The Vladimir Putin appreciation thread.

Shurimgreat

fran17 wrote: »

Sure what has Putin to do with it?

The anti aircraft missile system came across the Russian border and went back across the following day. Is that enough for you? He supplies the weapons and most of the men too.

It's like an adult giving a loaded gun to a child and when the child kills a few people, saying "nothing to do with me".

Grayson

The_Valeyard wrote: »

He is sh*te at it. He keeps using the Chronosphere to go back in time and try again.

I heard he was the voice of Tanya in the Command and Conquer games.

Thomas_.

fran17 wrote: »

Pro western Ukranians fighting pro eastern Ukranians for Ukranian land,that's a civil war in my book anyway.There is absolutely no evidence to prove that Russian forces are active in the region,there's lots of claims in western media,but no evidence.You really have to free yourself from the media spin,these are the exact same media outlets who refused to report on the Edward Snowden revelations.

Well, you can have your opinion but for myself, I don´t trust Putin and I regard him as one of those people who pull the strings behind the scenes to achieve their aim. He´s rather cunning in using the pro-Russian sentiments and he does support them whether he admits it or not is just a matter of bringing up any evidence that he does. Without the backing of Putin, the separatists might have lost the plot already last year.

I say this apart from the media spin. To me he´s nothing but a small imperialist who would like the see the USSR rise again, better sooner than later. It´s got probably not so much to do with a revival of Communism, it´s got more to do with power and bringing Russia back to the level as a world power with him at the top of it.

Vlad Dog Putin

fran17 wrote: »

There is absolutely no evidence to prove that Russian forces are active in the region.

The evidence is Overwhelming, the western governments are only looking after the wellbeing of their citizens by not showing it to them as it would only Overwhelm them, and nobody wants to be responsible for that.

Grayson

fran17 wrote: »

Pro western Ukranians fighting pro eastern Ukranians for Ukranian land,that's a civil war in my book anyway.There is absolutely no evidence to prove that Russian forces are active in the region,there's lots of claims in western media,but no evidence.You really have to free yourself from the media spin,these are the exact same media outlets who refused to report on the Edward Snowden revelations.

What about Crimea? They did kinda invade and take it over.

Vlad Dog Putin

Shurimgreat wrote: »

FFS, as part of the Minsk agreement, the pro Russian fighters agreed to pull back an ultra modern multiple rocket launcher

We have been told Russia army is no match for NATO, Russia weapons old and not very good, so are you telling us NATO is arming the pro Russian Fighters with ultra modern multiple rocket launchers?

GalwayGuitar

I admire him. A real man who made is country strong again, and he's the only one who can stand up to the lunatics in Washington.

Guy:Incognito

GalwayGuitar wrote: »

I admire him. A real man who made is country strong again, and he's the only one who can stand up to the lunatics in Washington.

Are they not severely struggling financially?

The_Valeyard

Grayson wrote: »

I heard he was the voice of Tanya in the Command and Conquer games.

That was only a rumour.


I heard he was and is Kane.

KANE LIVES!!!!!

Vlad Dog Putin

GalwayGuitar wrote: »

I admire him. A real man.

real man in europe is conchita wurst, testosterone to be banned, feminists win, how we laugh in mother Russia!

AndyBoBandy

I believe he makes a mean Key Lime Pie

Thomas_.

GalwayGuitar wrote: »

I admire him. A real man who made is country strong again, and he's the only one who can stand up to the lunatics in Washington.

You might as well say that you´d admire Mao and all the other mass killers because they were "strong men who made their country strong again".

I prefer those you call "the lunatics" in Washington to the likes of Putin, at least they give you some freedom.

Shurimgreat

Vlad Dog Putin wrote: »

We have been told Russia army is no match for NATO, Russia weapons old and not very good, so are you telling us NATO is arming the pro Russian Fighters with ultra modern multiple rocket launchers?

The Russian side had the modern rocket system.

Vlad Dog Putin

Thomas_. wrote: »

I prefer those you call "the lunatics" in Washington to the likes of Putin, at least they give you some freedom.

Yes, freedom to have all your electronic communications intercepted and stored incase need to blackmail, freedom USA style

Vlad Dog Putin

Shurimgreat wrote: »

The Russian side had the modern rocket system.

