fast and reliable car. Plz help to choose. into big shapes so no 3drs

mhackett102

Bit of advice - try get a car 2008 or above. Cheaper road tax which will work out in the long term!

colm_mcm

garancafan wrote: »

On the other hand, having, momentarily, the attention of a person who wishes to purchase a fast car for the purpose of commuting on back roads is, in my view, an ideal opportunity to discuss the wisdom and maturity of such a proposed course of action.

Boards has cycle/fitness forums. This is motors.
I'm sure your intentions are good, but as stated, this isn't the place.

bazz26

mhackett102 wrote: »

Bit of advice - try get a car 2008 or above. Cheaper road tax which will work out in the long term!

The only cheap 2008 onwards cars are those that have high motor tax. Anything with low motor tax tends to cost a substantially more to buy. In alot of cases the difference buys you alot of motor tax. An example of this is a 2007 535d v a 2008 535d, there can be up to €10k difference in purchase prices.

mhackett102

bazz26 wrote: »

The only cheap 2008 onwards cars are those that have high motor tax. Anything with low motor tax tends to cost a substantially more to buy. In alot of cases the difference buys you alot of motor tax.

Correct but most cars 2008 and above have cheap motor tax compared to their 2007 model.
One car, as far as I can remember, which had a higher tax rate in 2008 compared to 2007 was the Honda Civic saloon. (Not 100% sure on this but Im neary certain)

bazz26

The OP ain't looking at cars like Honda Civics though.

A 2007 BMW 530d/535d costs €1800 to tax, a 2008 costs €750 but costs up to €10k more to buy. So it would take you years to make that money back in cheaper motor tax savings.

garancafan

colm_mcm wrote: »

Boards has cycle/fitness forums. This is motors.
I'm sure your intentions are good, but as stated, this isn't the place.

My reference to a bike was but a bit of sideline banter. My concern is in the area of motors. The cars being mooted are high-powered long-distance models and entirely inappropriate for backroad commuting. This sort of a mis-fit can have grave consequences. The old dictum of "horses for courses" still holds true. Cars are not toys. I remain of the view that this is exactly the place for discussing the matter.

midaev1

garancafan wrote: »

My reference to a bike was but a bit of sideline banter. My concern is in the area of motors. The cars being mooted are high-powered long-distance models and entirely inappropriate for backroad commuting. This sort of a mis-fit can have grave consequences. The old dictum of "horses for courses" still holds true. Cars are not toys. I remain of the view that this is exactly the place for discussing the matter.

mate I think you should move on now. We got what you mean now so plz nicely move on. I can use all type of roads coz I'm paying taxes for it so when it feels like I'll use motorway and when it worth taking will go on back roads. The other day I was on m50 heading to Sandyford. It was absolute joke. Didn't get a chance to go over 80 km. 40 - 60km Max. know tell me wtf I wudnt take back road? Never mind. Good luck Sir

Underpaid Mike

garancafan wrote: »

My reference to a bike was but a bit of sideline banter. My concern is in the area of motors. The cars being mooted are high-powered long-distance models and entirely inappropriate for backroad commuting. This sort of a mis-fit can have grave consequences. The old dictum of "horses for courses" still holds true. Cars are not toys. I remain of the view that this is exactly the place for discussing the matter.

What on earth are you ranting about ?
The guy is looking for help in buying a "fast and reliable car", not looking to be lectured on the ills of high speed motoring.

Moneymaker

Focus ST? They are spacious enough in my experience and plenty quick.

midaev1

Moneymaker wrote: »

Focus ST? They are spacious enough in my experience and plenty quick.

Thinking of Mondeo ST 2.2.

I like big saloon cars. And of course a bit of power. That's way I'm mostly sticking to big cars. Was almost definite that I'll buy accord. But one guy here said they aren't that fast as I imagine. Feck sake dono what to pick. Think I want to much. All in one.

fletch

Nobody has suggested an Octavia vRS yet? Hard to find a petrol one though

Edit - found one http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/skoda/octavia/used-2006-skoda-octavia-rs-200hp-louth-fpa-201452229618950

midaev1

I been checking out those jeeps Which qualify for commercial or crew cab tax. 333 yr. By May I need a nice looking car. My aim to buy reliable car. Fast. driving 1.3 so you what's fast for me.

garancafan

@colm_mcm
@midaev1

Thanks for being gracious enough to acknowledge that at least I had a point.
In the absence of any support for my quest to discuss the wisdom of the proposed car purchase, I will, as you suggest, move on.

