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Incorporating a new company, where do ye find a Commissioner for Oaths/Peace Comm?

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  • 18-02-2015 11:06am
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    LordNorbury
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    Hi folks,

    Am incorporating a new company, have done this before but used a formation specialist, which I'm not doing any more as it's a waste of 300 Euro and the rest of it for what is simply a form filling processs when the CRO charge 100 Euro if you present the paperwork to them directly as an applicant.

    The only bit of the process I'm not sure about is the last page on the form, it says you have to get a (1) Commissioner for Oaths, or (2) Peace Commissioner or (3) Notary Public or (4) a person authorised by _______________ to take and receive statutory declarations, to sign off on the form.

    Just wondering where would I find such a person above to sign off on the A1 (application to incorporate a company) form?


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    pedronomix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 997 ✭✭✭pedronomix


    Most solicitors offices have one or access to one!!


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    LordNorbury
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭LordNorbury


    pedronomix wrote: »
    Most solicitors offices have one or access to one!!

    Thanks, I'm trying to avoid getting saddled by a solicitor!


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    pedronomix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 997 ✭✭✭pedronomix


    They normally charge about a tenner, get a grip!!


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    capefear
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    You can now get companies formed for €150 upwards.

    Op where are you based?


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    LordNorbury
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭LordNorbury


    capefear wrote: »
    You can now get companies formed for €150 upwards.

    Op where are you based?

    South Dublin, the CRO charge 100 quid, I'm not being scabby but I want to do it without using a formations specialist, it is something any person running a biz should be able to do I think without having to outsource the task...


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    bbari
    Registered Users Posts: 996 ✭✭✭bbari


    LordNorbury wrote: »
    South Dublin, the CRO charge 100 quid, I'm not being scabby but I want to do it without using a formations specialist, it is something any person running a biz should be able to do I think without having to outsource the task...

    I got one formed last week using an agent and it cost €199. I didn't have to go anywhere and the agent arranged it all. Let us know how you get on and how much it cost at the end.


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    Kelly06
    Closed Accounts Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Kelly06


    LordNorbury wrote: »
    Hi folks,

    Am incorporating a new company, have done this before but used a formation specialist, which I'm not doing any more as it's a waste of 300 Euro and the rest of it for what is simply a form filling processs when the CRO charge 100 Euro if you present the paperwork to them directly as an applicant.

    The only bit of the process I'm not sure about is the last page on the form, it says you have to get a (1) Commissioner for Oaths, or (2) Peace Commissioner or (3) Notary Public or (4) a person authorised by _______________ to take and receive statutory declarations, to sign off on the form.

    Just wondering where would I find such a person above to sign off on the A1 (application to incorporate a company) form?

    All solicitors are commissioners for oaths. All that's being asked on the form is for you to have your signature witnessed. Bring along picure Id and proof of address to any solicitor and they will witness you signing the form the fee is usually €10-15 euro for each signature.

    There will be a peace commissioner in your area also. These people do not have to be practicing solicitors. Your local garda station may have a list of people who are peace commissioners in the area. Pc's don't usually charge fees.

    In general when you see the words "declared before me" it is permissible to use a peace commissioner to witness a signature. When you see "sworn before me" you must have a practicing solicitor/ commissioner for oaths witness the signature.

    Notary public's are rarer than the previous two. The only time I have seen a requirement for a notary public to witness was in the case of an application for dual citizenship of another country on behalf of a irish national child who was born in that other country to irish parents.


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    delahuntv
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭delahuntv


    LordNorbury wrote: »
    Thanks, I'm trying to avoid getting saddled by a solicitor!

    bad attitude for someone going into business.

    Having a solicitor the company uses for all legal work is very handy and not expensive.


    In any case a witness signature as commissioner for oath has a fixed charge of €10.


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    capefear
    Registered Users Posts: 773 ✭✭✭capefear


    OP send me a PM and I'll sign the form if you haven't got it sorted as I'm a PC


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    pedroeibar1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    LordNorbury wrote: »
    South Dublin, the CRO charge 100 quid, I'm not being scabby but I want to do it without using a formations specialist, it is something any person running a biz should be able to do I think without having to outsource the task...

    If you have to post here asking about how to find a Comm. for Oaths, I dread to think of the amount of time wasted in the formation task and the results obtained.:rolleyes:


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    LordNorbury
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭LordNorbury


    pedroeibar1 wrote: »
    If you have to post here asking about how to find a Comm. for Oaths, I dread to think of the amount of time wasted in the formation task and the results obtained.:rolleyes:

    Stupid pointless contribution, I'm in my 40's and got through the last 20 years of adulthood without needing the direct services of a Commissioner for Oaths, hence why I asked on the forum. If you have nothing relevant to say on the subject maybe don't bother saying anything at all.

    Thanks to all on thread, got it sorted today.


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    pedronomix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 997 ✭✭✭pedronomix


    Having observed your comments and thinking on this topic and on commercial rates, I would think you will need a lot more than luck in the business!


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    LordNorbury
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭LordNorbury


    pedronomix wrote: »
    Having observed your comments and thinking on this topic and on commercial rates, I would think you will need a lot more than luck in the business!

    You haven't a clue who I am or what I do so your views are completely baseless not to mention irrelevant and if you want to discuss commercial rates there is another thread on that subject, this thread isn't for that.


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    pedroeibar1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    LordNorbury wrote: »
    Stupid pointless contribution, I'm in my 40's and got through the last 20 years of adulthood without needing the direct services of a Commissioner for Oaths, hence why I asked on the forum. If you have nothing relevant to say on the subject maybe don't bother saying anything at all.
    I suppose you have a point.
    My post – and those of many others - was to show the futility of wasting what most would regard as valuable managerial resources at a critical time in a task similar to recreating the wheel. Company formation is a precise, focussed but mundane task. There are specialists out there who do it very cheaply and very well because they are geared to do it on a production line basis. If you want to DIY, off you go, but, having been involved in the launch of several companies I'd be amazed if you (a) got it right first time and (b) made any savings.
    To me, your posts are an excellent illustration of why a quarter of all new businesses fail in year 1 and a half are gone by end year 3. Misplaced focus.

    Best of luck with whatever you are at, you will need it. (And – even if you get it right – you will have to redo your company format within 18 months.) But I suppose you know about all that anyway.....


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