Pfff, not what hollywood say

Shurimgreat

Vlad Dog Putin wrote: »

Yes, freedom to have all your electronic communications intercepted and stored incase need to blackmail, freedom USA style

You know there was a guy around here called woodrow wyatt who was banned I believe yesterday. You wouldn't be any relation? Just curious. A very similar "I love Russia" style of posting too.

Vlad Dog Putin

who woodrow wyatt?

robindch

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

His steadfast resolve in the face of a proxy war being waged in Ukraine has to be admired, a war that would never have happened if billions weren't poured into Ukraine to kickstart a coup.

I arrived back into Dublin from Kiev late Tuesday night, one year almost to the minute since I arrived back from seeing the Maidan protest first-hand, as well as its descent into mayhem.

In the offchance you're not trolling - and in the happy chance that you get a chance to visit that beautiful city (and fares are very cheap just now) - I suggest you try to avoid saying anything like that to anybody there.

People in Kiev take a dim view indeed of having their country invaded, their citizens murdered and their country cut to pieces by the maniac you appear to admire.

pcardin

fran17 wrote: »

Pro western Ukranians fighting pro eastern Ukranians for Ukranian land,that's a civil war in my book anyway.There is absolutely no evidence to prove that Russian forces are active in the region,there's lots of claims in western media,but no evidence.You really have to free yourself from the media spin,these are the exact same media outlets who refused to report on the Edward Snowden revelations.

lol, so naive. Of course tanks and bombs could be bought on eBay sure no problem. :pac::D

Vlad Dog Putin

pcardin wrote: »

lol, so naive. Of course tanks and bombs could be bought on eBay sure no problem. :pac::D

No need to buy, become militant islamist, USA arm you to the teeth for free!

pcardin

Vlad Dog Putin wrote: »

Yes, freedom to have all your electronic communications intercepted and stored incase need to blackmail, freedom USA style

Ha ha ha, yes, freedom having all foreign internet blocked, communications intercepted, anti government press shut down, journalists killed, freedom PUTIN style. :pac:
Propoganda has reached you well. :rolleyes:

pcardin

Vlad Dog Putin wrote: »

No need to buy, become militant islamist, USA arm you to the teeth for free!

aha, with Russian made garbage brought into country by Russian 'humanitarian help'. Yes, we know this.

cnocbui

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

He has to be one of the greatest leaders the world has ever known, not just a stuffed suit like his wooden American counterpart. His steadfast resolve in the face of a proxy war being waged in Ukraine has to be admired, a war that would never have happened if billions weren't poured into Ukraine to kickstart a coup.

Like him or loathe him there is no doubt that Vladimir Putin is a very shrewd operator who is consistently one step ahead of the game.

Yeah, a great leader in the mould of Genghis Khan, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot. Yes, his steadfast resolve to use the power of a state to eliminate and kill personal opponents is to be greatly admired.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02582/LITVINENKO_2582317b.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01557/yushchenko_1557485c.jpg

Oh, Ukraine, the place where elections aren't rigged in the favour of pro-Russian candidates, pro-western candidates aren't poisoned and pro-western former leaders aren't thrown in jail on trumped-up charges and where you get a 123% voter turnout in Crimea in a referendum advocating joining Russia.

Perhaps if you ask nicely, dear Vlad would let you lick the testosterone laden sweat from his admirable hairy armpit.

Then there are the murdered Journalist - got to admire him for that too:

