The Vladimir Putin appreciation thread.

Gatling

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

Putin didn't have to do anything

He couldn't do anything

Have the russian airforce found anything yet

gandalf

Gringo180 wrote: »

A third world country that has been under sanctions by the Americans has done it for the last few decades(they dont even have to get into debt to go to college) so surely the Russians can too

Yes but Russians have a Mafioso leadership class that is bleeding the economy dry of billions as well.

Billy86

Gringo180 wrote: »

And yet it still provides free healthcare to all its citizens. Unlike the richest country in the world, were military spending seems more important than there peoples well being.

You'll struggle to find almost anyone here who thinks the US healthcare system is (edit) anything but a rotten joke, but that's hardly an area to be bragging about when life expectancy in Russia ranks below North Korea, Kyrgyzstan, Guatemala and Suriname as per the WHO, at #110 in the entire world.

And Syria, Iraq, Belize, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, etc by the UN (though beating North Korea out by about 1-2 weeks' expectancy!), who have them at #126 in the world.

For reference the US is #31 and #43 respectively in those lists; Ireland is at #19 and #23 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

Billy86

gandalf wrote: »

Oh absolutely the Americans are messed up from that perspective. The question is how long can Russia continue to offer free healthcare with no economy.

In 2014, they closed 28 hospitals and laid off 10,000 healthcare staff in Moscow alone - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/thousands-of-hospital-staff-to-be-sacked-in-russian-healthcare-reforms-9891710.html

Gringo180

Billy86 wrote: »

You'll struggle to find almost anyone here who thinks the US healthcare system is a rotten joke, but that's hardly an area to be bragging about when life expectancy in Russia ranks below North Korea, Kyrgyzstan, Guatemala and Suriname as per the WHO, at #110 in the entire world.

And Syria, Iraq, Belize, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, etc by the UN (though beating North Korea out by about 1-2 weeks' expectancy!), who have them at #126 in the world.

For reference the US is #31 and #43 respectively in those lists; Ireland is at #19 and #23 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

Take there climate into account for life expectancy. I wouldnt think you would live too long in the likes of Siberia.

Billy86

Gringo180 wrote: »

Take there climate into account for life expectancy. I wouldnt think you would live too long in the likes of Siberia.

Doesn't explain how while Russia is #110 with the WHO and #126 with the UN life expectancy list, Canada ranks 12th best in the world on both of them.

Norway, Sweden and Iceland are all in the top 20 on both lists, with Finland at #21 and #26, respectively.

You'll need to look elsewhere for the reason life expectancy in Russia is so low.

cnocbui

Yay, great news, we have yet another incident to admire the great Impaler for.

A Russian investigative journalist who wrote about the deaths of mercenaries in Syria has died in hospital after falling from his fifth-floor flat.

Maxim Borodin was found badly injured by neighbours in Yekaterinburg and taken to hospital, where he later died.

Local officials said no suicide note was found but the incident was unlikely to be of a criminal nature.

However, a friend revealed Borodin had said his flat had been surrounded by security men a day earlier.

Vyacheslav Bashkov described Borodin as a "principled, honest journalist" and said Borodin had contacted him at five o'clock in the morning on 11 April saying there was "someone with a weapon on his balcony and people in camouflage and masks on the staircase landing".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43781351

What a lowlife cowardly scumbag he is.

cnocbui

I expect the next accidental death will be Nastya Rybka, poor thing.

Cheerful Spring

Putin is sending reinforcements to Syria about time. A boat loaded with Russian tanks has just passed Turkey on its way to Syria. Putin should keep it up and end the war and destroy the jihadists.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Putin is sending reinforcements to Syria about time. A boat loaded with Russian tanks has just passed Turkey on its way to Syria. Putin should keep it up and end the war and destroy the jihadists.

Ahhhhhh more russian crap to get blown up ....

Cheerful Spring

Tea drinker wrote: »

Russia is quite cornered now... might have been able to agree limited strikes rather than game change in Syria, but the follow on US sanctions could be grim reading for old Putin.

Russia has very little trade with America they can't do much to harm them. Russia and China will tank the US economy eventually they are moving away from purchasing oil with dollars.

Discodog

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Putin is sending reinforcements to Syria about time. A boat loaded with Russian tanks has just passed Turkey on its way to Syria. Putin should keep it up and end the war and destroy the jihadists.

You mean anyone who opposes Assad

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

China will tank the US economy eventually they are moving away from purchasing oil with dollars.

Not russia thought .

China needs America and America needs china .

Putin gets Assad and not a lot else

mcmoustache

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Russia has very little trade with America they can't do much to harm them. Russia and China will tank the US economy eventually they are moving away from purchasing oil with dollars.

