Kanger Subtank

Trond

Dr Bill wrote: »

Thats a kinda mantra that i've been using about a particular juice, Cosmic Fog Nutz, at 19.50 a bottle I'm gonna stick with it till its gone, however putrid it tastes.

Tried that with a few of mine couldn't hack it though. Thankfully Ive a few friends who vape but rarely buy anything decent so I just pass on what I don't want to them.

I've a bottle of mothers milk that's changed colour so much its odd. Its on its way to being black at this stage. All I did was transfer it into needle top bottle.

I've about 6 bottles to give away this weekend and if they aren't taken I'll throw them up on here next week....

youdipstick

Dr Bill wrote: »

Thats a kinda mantra that i've been using about a particular juice, Cosmic Fog Nutz, at 19.50 a bottle I'm gonna stick with it till its gone, however putrid it tastes.

Have you tried in a dripper at high wattage,it should change the taste to the better,maybe :D

Dr Bill

youdipstick wrote:

Have you tried in a dripper at high wattage,it should change the taste to the better,maybe

Ive tried it in different tanks and improves a bit, trying it in a dripper at the moment and it has a black pepper flavour, this is one thats gonna last a while methinks.

Allan45121

Hi guys, just thought I would sing the praises of the mini rba plus. Bought 7 authentic ones off ft. They wick so well and they are so easy to set up. They are also so much easier to dissassemble than their predecessor.no more cuts on my hands. Flavour is much the same but I can now run my builds at 25w instead of 17. Fckin awesome

JH_raheny

Allan45121 wrote: »

Hi guys, just thought I would sing the praises of the mini rba plus. Bought 7 authentic ones off ft. They wick so well and they are so easy to set up. They are also so much easier to dissassemble than their predecessor.no more cuts on my hands ðŸ˜႒. Flavour is much the same but I can now fun my builds at 25w instead of 17. Fckin awesome

Agreed they are great, wicks great, running mine at 31w no problem

Dr Bill

Anyone using the new rba with high vg juice?? Just wondering does it wick better than the older rba.

Trond

How would someone know the difference between the new RBA and the old one? I bought the Mini recently (3weeks ago or something) and am not sure what one I got.

Dr Bill

Trond wrote:

How would someone know the difference between the new RBA and the old one? I bought the Mini recently (3weeks ago or something) and am not sure what one I got.

New rba has wicking holes on side of chimney and a small screw securing the chimney to the deck.

youdipstick

Dr Bill wrote: »

New rba has wicking holes on side of chimney and a small screw securing the chimney to the deck.

On my next order I will splash out on that €12 RBA,I don't think there is much diff going by some vids I saw,I'll check YT to see if any new reviews have appeared.

Didihno

Haven't got the new type myself, but as refered to above the new rba has massive wick holes, like the stock coils, which handles my 80vg juice no problem, so I can only assume the new rba would too.

Trond

Dr Bill wrote: »

New rba has wicking holes on side of chimney and a small screw securing the chimney to the deck.

Cheers for that. I got the new one so!

Between the Ego One Mega and the Subtank they've converted me to direct lung hits.

Dr Bill

Didihno wrote: »

Haven't got the new type myself, but as refered to above the new rba has massive wick holes, like the stock coils, which handles my 80vg juice no problem, so I can only assume the new rba would too.

Thats what I'm looking for,something that will take the 80% vg as the older one struggles with the narrow juice channels and rather than replacing tanks it's a cheaper option to replace the rba's.

Dr Bill

Trond wrote: »

Cheers for that. I got the new one so!

Between the Ego One Mega and the Subtank they've converted me to direct lung hits.

It's much easier now to disassemble the rba with that screw,no more broken fingernails:D

subscriber

4 week old Kanger Subtank Mini is leaking from around the adjustable airhole setting at the botttomof the tank....

Everything is tight and in place at it should be.... Anyone have any ideas what the issue may be??