56 Journalists Killed in Russia/Motive Confirmed

Akhmednabi Akhmednabiyev, Novoye Delo
July 9, 2013, in Semender, Russia
Mikhail Beketov, Khimkinskaya Pravda
April 8, 2013, in Khimki, Russia
Kazbek Gekkiyev, VGTRK
December 5, 2012, in Nalchik, Russia
Gadzhimurad Kamalov, Chernovik
December 15, 2011, in Makhachkala, Russia
Abdulmalik Akhmedilov, Hakikat and Sogratl
August 11, 2009, in Makhachkala , Russia
Natalya Estemirova, Novaya Gazeta, Kavkazsky Uzel
July 15, 2009, in between Grozny and Gazi-Yurt , Russia
Anastasiya Baburova, Novaya Gazeta
January 19, 2009, in Moscow , Russia
Telman (Abdulla) Alishayev, TV-Chirkei
September 2, 2008, in Makhachkala, Russia
Magomed Yevloyev, Ingushetiya
August 31, 2008, in Nazran, Russia
Ivan Safronov, Kommersant
March 2, 2007, in Moscow, Russia
Maksim Maksimov, Gorod
November 30, 2006, in St. Petersburg, Russia
Anna Politkovskaya, Novaya Gazeta
October 7, 2006, in Moscow, Russia
Vagif Kochetkov, Trud and Tulsky Molodoi Kommunar
January 8, 2006, in Tula, Russia
Magomedzagid Varisov, Novoye Delo
June 28, 2005, in Makhachkala, Russia
Pavel Makeev, Puls
May 21, 2005, in Azov, Russia
Paul Klebnikov, Forbes Russia
July 9, 2004, in Moscow, Russia
Adlan Khasanov, Reuters
May 9, 2004, in Grozny, Russia
Aleksei Sidorov, Tolyatinskoye Obozreniye
October 9, 2003, in Togliatti, Russia
Yuri Shchekochikhin, Novaya Gazeta
July 3, 2003, in Moscow, Russia
Roddy Scott, Frontline
September 26, 2002, in Galashki Region, Ingushetia, Russia
Valery Ivanov, Tolyatinskoye Obozreniye
April 29, 2002, in Togliatti, Russia
Natalya Skryl, Nashe Vremya
March 9, 2002, in Rostov-on-Don, Russia
Eduard Markevich, Novy Reft
September 18, 2001, in Reftinsky, Sverdlovsk Region, Russia
Igor Domnikov, Novaya Gazeta
July 16, 2000, in Moscow, Russia
Aleksandr Yefremov, Nashe Vremya
May 12, 2000, in Chechnya, Russia
Vladimir Yatsina, ITAR-TASS
February 20, 2000, in Chechnya, Russia
Shamil Gigayev, Nokh Cho TV
October 29, 1999, in Shaami Yurt, Russia
Ramzan Mezhidov, TV Tsentr
October 29, 1999, in Shaami Yurt, Russia
Supian Ependiyev, Groznensky Rabochy
October 27, 1999, in Grozny, Russia
Anatoly Levin-Utkin, Yurichichesky Peterburg Segodnya
August 24, 1998, in St. Petersburg, Russia
Larisa Yudina, Sovietskaya Kalmykia Segodnya
June 8, 1998, in Elista, Russia
Ramzan Khadzhiev, Russian Public TV (ORT)
August 11, 1996, in Grozny, Russia
Viktor Mikhailov, Zabaikalsky Rabochy
May 12, 1996, in Chita, Russia
Nina Yefimova, Vozrozhdeniye
May 9, 1996, in Grozny, Russia
Nadezhda Chaikova, Obshchaya Gazeta
March 30, 1996, in Gehki, Russia
Viktor Pimenov, Vaynakh Television
March 11, 1996, in Grozny, Russia
Felix Solovyov, freelance
February 26, 1996, in Moscow, Russia
Vadim Alferyev, Segodnyashnyaya Gazeta
December 27, 1995, in Krasnoyarsk, Russia
Shamkhan Kagirov, Rossiskaya Gazeta and Vozrozheniye
December 13, 1995, in near Grozny, Russia
Natalya Alyakina, Focus and RUFA
June 17, 1995, in Budyonnovsk, Russia
Farkhad Kerimov, Associated Press TV
May 29, 1995, in Chechnya, Russia
Vladislav Listyev, Russian Public Television (OTR)
March 1, 1995, in Moscow, Russia
Viatcheslav Rudnev, Freelancer
February 17, 1995, in Kaluga, Russia
Jochen Piest, Stern
January, 10, 1995, in Chervlyonna, Russia
Vladimir Zhitarenko, Krasnaya Zvezda
January 1, 1995, in Grozny, Russia
Cynthia Elbaum, Freelancer
December 22, 1994, in Grozny, Russia
Dmitry Kholodov, Mosckovski Komsomolets
October 17, 1994, in Moscow, Russia
Yuri Soltis, Interfax
June 12, 1994, in Moscow, Russia
Aleksandr Smirnov, Molodyozhny Kuryer
October 4, 1993, in Moscow, Russia
Aleksandr Sidelnikov, Lennauchfilm Studio
October 4, 1993, in Moscow, Russia
Sergei Krasilnikov, Ostankino Television Company
October 3, 1993, in Moscow, Russia
Yvan Scopan, TF-1 Television Company
October 3, 1993, in Moscow, Russia
Vladimir Drobyshev, Nature and Man
October 3, 1993, in Moscow, Russia
Igor Belozyorov, Ostankino State Broadcasting Company
October 3, 1993, in Moscow, Russia
Rory Peck, ARD Television Company
October 3, 1993, in Moscow, Russia
Dmitry Krikoryants, Expresskhronika
April 14, 1993, in Grozny, Russia


