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Daytime car ban for Patrick Street

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    #32
    zenarcadian
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭zenarcadian


    Pedestrianising Pana would be the start of a butt-tonne of changes they need to make immediately.


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    #33
    cgcsb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,571 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    KCAccidental wrote: »
    This report was defeated at the council meeting tonight. 15-12. FF & AAA plus most indos voted against; FG were in favour. SF were split.

    Shocking incompetence. The NTA needs to keep pushing this.


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    #34
    Subpopulus
    Registered Users Posts: 837 ✭✭✭Subpopulus


    To be fair to the councillors, it was probably the right decision to make - I don't think that many councillors were opposed to making Patrick's Street car-free, but most were opposed to how the traffic was to be managed in the Middle Parish. Basically the traffic that normally goes down St. Patricks street was to be diverted into a mostly residential area, and a network of high-volume one-way streets made with no 30kmph zones and no cycling contraflows etc.

    This will now have to go back to the drawing board and hopefully the traffic management plan will be better the second time around. It's worth doing these things right.


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    #35
    mire
    Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭mire


    Subpopulus wrote: »
    To be fair to the councillors, it was probably the right decision to make - I don't think that many councillors were opposed to making Patrick's Street car-free, but most were opposed to how the traffic was to be managed in the Middle Parish. Basically the traffic that normally goes down St. Patricks street was to be diverted into a mostly residential area, and a network of high-volume one-way streets made with no 30kmph zones and no cycling contraflows etc.

    This will now have to go back to the drawing board and hopefully the traffic management plan will be better the second time around. It's worth doing these things right.

    The plans for Patrick Street had nothing to do with improving pedestrian facilities; they involved taking private cars off Patrick Street from 12.30-6.30. Taxis and buses will simply drive faster through the street between those hours. It sounds like a badly thought-out plan.


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    #36
    Subpopulus
    Registered Users Posts: 837 ✭✭✭Subpopulus


    mire wrote: »
    The plans for Patrick Street had nothing to do with improving pedestrian facilities; they involved taking private cars off Patrick Street from 12.30-6.30. Taxis and buses will simply drive faster through the street between those hours. It sounds like a badly thought-out plan.

    No, the Patrick's Street proposal would have actually worked fine- these systems are in place in many cities and they don't result in massive speeding. There was to be a fifth set of traffic lights added to allow access between Cook Street and Opera Lane, so that would have slowed down traffic even more. Also, with far less traffic, people would be able to walk across the street almost anywhere they please, so traffic would be much more cautious as a result.

    The badly though-out part of the plan was the traffic management for the Middle Parish, which is where all the traffic would be shifted to...


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