + spuds + veg
    Total calories: 600

    Evening snack:
    1 cup of peanuts
    Total calories: 600

    Bed time snack:
    Rice + olive oil
    1 pint of milk
    Total calories: 800

    Total calories for the day: 5485

    Think I could manage that, fairly similar to what I'm doing atm.
    I always just felt there isn't enough volume at a high enough percentage to give strength gains.

    I know there are probably thousands of people who have made good strength gains from it but that was just my opinion on it as a program.

    That's what I felt too. I felt like I wasn't squatting enough at all, every week felt like it had been ages since I last did the lifts properly.
    papu wrote: »
    Yeah needs more volume & frequency and less deloads, Canditos Linear program or the 6 week one worked allot better for me than 5/3/1 ever did.

    There are lots of difference variations of 5/3/1 though , Which one were you doing?

    I just had a look at that program there looks fairly decent. Might give it a go after I'm finished up with this go at starting strength.

    I dunno if you were asking Alf or myself which variation of 5/3/1 we did but if you meant me it was 5/3/1 BBB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Squat:
    3x5x112.5kg

    Bench:
    3x5x92.5kg

    Deadlift:
    1x5x150kg

    Back accessory stuff

    Calories: 4069


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    I have DOMS fairly bad in my quads today for the first time in months. Didn't expect it at all considering I only changed from a 3x5 of increasing weights to a 3x5 with the same weight for each set. The mystery of DOMS continues :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Squat:
    1x5x100kg

    Military Press:
    3x5x55kg

    Barbell row:
    3x5x80kg

    -Curls
    -Shrugs

    I've some kind of problem going on with my right quad muscle. It wasn't feeling right even after warming up really well so I stopped once I reached 100kg. Hopefully it clears itself up over the next few days. Gave DB curls a go for the first time in ages, just to fill up some time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Squat:
    3x5x115kg

    Bench:
    3x5x95kg

    -Shoulder hypertrophy work
    -Chest/triceps hypertrophy

    Squats were back on form today, no pain whatsoever. Wasn't happy with bench so I'm going to go for 95kg again the next time I'm benching. No dead lifting today, I was too bollixed tbh :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Squat:
    3x5x117.5kg

    Overhead press:
    3x5x57.5kg

    Row:
    3x5x82.5kg

    -Chest hypertrophy work
    -Upper back hypertrophy work

    Calories: 3954


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Squat:
    3x5x120kg

    Bench:
    3x5x95kg

    Deadlift:
    1x5x155kg

    Squats were class, feeling better than ever with my new form which is wide, toes pointed out, chest up and focusing on hips rather than knees. Bench all OK, tried a different grip width each set, wider seems to be best for me. Deadlifts were fairly hard after doing the squats, still grinded out 5 reps with good form so all OK there too.

    Calories: 5260


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    It's been over 2 years since I updated the log here. A lot has changed in those two years, I've been training on and off a lot. I've been the strongest/biggest I've ever been, and lost it all again, many times in that 2 year period. Currently in final year of college so I want to start up this log again to keep me motivated to keep going to the gym. I've been quite consistent for the last month so I want to keep it up.

    My goals have changed a lot over the last two years. My main goals now are just to be bigger and fitter, I don't really care about hitting PRs in certain exercises or anything anymore for some reason. Just gonna keep adding weight on the bar, and running faster, and see how it goes.

    Goals:
    -Be 80kg lean
    -Sub 20 min 5K

    Current stats:
    -72kg lean
    -30 minute 5K

    At the moment I'm running twice a week and lifting 3 times a week. The runs are 5K runs, and the lifting is just upper body A/B workouts. Not training legs at the moment (shame on me I know :D) because I'm focusing on the 5K time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Overhead press:
    3 x 5 x 55kg

    Bench press:
    3 x 10 x 70kg

    Barbell row:
    3 x 10 x 70kg

    Barbell shrugs:
    3 x 10 x 90kg

    Pullups:
    3 x 10

    Curls 21s:
    2 x 21 x 25kg
    1 x 21 x 20kg

    Lateral raise:
    3 x 15 x 7.5kg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Wednesday 20th September:

    Pin Press:
    3x5x92.5kg

    Military Press:
    3x10x42.5kg

    Barbell shrug:
    3x5x102.5kg

    Pull ups:
    3x9 (+5kg)

    Chin ups:
    2x10

    Lateral raise:
    3x20x7.5kg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Run today:
    5km in 27:50

    Good bit faster than last time. Think my confidence in running faster is coming back. Gonna try for 27:00 on Saturday/Sunday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Bit sore today after the run yesterday, first time having DOMS in a long time.

    Workout today:

    Military press:
    3x5x55kg

    Bench press:
    3x10x72.5kg

    Barbell row:
    3x10x72.5kg

    Barbell shrug:
    3x10x92.5kg

    Pull ups:
    3x10

    Lateral raise:
    3x15x10kg

    Been a full month on the current program now. I'm progressing better than I have in a long time. The last time I progressed this fast in terms of strength/size was probably when I first started. I can feel the progress slowing down now though, training each upper body part 3 times a week is beginning to become difficult. I'd say I'll get a few more weeks out of it but I'll be changing it up after that.

    Traps are growing mad fast compared to everywhere else. The change in them over the last month is insane. I suppose doing shrugs 3 times a week will do that :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Been reading up on running training and it seems running 5K a few times a week isn't really a good approach at all. Increasing weekly mileage is supposed to be the best way to improve. With that in mind I decided to do a 10km run today instead of the 5km I had planned.