24 Journalists Killed in Russia/Motive Unconfirmed

Vyacheslav Yaroshenko, Korruptsiya i Prestupnost
June 29, 2009, in Rostov-on-Don, Russia
Shafig Amrakhov, RIA 51
January 5, 2009, in Murmansk, Russia
Ilyas Shurpayev, Channel One
March 21, 2008, in Moscow, Russia
Gadzhi Abashilov, Dagestan
March 21, 2008, in Makhachkala , Russia
Vyacheslav Ifanov, Novoye Televideniye Aleiska
April 5, 2007, in Aleisk, Russia
Yevgeny Gerasimenko, Saratovsky Rasklad
July 26, 2006, in Saratov, Russia
Ilya Zimin, NTV
February 26, 2006, in Moscow, Russia
Dmitry Shvets, TV-21 Northwestern Broadcasting
April 18, 2003, in Murmansk, Russia
Sergei Kalinovsky, Moskovsky Komsomolets
Date unknown, in Smolensk, Russia
Adam Tepsurgayev, Reuters
November 21, 2000, in Chechnya, Russia
Sergey Ivanov, Lada-TV
October 3, 2000, in Togliatti, Russia
Iskandar Khatloni, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty
September 21, 2000, in Moscow, Russia
Sergey Novikov, Radio Vesna
July 26, 2000, in Smolensk, Russia
Vadim Rudenko, ORT
June 30, 1999, in Moscow, Russia
Valentina Neverova, Pravo
February 10, 1999, in Samara, Russia
Ivan Fedyunin, Bryanskie Izvestia
March 31, 1998, in Bryansk, Russia
Valery Krivosheyev, Komsomolskaya Pravda
September 6, 1997, in Lipetsk, Russia
Oleg Slabynko, Russian Television Channel 2
January 25, 1996, in Moscow, Russia
Andrew Shumack, Freelancer
July 28, 1995, in an unknown place, Russia
Sergei Ivanov, Nevskoye Vremya
June 15, 1995, in an unknown place, Russia
Maxim Chabalin, Nevskoye Vremya
March 1, 1995, in an unknown place, Russia
Felix Titov, Nevskoye Vremya
March 1, 1995, in an unknown place, Russia
Andrei Aizderdzis, Who's Who
April 26, 1994, in Khimki, Russia
Sergei Dubov, Vsyo Dlya Vas, International and Moscow Business Week
February 1, 1994, in Novoye Vremya, Russia

https://www.cpj.org/killed/europe/russia/

That is just a few, there are several hundred more according to Wikipedia.

Vlad Dog Putin

pcardin wrote: »

Ha ha ha, yes, freedom having all foreign internet blocked,

Russian internet full of picture of irina shayk, gia skova and many more girl.
West internet picture of conchita wurst, mary harney, and many more badgers arse.

Which you prefer?

Karl Stein

Thomas_. wrote: »

I prefer those you call "the lunatics" in Washington to the likes of Putin, at least they give you some freedom.

What you mean is you'd prefer to live in the US than Russia which is a no-brainer and false dilemma.

I'm not sure you'd be so enamoured with the lunatics in Washington if you were an Iraqi.

Vlad Dog Putin

cnocbui wrote: »

Then there are the murdered Journalist - got to admire him for that too:

That is just a few, there are several hundred more according to Wikipedia.

Yes like Gary Webb, he rite story in news paper about CIA create crack cocaine trade.
When he realise he was wrong and CIA good guys he do honourable thing and commit sucide, shot himself twice in back of head.

pcardin

Vlad Dog Putin wrote: »

Russian internet full of picture of irina shayk, gia skova and many more girl.
West internet picture of conchita wurst, mary harney, and many more badgers arse.

Which you prefer?