China's interest is China and they're achieving it with strong trade with the US. These are the two world powers now.

China has come a long way. They're like that kid in school who had a tough family life but in his thirties has a good job, a wife and a family. Russia is like the fairly cool kid in school who had a part time job and a car but now in his thirties is driving the same car and sniffing glue.

In the interests of fairness, the US is that cool kid with rich parents who had all the latest consoles. In his thirties, he's just about holding it together with self medication and has a lot of credit cards and a shaky property portfolio.

Discodog

China has focused on world trade whilst Putin is obsessed with dominance & isolation. China manufactures everything, Russia nothing.

Surkov, 53, a longtime Putin aide who served as his top domestic-policy strategist for many years and currently works as the presidential adviser on Ukraine, wrote that the 2014 split with the West over Ukraine marked the beginning of a new era in which Russia faces "100 years (200? 300?) of geopolitical solitude."

https://www.rferl.org/a/putin-adviser-surkov-says-russia-abandoning-hopes-integrating-with-west-loneliness-isolation-/29155700.html

el diablo

cnocbui wrote: »

Yay, great news, we have yet another incident to admire the great Impaler for.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43781351

What a lowlife cowardly scumbag he is.

Have you ever considered the possibility that the propaganda wing of the UK government is probably the last place you should be getting your Syria/Russia/Assad related news from? :rolleyes:

TerrorFirmer

el diablo wrote: »

Have you ever considered the possibility that the propaganda wing of the UK government is probably the last place you should be getting your Syria/Russia/Assad related news from? :rolleyes:

While I don't believe everything said about Russia or Syria in the mainstream, the BBC is certainly not the propaganda wing of the UK Government and it's a tad reaching to claim it is.

el diablo

Or Sky News.

Billy86

I always knew ad breaks were nothing but a big British conspiracy.

Dinarius

Everything Putin does is a distraction from a domestic reality he can’t (or is unwilling to) face up to.

Russia is screwed.

As someone pointed out yesterday it has an economy the size of Netherlands and Belgium combined.

The oligarchs (Putin amongst them) who have raped and pillaged the country have bled it dry.

Almost exactly 100 years since its first revolution against industrial scale criminality, Russia needs another revolution. The sooner Putin and his brown-nosers are swinging from lamp posts the better.

The fear is that this constant need for distraction will escalate (possibly accidentally) into something that will bring us all down.

Putin does what he says he’ll do, but for all the wrong reasons.

D.

Gatling

el diablo wrote: »

Or Sky News.

Done to death for the last week ,

Tell us all about russian media and censorship

mcmoustache

el diablo wrote: »

Or Sky News.

I AM OUTRAGED!!!! British Government owned Sky News CENSORING man so they could show ads. IT'S A DISGRACE!!!

beefburrito

mcmoustache wrote: »

I AM OUTRAGED!!!! British Government owned Sky News CENSORING man so they could show ads. IT'S A DISGRACE!!!

Fckn typical

badabing106

el diablo wrote: »

Or Sky News.

It's a very rational and logical point of view from a former commander in the British army. But he went against the narrative, of Britain standing tall and proud in the face of injustice . You could hear the producer screaming in that girl's ear to cut him off. The public will swallow anything in the mainstream media

Gatling

badabing106 wrote: »

You could hear the gormless producer screaming in that girl's ear to cut him off.

Nothing like a bit of makey upey on a monday evening

badabing106

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

While I don't believe everything said about Russia or Syria in the mainstream, the BBC is certainly not the propaganda wing of the UK Government and it's a tad reaching to claim it is.

The fake footage by the BBC last year was damning. They hired actors to pretend they were suffering from a chemical attack in Syria .They digitally altered comments by a medical person to fake her saying it was a result of a "chemical".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcgkAmwW5Wg

Discodog

badabing106 wrote: »

The fake footage by the BBC last year was damning. They hired actors to pretend they were suffering from a chemical attack in Syria .They digitally altered comments by a medical person to fake her saying it was a result of a "chemical".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcgkAmwW5Wg

I think I would rather believe the BBC

Billy86

Dinarius wrote: »

The oligarchs (Putin amongst them) who have raped and pillaged the country have bled it dry.

And that, right there, is the key reason why life expectancy in Russia is in line with North Korea, comfortably outside the top 100 in the world according to both the WHO and UN, while nations of similar climates (Canada, Norway, Iceland, Sweden, Finland) enjoy amongst the highest life expectancy rates in the world.

Billy86

badabing106 wrote: »

You could hear the producer screaming in that girl's ear to cut him off.

I'm listening to this on really good quality headphones, with the volume turned up. Please tell me what point in the 70 second video I need to skip to, to hear this?

jacksie66

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