The Vladimir Putin appreciation thread.

JacquesDeLad

2 eggs one cup.

This thread has been heading that way.

obplayer

Egginacup wrote: »

Do we have a source for Putin stating that he would use nuclear warfare to annex The Crimea?

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/16/europe/russia-putin-crimea-nuclear/

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/15/us-russia-putin-yanukovich-idUSKBN0MB0GV20150315

https://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine-abroad/cnn-putin-says-russia-was-ready-to-put-nuclear-forces-on-alert-over-crimea-video-383625.html

obplayer

Egginacup wrote: »

Anyway,

When can we expect any kind of developments regarding MH-17?

It's been 8...9 months now and still there are no updates...not even redress regarding the initial ironclad accusations that the Russians were responsible.

In fact the initial Director of National Intelligence assessment has not even been updated or addresses since July 22, 2014, despite the fact that not only US intelligence has contradicted and in fact refuted any existence of Russian involvement as have the German BND security service.

SO....it's nearly 9 months now since the plane was shot down and the DNI have not updated a single part of their assessment.


Leaving all this aside.....when can we expect Crimea to allow McDonalds back in?

Sources and links?

FloatingVoter

Vlad's alive and well. I took him a lemsip earlier and oiled his handcuffs. Nothing to see here.
Long **** Vlad the mini-Stalin.

Owldshtok

feargale wrote: »

Putin and Berlusconi are best pals. That pretty well says it all.

Sure Vlad is pals with everyone,including Hell Angels Russia

obplayer

Egginacup wrote: »

Might you supply a link to the aforementioned article rather then just allude thereto?

Would that be possible?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31899680

Egginacup

Gatling wrote: »

July you'll have to scrape the egg off

It's a 12 month investigation .

We all know the truth already

The initial assessment hasn't been even updated since last July, despite multiple sources of contradiction from not only within the United States Intelligence Services but also from those within the European Intelligence services who have delivered updated information long after July 2014....yet the DNI assessment has not changed from 5 days after the MH-17 airliner was downed and it was determined, ipso facto, that Russia was and were the perpetrators.

Now, there are some who think that 12 months will somehow show something that could have been shown in 12 minutes were the allegations as truthful as everyone claimed.

The fact remains, that the accusations of Russians shooting down this airliner are becoming more and more fantastic. Not only that but all the arguments and games are becoming flimsy.

obplayer

Egginacup wrote: »

The initial assessment hasn't been even updated since last July, despite multiple sources of contradiction from not only within the United States Intelligence Services but also from those within the European Intelligence services who have delivered updated information long after July 2014....yet the DNI assessment has not changed from 5 days after the MH-17 airliner was downed and it was determined, ipso facto, that Russia was and were the perpetrators.

Now, there are some who think that 12 months will somehow show something that could have been shown in 12 minutes were the allegations as truthful as everyone claimed.

The fact remains, that the accusations of Russians shooting down this airliner are becoming more and more fantastic. Not only that but all the arguments and games are becoming flimsy.

It has been pointed out that it is a 12 month investigation.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=94715771&postcount=1117

I have given replies to two of your posts.

Originally Posted by Coup detat
I was reading today that Putin said in his documentary that he was ready to use nuclear weapons if needed when he annexed Crimea.

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Let's have that which you were reading then.

Reply
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=94716990&postcount=1119

Originally Posted by Coup detat
There was an article in the Irish times, on BBC news as well.

Might you supply a link to the aforementioned article rather then just allude thereto?
Would that be possible?

Reply
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=94717122&postcount=1124

Any comments?

dubscottie

obplayer wrote: »

It has been pointed out that it is a 12 month investigation.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=94715771&postcount=1117

I have given replies to two of your posts.



Reply
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=94716990&postcount=1119



Reply
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=94717122&postcount=1124

Any comments?

Don't expect one from Commieinacup.. If its not on RT its all lies..

Egginacup

obplayer wrote: »

Sources and links?

Well, absent for nearly a year, the proof that the Russians shot down the airliner, proof that John Kerry has stated categorically that he has but can't provide, and yet the Germans can't determine either:

https://consortiumnews.com/2014/10/20/germans-clear-russia-in-mh-17-case/

..whether or not there is any evidence.

Now, I'm only quoting professional ex-intelligence personnel here, so don't use it as my quote:

https://consortiumnews.com/2014/07/29/obama-should-release-ukraine-evidence/

But will we ever see real evidence of BUK systems that were supposed to have brought down MH-17?