You obviously showed who you are commie. And you seem to have a twisted mind and definitely wrong internet connection here in west if that's all you can see. :D:D

in other words - Не пизди!

Guy:Incognito

Karl Stein wrote: »

I'm not sure you'd be so enamoured with the lunatics in Washington if you were an Iraqi.

whereas it was great craic with everyones mate Saddam

I hear he is being introduced in the next season of " heil honey, I'm home"

B_Wayne

Vlad Dog Putin wrote: »

No need to buy, become militant islamist, USA arm you to the teeth for free!

Your English is weak, reminded of this article.:rolleyes: What's the pay like?
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/10/russias-online-comment-propaganda-army/280432/

Tony EH

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

He has to be one of the greatest leaders the world has ever known, not just a stuffed suit like his wooden American counterpart. His steadfast resolve in the face of a proxy war being waged in Ukraine has to be admired, a war that would never have happened if billions weren't poured into Ukraine to kickstart a coup.

Like him or loathe him there is no doubt that Vladimir Putin is a very shrewd operator who is consistently one step ahead of the game.

He may be sticking it up some very unsavory folk emerging from the Ukraine, but that doesn't make him any less of a C U Next Tuesday.

Vlad Dog Putin

B_Wayne wrote: »

Your English is weak, reminded of this article.:rolleyes: What's the pay like?


all you eat cabbage soup, 3 time a day. Make sure to sleep with window open!

Tony EH

Vinculus wrote: »

Apparently his favorite tv show is Fair City.

Oh, I've gone right off of him now. :mad:

pcardin

Vlad Dog Putin wrote: »

B_Wayne wrote: »

Your English is weak, reminded of this article.:rolleyes: What's the pay like?


all you eat cabbage soup, 3 time a day. Make sure to sleep with window open!

Can you tell us why Russian people when they loose argument switch to offence and aggression?

Karl Stein

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

whereas it was great craic with everyones mate Saddam

Saddam the US stooge until he attacked Kuwait? No it certainly wasn't great craic but I'd hazard a guess it was more stable and less ISIS-y than now.

ShowMeTheCash

cnocbui wrote: »

Yeah, a great leader in the mould of Genghis Khan, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot. Yes, his steadfast resolve to use the power of a state to eliminate and kill personal opponents is to be greatly admired.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02582/LITVINENKO_2582317b.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01557/yushchenko_1557485c.jpg

Oh, Ukraine, the place where elections aren't rigged in the favour of pro-Russian candidates, pro-western candidates aren't poisoned and pro-western former leaders aren't thrown in jail on trumped-up charges and where you get a 123% voter turnout in Crimea in a referendum advocating joining Russia.

Perhaps if you ask nicely, dear Vlad would let you lick the testosterone laden sweat from his admirable hairy armpit.

Then there are the murdered Journalist - got to admire him for that too:


https://www.cpj.org/killed/europe/russia/

That is just a few, there are several hundred more according to Wikipedia.

So?

America and CIA have spent decades creating instability in nations and with leaders that do not play ball.
They reckon as many as 2 million civilians died in the vietnam war alone.

Media is controlled, they will paint a picture of ISIS and Crazy Vlad with one hand and Freedom fighting West with the other!

If you want to do a tally of people killed per nation by other nations who you reckon is going to top that poll?

Shurimgreat

pcardin wrote: »

Vlad Dog Putin wrote: »

Can you tell us why Russian people when they loose argument switch to offence and aggression?

And veiled threats too. A lot of Russians seemed to be stuck in a 1950s timewarp when their country was actually taken seriously.

My own view is Russia is beginning to crumble and the leaders are trying to distract the people.

Vlad Dog Putin

pcardin wrote: »

Vlad Dog Putin wrote: »

Can you tell us why Russian people when they loose argument switch to offence and aggression?

kiss & cuddle lead to sex.
argument lead to fight , what you no understand?

Shurimgreat

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

So?

America and CIA have spent decades creating instability in nations and with leaders that do not play ball.
They reckon as many as 2 million civilians died in the vietnam war alone.

Media is controlled, they will paint a picture of ISIS and Crazy Vlad with one hand and Freedom fighting West with the other!

If you want to do a tally of people killed per nation by other nations who you reckon is going to top that poll?

I'd imagine the USSR would be near the top. How far back should we go? Do internal purges, organised famines, etc count?

pcardin

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

So?