JH_raheny

Insufficient wicking maybe, is it premade coil or the rba ?

youdipstick

subscriber wrote: »

4 week old Kanger Subtank Mini is leaking from around the adjustable airhole setting at the botttomof the tank....

Everything is tight and in place at it should be.... Anyone have any ideas what the issue may be??

The coil seems to be causing flooding,unscrew coil from base,give the base & air holes a good soaking under a running tap,give a good shake to dry it off & use kitchen towel to finish off the drying,especially the part the coil screws into,it's just a build up of juice coming from the bottom of the coil into the base & then escapes out of the air hole,this works for me everytime.

subscriber

youdipstick wrote: »

The coil seems to be causing flooding,unscrew coil from base,give the base & air holes a good soaking under a running tap,give a good shake to dry it off & use kitchen towel to finish off the drying,especially the part the coil screws into,it's just a build up of juice coming from the bottom of the coil into the base & then escapes out of the air hole,this works for me everytime.

Cheers.. Ill give it a blast and report back...

Didihno

Kangertech tanks.
They just seem to leak eventually one way or the other.
Always have.

To qualify that statement I have had Kanger tanks pretty much since I started vaping. Very few of them didn't leak. This Subtank mini is probably the best of the lot in that regard, yet it does occasionally seep out.
As suggested above, when its leaking, its time for a good cleaning out and that bottom o-ring on the tank section (the one that sits into the base) is garbage IMO, I've replaced two of mine already.

To balance that up though, the Subtank Mini is great otherwise. Flavour and performance is at a high level.

subscriber

Didihno wrote: »

Kangertech tanks.
They just seem to leak eventually one way or the other.
Always have.

To qualify that statement I have had Kanger tanks pretty much since I started vaping. Very few of them didn't leak. This Subtank mini is probably the best of the lot in that regard, yet it does occasionally seep out.
As suggested above, when its leaking, its time for a good cleaning out and that bottom o-ring on the tank section (the one that sits into the base) is garbage IMO, I've replaced two of mine already.

To balance that up though, the Subtank Mini is great otherwise. Flavour and performance is at a high level.

I agree that flavour and performance is good but unfortunately I haven't solved the leaking problem yet which is an awful nuisance. I cleaned the bottom base and dried well yesterday which has decreased the frequency of the leaking but it is still leaking some. Although I have the tank about 4 weeks, it's only been used for about a total of 6 days cause i was having all sorts of other issues with coils burning too hot and hadn't been using it much at all while trying to solve that issue.

Coil issue sorted now by upgrading to the new 1.5ohm vertical coil with the biggeer hole but now this leaking issue... To say I'm disappointed with this tank is an understatement.

On the other hand, i was mostly using a kanger protank over the last few weeks and although I didn't find any issues with leaking, the vape from it left something to be desired.

RainMakerToo

I have 4 subtank minis at this stage, and never really had the sort of problem you described.
Any leaks I've had were sorted just by making sure the coil was tightened on to the base properly...

Having said that I got an OBS T-VCT (still can't post links!) tank recently, and it's always leaking - despite having a 6ml tank, I only put in a few drops at a time, so it doesn't all leak out! I think the variable juice flow might be causing the leaking, but might try another o-ring in the base, see if that helps at all

8mm

The upgraded subtank mini that comes with the RBA base looks quite nice and I am considering getting it.

But I'm in a bit of a quandary as to get this or the Lemo 2 RTA. Both look decent but I can only afford one new tank right now... any thoughts on one over the other from you guys? Love to hear from folk that have both.

Cheers.

Trond

Quick question regarding the Subtank Mini.

I've 2 of they now and im find it a great tank. The upgraded RBA base works fantastically well.

The newer of the two tanks has started to leak whenever it not upright. Its other wise fine but obviously there something a miss.

I've had a look at the O-rings etc and nothing looks out of place. Im considering bringing it back to the vendor but before I do I thought Id check in here and see if there's something obvious I may be missing?

youdipstick

Juice gathers behind the AFC & when laying flat it will seep out of the air hole

Trond

youdipstick wrote: »

Juice gathers behind the AFC & when laying flat it will seep out of the air hole

The older one I have is with me pretty much 24/7 and doesn't leak in the same manner at all.