Safe driving midaev1.

midaev1

like this. She she qualifies for 333 tax cars.donedeal.ie/view/8701125

Underpaid Mike

midaev1 wrote: »

like this. She she qualifies for 333 tax cars.donedeal.ie/view/8701125

How out of curosity does it qualify for such low tax ?

midaev1

Underpaid Mike wrote: »

How out of curosity does it qualify for such low tax ?

Not an expert on it bit all Suv can be taxed 333 I heard

MuppetCheck

midaev1 wrote: »

Not an expert on it bit all Suv can be taxed 333 I heard

Only when taxed as a commercial vehicle.

Viper_JB

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Only when taxed as a commercial vehicle.

Ya, and they generally don't have back seats...and also need to be able to provide proof that it'll be used for a registered business before taxing as a commercial, although not 100% sure on that last point but would be amazed if they didn't ask for a VAT no. and stuff

midaev1

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Only when taxed as a commercial vehicle.

Yeah. That's what I mean. Usually commercial cars have no back seat however you can have them and still be on cheap tax. Called crew cab. Of course it will cost u money to convert but for long run its worth I think

mhackett102

midaev1 wrote: »

like this. She she qualifies for 333 tax cars.donedeal.ie/view/8701125

A family member had one just like this. Smashing jeep, very fast and very steady to drive. His wasnt taxed as a commercial so tax was up past €1,000.

Also, commercials dont have NCT. They have a DOE.

midaev1

mhackett102 wrote: »

A family member had one just like this. Smashing jeep, very fast and very steady to drive. His wasnt taxed as a commercial so tax was up past €1,000.

Also, commercials dont have NCT. They have a DOE.

3.5 petrol Wud be fast alrite.
To save money on fuel I heard u can do LPG conversion

midaev1

never seen such car in Ireland. wonder do they make these RHD

http:// www. todoautos.com.pe/portal/images/stories/expautos/images/big/listing_orig5922_19075239441319591560.jpg

bodonnell

At the risk of repeating myself, a turbo forester (5 door suv (ish) ) or an import Subaru legacy turbo in either saloon or estate form. & I know the tax is high

midaev1

bodonnell wrote: »

At the risk of repeating myself, a turbo forester (5 door suv (ish) ) or an import Subaru legacy turbo in either saloon or estate form. & I know the tax is high

i checked Forester. not really stylish. kind of business class. lets say. her to compare to 525 she is ugly horse. right now I'm checking Honda Accord.on finance. 400euros per month. TypeS.

bodonnell

Ok not particularly stylish depending on your pov but fast & reliable were your original requirements. Check out pistonheads.co.uk for sti version of the forester

midaev1

does high mileage pay a big role? here is car i wud buy.

http: //www. honda.ie/used-cars/Honda/Accord/2.0-I/139414233080251530/

mhackett102

midaev1 wrote: »

does high mileage pay a big role? here is car i wud buy.

http: //www. honda.ie/used-cars/Honda/Accord/2.0-I/139414233080251530/

As far as I know, Honda's dont have timing belts - they have chains so they do not need to be replaced.
So thats a plus side to it (y)

colm_mcm

You can pick up that shape accord for under €2000. No way I'd pay €400 a month for one.

Gavman84

My old Accord type S is still for sale its immaculate and full main dealer history and I had it detailed and polished it regularly myself too!
http://www.jameshennessymotors.ie/viewanad.php?ad_id=1166543&r=

midaev1

colm_mcm wrote: »

You can pick up that shape accord for under €2000. No way I'd pay €400 a month for one.

That shape? It's 2009 model. So nee shape. She has high mileage. 131m 2.0lauto

Constant Curiosity

fast and reliable is the requirement and you are asking for opinions on new cars... newsflash, the newer cars are, the heavier and bulkier they get hence slower (most of the models), the newer the more sensors and electronics, hence less reliable and more expensive to maintain... whoever told you about 525 bmw being ****e is wrong and right at the same time, if you don't maintain them they will **** themselves, but if you want a fast car you must look after it, it is all up to you what exactly you want from a car