    Treadmill Run:
    10km in 1:03:15

    Not very fast but still not too bad. It's been years since I ran that far so I'm happy enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Pin Press:
    3x5x95kg

    Military press:
    3x10x42.5kg

    BB Shrug:
    3x5x110kg

    Pull up:
    3x10 (+5kg)

    Lateral raise:
    3x15x10kg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Military press:
    3x5x55kg

    Bench press:
    1x10x75kg
    2x8x75kg

    Barbell row:
    3x10x75kg

    Barbell shrug:
    3x10x95kg

    Pull ups:
    3x12

    I've had the worst hangover of my life the last two days, fairly happy to get a decent gym session in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Run:
    2km in 10:00


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Pin Press:
    3x3x97.5kg

    Military press:
    2x10x45kg
    1x9x45kg

    Shrug:
    3x5x112.5kg

    Pull ups:
    3x8 (+10kg)

    Chin ups:
    2x12

    Lateral raise:
    1x20x10kg
    2x15x10kg

    Bodyweight: 72.7kg (up 0.7kg since last weigh in)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Military press:
    3x4x57.5kg

    Bench press:
    2x9x75kg
    1x10x75kg

    Barbell row:
    3x10x77.5kg

    Barbell shrug:
    3x10x97.5kg

    Pull ups:
    3x8 (+10kg)

    Chin ups:
    2x8

    Lateral raise:
    1x20x10kg
    1x18x10kg
    1x15x10kg

    Progress on the military press definitely slowing which I was expecting. Haven't taken creatine for about 2 weeks, I'm surprised how little of a difference coming off it has had. I get way more acne when I take it which is no fun at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Bench press:
    3x5x85kg

    Military press:
    1x10x45kg
    1x9x45kg
    1x8x45kg

    Barbell shrug:
    3x5x115kg

    Pull ups:
    3x9 (+10kg)

    Chin ups:
    2x10

    Lateral raise:
    3x15x10kg

    First time benching heavy in ages. Felt pretty good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Military press:
    3x5x55kg

    Bench press:
    3x10x75kg

    Barbell row:
    3x10x80kg

    Barbell shrug:
    3x10x100kg

    Pull ups:
    3x9 (+10kg)

    Lateral raise:
    3x20x10kg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Bench press:
    3x5x87.5kg

    Military press:
    2x10x42.5kg
    1x8x42.5kg

    Barbell shrug:
    3x5x117.5kg

    Pull ups:
    3x6 (+15kg)

    Chin ups:
    2x12

    Lateral raise:
    3x15x10kg

    Bodyweight: 73.3kg (+0.6kg since last weigh in)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Military press:
    1x5x57.5kg
    2x4x57.5kg

    Bench press:
    3x8x77.5kg

    Barbell row:
    3x10x82.5kg

    Barbell shrug:
    3x10x102.5kg

    Pull ups:
    3x10 (+10kg)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Sunday 22nd October:

    Bench:
    3x5x90kg

    Military press:
    3x10x42.5kg

    Barbell shrug:
    3x5x120kg

    Pull ups:
    3x6 (+15kg)

    Lateral raise:
    3x15x10kg



    Wednesday 25th October:

    Military press:
    3x5x55kg

    Squat:
    3x10x60kg

    Barbell shrug:
    3x10x105kg

    Pull ups:
    1x15
    2x10

    Lateral raise:
    3x15x10kg

    College is getting fairly busy now, it's hard to find time to go to the gym. First time doing squats in a very long time. Hoping to try get a 3x10 of squats in once or twice a week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Squat:
    3x10x62.5kg

    Bench:
    2x8x80kg
    1x7x80kg

    BB Shrug:
    3x8x110kg

    Pull ups (+ 10kg):
    2x10
    1x8

    Lateral raise:
    3x15x10kg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Wednesday:
    5km run in 32:00


    Saturday:

    Squat:
    3x10x65kg

    Military press:
    3x10x42.5kg

    Barbell shrug:
    3x8x112.5kg

    Pull ups: (+10kg)
    1x10
    2x8

    Lateral raise:
    3x15x10kg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Monday:
    5km run in 31:55


    Wednesday:

    Squat:
    3x10x70kg

    Bench:
    1x8x82.5kg
    1x8x80kg
    1x6x80kg

    Barbell shrug:
    3x10x110kg

    Pull ups:
    3x5 (+15kg)
    1x15

    Lateral raise:
    1x18x10kg
    2x15x10kg

    Bodyweight: 72.2kg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Went for a run outside instead of on the treadmill today.

    Run:
    5km in 26:15

    Over 5 mins faster than my treadmill 5km time, somehow. I must have a mental block when running on the treadmill or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    Squat:
    3x10x72.5kg

    Military press:
    2x10x42.5kg
    1x6x42.5kg

    Shrug:
    3x15x100kg

    Pull ups:
    2x6 (+15kg)
    1x12

    Lateral raise:
    3x10x10kg

    It's difficult getting used to doing squats again, I'm always wrecked after I do them :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭Aspiring


    College is mad at the moment so just a quick session today:

    Run:
    2km in 10:00

    Sots press:
    3x10

    Overhead squat:
    3x10

    Decided to do some mobility stuff. Not sure if I have the right name for the sots press, it was the behind the neck one anyway whatever that's called. I had forgotten how difficult it was, some workout even with just the bar.


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