Its a pain as I like to carry a back up tank when im on a night out. Having 2 subtanks as my options was pretty cool as well!

I'll replace the O Rings and see it that does anything. Otherwise I might chance my arm and return it....

youdipstick

Trond wrote: »

The older one I have is with me pretty much 24/7 and doesn't leak in the same manner at all.

Its a pain as I like to carry a back up tank when im on a night out. Having 2 subtanks as my options was pretty cool as well!

I'll replace the O Rings and see it that does anything. Otherwise I might chance my arm and return it....

It's usually the coil that floods the AFC eventually,have you tried holding the tank upside down & blow like fukc up the drip tip while catching the excess fluid from the air hole with a tissue.

Trond

youdipstick wrote: »

It's usually the coil that floods the AFC eventually,have you tried holding the tank upside down & blow like fukc up the drip tip while catching the excess fluid from the air hole with a tissue.

I did that and had some success but it reverted to leaking again. I think I'll take both tanks apart together and see if I can see something different with the individual o-rings and seals.

Its a shame as I really like the tank. Great flavour and vapour production and probably the easiest tank Ive used to rebuild on.

youdipstick

Trond wrote: »

I did that and had some success but it reverted to leaking again. I think I'll take both tanks apart together and see if I can see something different with the individual o-rings and seals.

Its a shame as I really like the tank. Great flavour and vapour production and probably the easiest tank Ive used to rebuild on.

I love them myself,I have one tank that seeps through the air hole & the others don't,every tankful I have to unscrew the coil & wash the base out under the tap with the air hole open & I don't get anymore leaks till the next fill up & wash it again,no trouble with O-Rings on my tanks,good luck finding the problem.

8mm

I have the latest upgraded version and I am liking it a lot.

No leaks at all so far while using the rebuildable base and it's in my pocket bouncing around all the time. Also have it on it's side with the tank on while recharging.

Something that surprised me was when I did a rebuild and change of juice yesterday that the airflow area was completely dry. I at least expected a certain amount of condensation in there.

youdipstick

8mm wrote: »

I have the latest upgraded version and I am liking it a lot.

No leaks at all so far while using the rebuildable base and it's in my pocket bouncing around all the time. Also have it on it's side with the tank on while recharging.

Something that surprised me was when I did a rebuild and change of juice yesterday that the airflow area was completely dry. I at least expected a certain amount of condensation in there.

That new rba base must be good if it's leaving no condensation in the air hole,all mine just leaves a damp type patch on top of the box mod

8mm

Well to be honest I only have it since last Friday so still in the honeymoon period and have to see how it holds up over time.

The new RBA has been great and very easy to build. I did have to redo my build yesterday as I over packed the cotton and should have known better.

Also I have only been using Liqua juice in it which I think is 70/30 but I hear higher VG also works well too when wicked right.

Trond

8mm wrote: »

Well to be honest I only have it since last Friday so still in the honeymoon period and have to see how it holds up over time.

The new RBA has been great and very easy to build. I did have to redo my build yesterday as I over packed the cotton and should have known better.

Also I have only been using Liqua juice in it which I think is 70/30 but I hear higher VG also works well too when wicked right.

Same here. Rewicked the RBA in a hurry and over packed it.

I found that loosely packing cotton against the juice hole got it working perfectly. I didn't leave a gap as such but made sure there was plenty of room to allow the airflow to work properly.

8mm

Trond how are you doing your build?

I do 5 turns of Kanthal at 3mm which gives me 1.18 ohms. I did my first build as a compressed micro-coil style but it was a bit poppy and loud. I left my next build loose so the coil is spaced and it's been quieter. Running this at 24/25 watts and it's been very satisfying.

Trond

8mm wrote: »

Trond how are you doing your build?