Un Croissant

It's good that we are talking about the airliner now. Almost as if we are ignoring what Putin said about Crimea.

What will Egg talk about if it turns out Russia was involved?

cnocbui

Egginacup wrote: »

Well, absent for nearly a year, the proof that the Russians shot down the airliner, proof that John Kerry has stated categorically that he has but can't provide, and yet the Germans can't determine either:

https://consortiumnews.com/2014/10/20/germans-clear-russia-in-mh-17-case/

..whether or not there is any evidence.

Now, I'm only quoting professional ex-intelligence personnel here, so don't use it as my quote:

https://consortiumnews.com/2014/07/29/obama-should-release-ukraine-evidence/

But will we ever see real evidence of BUK systems that were supposed to have brought down MH-17?

I have given links to proof before but you just ignore them. Wonder why?

Here they are again: https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2014/09/08/images-show-the-buk-that-downed-flight-mh17-inside-russia-controlled-by-russian-troops/

https://www.bellingcat.com/tag/mh17/

Elmer Blooker

obplayer wrote: »

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31899680

What point are you trying to make by posting a link to the British Brainwashing Corporation? Hostile forces /NATO are pouring into the Black Sea and Putin puts the country on high alert, whats the big deal. If Russian forces were massing in the Gulf of Mexico the US would do exactly the same.
Bellingcat ..... ouch! established July 15th two days before ......

InTheTrees

Un Croissant wrote: »

What will Egg talk about if it turns out Russia was involved?

He'll tell us how the evil americans drove them to it.

JacquesDeLad

When did Russia Today stop talking about Russia?

It's been years since the channel broadcast anything local. The should call it "Bad Things Happening Outside Russia Today" or BTHORT.

PopePalpatine

Was anyone else listening to The Last Word on Today FM this evening? At around 5:45 they had Bill Browder as a guest, an investor who did business in Russia until 2006 after he ended up on Putin's shit list. Amongst the lawyers he and his firm had hired was Sergei Magnitsky, who ended up beaten to death in 2009 following a horrendous 11 month ordeal being brutally tortured and denied medical treatment while in prison awaiting trial. He has a book out now called "Red Notice" about his experience in Russia.

Egginacup

Gatling wrote: »

July you'll have to scrape the egg off

It's a 12 month investigation .

We all know the truth already

You do, do you?
It's funny that the assessment hasn't been updated since 5 days after the plane was downed. Why is that?
8 months and no change. Nothing about US or German intelligence refuting proof that it was shot down by Russians or separatists using BUK battery.

Some investigation.

Gatling

Egginacup wrote: »

You do, do you?
It's funny that the assessment hasn't been updated since 5 days after the plane was downed. Why is that?
8 months and no change. Nothing about US or German intelligence refuting proof that it was shot down by Russians or separatists using BUK battery.

Some investigation.

You know a lot about civilian airliner shoot down investigations.???

Egginacup

Un Croissant wrote: »

It's good that we are talking about the airliner now. Almost as if we are ignoring what Putin said about Crimea.

What will Egg talk about if it turns out Russia was involved?

The whole Ukraine thing has nothing to do with freedom or democracy or any of those other lame excuses used to hoodwink the naive and the stupid. This is about geopolitics and how Washington want to drive a wedge between any trade agreements between Russia and the EU. If the free trade zone between the EU and Russia were to materialize then Washington would become increasingly isolated and irrelevant on the world stage and they are not prepared to let that happen. All this talk of Russian bellicosity is just an excuse for the US to construct a new iron curtain from the Baltics to the Black Sea in order to thwart any economic cooperation.

Egginacup

dubscottie wrote: »

Don't expect one from Commieinacup.. If its not on RT its all lies..

"Commie" ?
Hardly, since I own two companies. Didn't communism cease to exist in Russia in the early 90's?
Not very bright of you, that quip, was it?

SpaceSasqwatch

Egginacup wrote: »

Hardly, since I own two companies.

you wish :rolleyes:

ohnonotgmail

Egginacup wrote: »

"Commie" ?
Hardly, since I own two companies. Didn't communism cease to exist in Russia in the early 90's?
Not very bright of you, that quip, was it?

It never existed in Russia. It was state capitalism

obplayer

Egginacup wrote: »

"Commie" ?
Hardly, since I own two companies. Didn't communism cease to exist in Russia in the early 90's?
Not very bright of you, that quip, was it?

One wouldn't be Russia today would it?

circadian

I'm genuinely concerned about the outcome of the plane investigation.

