Foynes Line

TheSunIsShining

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122333516#Comment_122333516

To be fair, CIE flogged it in the first place. That's not the people who bought the property's fault. They did the same with the West Cork line - they sold it all as fast as they were able to so you can't really blame the people who bought it all. The fault was the decision to sell all the old lines in the first place.

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122334664#Comment_122334664

Are we not lucky they sold them. Pity the Foynes line was not sold it woukd have the country half a billion between the refurbishment of the line and the attempt o er the next 10-20 years to justify the initial spend.

If that money had been put to a justifiable rIl project grand. There is and never will be a justification to have rail allaround west Cork just like there is no reason for the Foynes line

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122333590#Comment_122333590

there isn't any evidence what soever to support your claim.

no passenger service pattern has been released, no passenger service has been committed to.

if there was to be a passenger service it would not be on the service pattern you are claiming.

Hibernicis

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122334664#Comment_122334664

There is a fundamental difference. When the West Cork lines (and many others) were closed in the 50s and 60s, the Dail gave CIE the authority to dispose of the land and the stations. While the Foynes line stopped carrying pasengers in 1963 and freight in 2000, the line was never closed; simply mothballed. Selling off adjacent properties such as stations may have appeared reasonable especially if they were occupied residentially, but doing so without retaining unambiguous rights to fully operate and maintain the line suggests a lack of competence.

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122333663#Comment_122333663

the many you state can't grasp it do grasp it, hence why we still have passenger rail.

the passenger rail services across the country have the volume to justify them, otherwise they would have gone in the 60s and 70s, and numbers are growing.

end of the road

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122334843#Comment_122334843

no, we aren't lucky because it has meant a small few areas which could justify rail now either can't get it or it's very difficult.
actually, the west cork main line would have been quite viable today had it survived and it could have as it was modernised right before closure, the small branches are different.
the only issue was the city railway.
the foynes line rebuilding has been justified, it's happening, no amount of cribbing about it or ranting about ryan who had no say over it will change it, it's happening, it's being rebuilt and it will be open for traffic.
all 10 t ports must be connected by rail, rightly so, there will be no more big road expansions and megga road projects for HGVS.

Hibernicis

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122334919#Comment_122334919

"the foynes line rebuilding has been justified"

Just to be clear, it wasn't justified in any meaningful sense. No business case, no cost benefit analysis, no subvention calculations, no freight projection, nothing.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122334664#Comment_122334664

They sold the house, not the line, there's the difference.