America and CIA have spent decades creating instability in nations and with leaders that do not play ball.
They reckon as many as 2 million civilians died in the vietnam war alone.

Media is controlled, they will paint a picture of ISIS and Crazy Vlad with one hand and Freedom fighting West with the other!

If you want to do a tally of people killed per nation by other nations who you reckon is going to top that poll?

Do you want to know how many million civilians died in soviet union from WWII until 1990? 20 million and that is much much more than in Vietnam war. 20 million is only acknowledged number, so many people went missing and never found so actual number is higher. No one is saying America is good but painting Russia as something good is just pathetic.

ShowMeTheCash

Shurimgreat wrote: »

I'd imagine the USSR would be near the top. How far back should we go? Do internal purges, organised famines, etc count?

Read what I said!

The fact that over 5 million starved in Russia in the second world war is of no interest to me.

I am saying one nation going into another nation and killing wholesale!

ShowMeTheCash

pcardin wrote: »

Do you want to know how many million civilians died in soviet union from WWII until 1990? 20 million and that is much much more than in Vietnam war. 20 million is only acknowledged number, so many people went missing and never found so actual number is higher. No one is saying America is good but painting Russia as something good is just pathetic.

Again read what I said.

Also a nation starving its people is madness but I am talking about nations like US or Briatain going into other countries and essentially wiping them out!

Maximus Alexander

It's hard to know what to believe when it comes to Putin, because I don't know how much I'm being influenced by western propaganda.

I would need to do a bit of actual research to come to a conclusion on this one.

Shurimgreat

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

Read what I said!

The fact that over 5 million starved in Russia in the second world war is of no interest to me.

I am saying one nation going into another nation and killing wholesale!

Ah grand, do you mean the almost ten million Ukranians in the 1930s by the way, nothing to do with WW2, everything to do with Russian policies of collectivisation and theft.

As for going into another nation and killing wholesale, I take it you have convienently forgotten about Russia invading Afghanistan. I will dig out the number of deaths in a minute but I think it was somewhere in the order of 1.5 million.

But hey it wasn't America who caused those deaths so you don't care, right? You only care about deaths caused by America.

Vlad Dog Putin

pcardin wrote: »

Do you want to know how many million civilians died in soviet union from WWII until 1990? 20 million and that is much much more than in Vietnam war. 20 million is only acknowledged number, so many people went missing and never found so actual number is higher. No one is saying America is good but painting Russia as something good is just pathetic.

how many negroid king and queens die by sweat to death in hot mississippi sun to pick cotton?

Vlad Dog Putin

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

It's hard to know what to believe when it comes to Putin, because I don't know how much I'm being influenced by western propaganda.

I would need to do a bit of actual research to come to a conclusion on this one.

if putin bad man who want to blow up europe, why he daughter live in netherlands?

robindch

Shurimgreat

Vlad Dog Putin wrote: »

if putin bad man who want to blow up europe, why he daughter live in netherlands?

She used to live in the Netherlands. And do you know the reason she left?

I'm sure you do, you're Russian after all!

Boskowski

Just curious what people think since so much is being said about Russian misinformation.

Do you believe that the western media is inherently more truthful than non western media and do you believe that western mainstream media are a reliable source for matters where the west has a vested interest?

Do you believe that free speech truly exists in the west?

Vlad Dog Putin

the west fixated by hitler, why you say?
the west like hitler last days is bunkered down afraid of mother Russia, in bunker that have no idea of real world, only fantasy, fact on ground no like west imagine.

pcardin

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

Read what I said!

The fact that over 5 million starved in Russia in the second world war is of no interest to me.

I am saying one nation going into another nation and killing wholesale!

Ha Ha...of course, what your kind does to other doesn't count. Only what Americans do count. So typical. Rewriting World History to erase all Russian crimes is also known trick of your comrades.

Citing your words - One nation going into another and killing wholesale - yes, thats what Russians did to Ukraine, yes, that's what Russians did to Baltics, Poland, Finland, and many more.

I remember when after collapse of soviet union, Russia grabbed all the lands, resources weapons and then the argument was - We are the only inheritor of everything Soviet Union owned. later when Russia was called to take responsibility for all war crimes and repressions, purge against humanity the answer was - It's not us, it was Soviet union.