I do 5 turns of Kanthal at 3mm which gives me 1.18 ohms. I did my first build as a compressed micro-coil style but it was a bit poppy and loud. I left my next build loose so the coil is spaced and it's been quieter. Running this at 24/25 watts and it's been very satisfying.

I basically tried to replicate the stock coil that came with it. Im nearly certain I used 26 gauge Kanthal with maybe 5 or 6 wraps. Came out at .6 ohms and vapes like a champ!

Trond

For lazy feicers

http://www.thebestshop.eu/shop/clearomizers/613-20pc-rba-coil-for-kanger-subtank-mini-and-subtank-plus.html

JH_raheny

Trond wrote: »

For lazy feicers

http://www.thebestshop.eu/shop/clearomizers/613-20pc-rba-coil-for-kanger-subtank-mini-and-subtank-plus.html

Thanks for throwing that up, got 2 bags of them ;-)

Trond

JH_raheny wrote: »

Thanks for throwing that up, got 2 bags of them ;-)

Handy to have a bag there alright. I went to a wedding recently and nearly missed my lift as I was frantically making 2 coils to bring with me in case of a breakdown!

8mm

I always found making a coil the easiest part.

Getting the wick right consistently now there's the art.

cunnifferous

Anyone tried the new 1.5 ohm coils? I'm not a big 'vapourchaser' so got the subtank with a few of these.

Plascebo

cunnifferous wrote: »

Anyone tried the new 1.5 ohm coils? I'm not a big 'vapourchaser' so got the subtank with a few of these.

Got the istick 40w with subtank mini last week, but not into sub-ohming so ordered the 1.5 coil with it.

Was using the nautilus previous to this purchase and haven't picked it up since. Much prefer the subtank with 1.5 coil (ordered 5 more coils from FT). I have not touched the coils that came with the tank (0.5 and 1.2 plus one you can make yourself).

Not mad about the new 40w though, preferring my 30w.

Hellrazer

Not mad about the .5 ohm coils.
Just doesn't seem to give me the hit @ .5 that I like.

I prefer the 1.2s....have to start this rebuilding lark..

What guage wire should I use.
Have 24 guage kantal here that I was given for nothing..that too heavy to use??

Trond

Hellrazer wrote: »

Not mad about the .5 ohm coils.
Just doesn't seem to give me the hit @ .5 that I like.

I prefer the 1.2s....have to start this rebuilding lark..

What guage wire should I use.
Have 24 guage kantal here that I was given for nothing..that too heavy to use??

The difference between the stock 0.5 ohm coils and a 0.5 ohm build in the RBA is like night and day.

i use 26 gauge kanthal using a 2.5mm drill bit. 5 or 6 wraps comes out at about 0.6ohms.

That being said I did buy a pack of the pre made Kanger coils which im using instead. 20 of them for €5.50 with bestshop

Hellrazer

Whoa..at that number of wraps I'd probably need 10-12 with 24 gauge to even get near. 5 ohms.

I'll just get 26 gauge instead.

There are 2 prebuilt coils in the box..not the occ ones but 2 coils with no wick in them.

Anyone know what ohms they are??might just practice my wicking skills on them.

How much cotton should I use??

Trond wrote: »

The difference between the stock 0.5 ohm coils and a 0.5 ohm build in the RBA is like night and day.

i use 26 gauge kanthal using a 2.5mm drill bit. 5 or 6 wraps comes out at about 0.6ohms.

That being said I did buy a pack of the pre made Kanger coils which im using instead. 20 of them for €5.50 with bestshop

JH_raheny

Yep the rba gives a way better vape, wicks 10 times better

youdipstick

Hellrazer wrote: »

Whoa..at that number of wraps I'd probably need 10-12 with 24 gauge to even get near. 5 ohms.

I'll just get 26 gauge instead.

There are 2 prebuilt coils in the box..not the occ ones but 2 coils with no wick in them.

Anyone know what ohms they are??might just practice my wicking skills on them.

How much cotton should I use??