If the conclusion they come to lies the blame at Russias door, what next? Further sanctions? The Russian Government is getting increasingly stand offish, which is to be expected. There is every possibility that they could react badly and push back into Ukraine.

A part of me thinks Putin in a shrewd operator and will ride out the storm. Another part of me thinks that he is loosing his grip on reality and becoming a cult of personality.

Honestly though, the results of the investigation will most likely up the ante which doesn't sit well with me given the unpredictability of Russia.

cnocbui

There is next to no doubt the findings will confirm it was a BUK:
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAKBN0MF1ZW20150319

They found a fragment of the BUK complete with A Cyrillic letter and part of a serial number and Janes, amongst others, say it matches a BUK explosive charge.

Fragment shown here: http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/binnenland/bewijs-voor-neerhalen-mh17-door-buk-raket

cnocbui

Ha, Ha, Ha I wonder who around here fits the bill?

19 March 2015

Ukraine conflict: Inside Russia's 'Kremlin troll army'
By Olga Bugorkova BBC Monitoring

Over the past year, Russia has seen an unprecedented rise in the activity of "Kremlin trolls" - bloggers allegedly paid by the state to criticise Ukraine and the West on social media and post favourable comments about the leadership in Moscow.

Though the existence and even whereabouts of the alleged "cyber army" are no secret, recent media reports appear to have revealed some details of how one of the tools of Russian propaganda operates on an everyday basis.
"Troll den"

The Internet Research Agency ("Agentstvo Internet Issledovaniya") employs at least 400 people and occupies an unremarkable office in one of the residential areas in St Petersburg.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31962644

Fallschirmjager

cnocbui wrote: »

There is next to no doubt the findings will confirm it was a BUK:
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAKBN0MF1ZW20150319

They found a fragment of the BUK complete with A Cyrillic letter and part of a serial number and Janes, amongst others, say it matches a BUK explosive charge.

Fragment shown here: http://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/binnenland/bewijs-voor-neerhalen-mh17-door-buk-raket

Honestly won't matter, Russia will just say its some vast conspiracy by the cia and people who want to believe a dictatorship will accept it.

Prediction
Buk shrapnel placed while in Dutch/us/western hands
Or part of another plane shot down with a buk and added by cia/Mossad/joooos
Or our samples taken to Russia show it was air to air missile or magic bullets
But not Russia

And off they will go, it will become like the JFK 'mystery' to the believers...you have seen it already because of the investigation that could lead to war, silence means the cia is covering up.

Roger Hassenforder

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

Honestly won't matter, Russia will just say its some vast conspiracy by the cia and people who want to believe a dictatorship will accept it.

Prediction
Buk shrapnel placed while in Dutch/us/western hands
Or part of another plane shot down with a buk and added by cia/Mossad/joooos
Or our samples taken to Russia show it was air to air missile or magic bullets
But not Russia

And off they will go, it will become like the JFK 'mystery' to the believers...you have seen it already because of the investigation that could lead to war, silence means the cia is covering up.

The Dutch reporter put it there himself.
;-)

Elmer Blooker

How did the Dutch "reporter" know what he was picking up off the ground at the crash site which no doubt was strewn with wreckage.
"Oh look, that looks like a fragment from a BUK missile supplied by Putin himself"
Conclusive damning evidence!!
http://static3.uk.businessinsider.com/image/550b0663dd0895ff7a8b4591-1200-706/screen%20shot%202015-03-19%20at%201.11.07%20pm.png

Apparently the Dutch now dismissing reports, watch how this "story" will be buried and disappear without trace ..... until the next yarn of course!
http://usa24.ws/latest/dutch-dismiss-reports-alleging-mh17-downed-by-buk-missile

cnocbui

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

How did the Dutch "reporter" know what he was picking up off the ground at the crash site which no doubt was strewn with wreckage.
"Oh look, that looks like a fragment from a BUK missile supplied by Putin himself"
Conclusive damning evidence!!
http://static3.uk.businessinsider.com/image/550b0663dd0895ff7a8b4591-1200-706/screen%20shot%202015-03-19%20at%201.11.07%20pm.png

Apparently the Dutch now dismissing reports, watch how this "story" will be buried and disappear without trace ..... until the next yarn of course!
http://usa24.ws/latest/dutch-dismiss-reports-alleging-mh17-downed-by-buk-missile

You are so funny. From your second link - "Full Article at RT.com":rolleyes:

So actually the Dutch have not dismissed the idea, Russians, like yourself, working for RT.com have done that for them. You might as well call that propaganda mouthpiece Kremlin Today.com