For wicking & building coils,you will learn alot more from the Youtube videos & 24 AWG Kanthal with 6 wraps = .5,if you use dual coil,half the resistance of .5 which is .25,here is chart to practice on http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp?r=0.5&awg=24&id=2.5

Hellrazer

youdipstick wrote: »

For wicking & building coils,you will learn alot more from the Youtube videos & 24 AWG Kanthal with 6 wraps = .5,if you use dual coil,half the resistance of .5 which is .25,here is chart to practice on http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.asp?r=0.5&awg=24&id=2.5

That's a great calculator.
I was basing my "wraps" on 2mm inner diameter which is around 14 wraps.Doubt that would even fit in the RBA!!!


Im used to wrapping coils for tattoo machines and understand resistances etc but that calculator makes it nice and easy and I suppose with tattoo machines you are using insulated wire so shorts aren't an issue unless you break the insulation by mistake.
I just don't want to damage the Istick by getting it wrong.

26 or 28 guage seems to be the sweet size??

youdipstick

Hellrazer wrote: »

That's a great calculator.
I was basing my "wraps" on 2mm inner diameter which is around 14 wraps.Doubt that would even fit in the RBA!!!


Im used to wrapping coils for tattoo machines and understand resistances etc but that calculator makes it nice and easy and I suppose with tattoo machines you are using insulated wire so shorts aren't an issue unless you break the insulation by mistake.
I just don't want to damage the Istick by getting it wrong.

26 or 28 guage seems to be the sweet size??

28 gauge is very popular,all today's regulated mods have loads of protection,so a short will not cause any damage.

Hellrazer

How much cotton should I use?

Trond

Hellrazer wrote: »

How much cotton should I use?

Do you have the 1st or 2nd Mini Sub tank?

Id say cut about 1-1.5cm width of wick. Roll one end tightly, drag it through the coil until theres nearly no movement from it. Lift up both ends and put back on the RBA (without its top cap). You'll be left with ends stick out over the RBA. I cut them back so they only slightly stick out. Then make them as fluffy as you can before tucking them back down either side of the RBA.

When tucking them back down ensure to not just jam them in there. Do it lightly and sure theres room for airflow from the juice holes all the way to the top of the tank.

Probably easier to watch someone do it rather than read it from instructions tbf.. (skip to 12m 20secs in)

Hellrazer

Thanks Trond..wicked up the rba just now and did what you said.

Your instructions are 100% and no dry hits or anything.


About 1.5 cm of the cotton that came with the subtank mini.It came in about 10 sheets.I took one sheet off,cut off about 1.5cm.Threaded it through the coil and trimmed it back to just in line with the top of the rba.Tucked it down nice and loose and fluffy and its vaping very nice.

Much better than the stock coils.

BTW Im off the real smokes exactly 7 months today.

Probably thanks to this forum and the lot of you helping me out with proper equipment.Dont think I would have lasted using the run of the mill ecigs that really don't do vaping justice.

Trond

Hellrazer wrote: »

Thanks Trond..wicked up the rba just now and did what you said.

Your instructions are 100% and no dry hits or anything.


About 1.5 cm of the cotton that came with the subtank mini.It came in about 10 sheets.I took one sheet off,cut off about 1.5cm.Threaded it through the coil and trimmed it back to just in line with the top of the rba.Tucked it down nice and loose and fluffy and its vaping very nice.

Much better than the stock coils.

BTW Im off the real smokes exactly 7 months today.

Probably thanks to this forum and the lot of you helping me out with proper equipment.Dont think I would have lasted using the run of the mill ecigs that really don't do vaping justice.

Ah good stuff, glad the RBA worked out for you. The upgraded Sub Tank Mini is a great tank. Once you wick it properly there's not much out there that can touch it. If you don't like building coils you can buy 20 of the coils that come with it for €5.50 on bestshop.

Congrats on the 7 month anniversary! Another few weeks and I'm off them a year and a half! Best thing is I know I'll never smoke a cigarette again...

Bet you buy a 2nd sub tank shortly!!