The Vladimir Putin appreciation thread.

Gatling

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

That is an unsubstantiated allegation.

No it's not it's a fact ,

Whistle blower ,,,,,,

Jimmy Garlic

The Russian Government has made it very clear that there is no state involvement whatsoever.

Basically what he is saying here is that there are sinister motives behind the allegations.

Gatling

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

The Russian Government

Basically what he is saying here is that there are sinister motives behind the allegations.

Lol yeah they were caught they were identified as the Russian government

gandalf

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

The Russian Government has made it very clear that there is no state involvement whatsoever.

Basically what he is saying here is that there are sinister motives behind the allegations.

This regime doesn't have very good form for telling the truth now does it?

Renegade Mechanic

gandalf wrote: »

This regime doesn't have very good form for telling the truth now does it?

In fairness, we're no better.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-13/thirst-war-sen-inhofe-releases-fake-photos-russian-troops-ukraine

Gatling

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

In fairness, we're no better.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-13/thirst-war-sen-inhofe-releases-fake-photos-russian-troops-ukraine

Russian troops in Ukraine is a fact

gandalf

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

In fairness, we're no better.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-13/thirst-war-sen-inhofe-releases-fake-photos-russian-troops-ukraine

What's this we're stuff. I am not an American?

Jimmy Garlic

Gatling wrote: »

Russian troops in Ukraine is a fact

Ah, another one of your nonsense ''facts''. Total nonsense that you can't prove. The OSCE confirmed that there are no Russian troops in Ukraine. Top brass of the Ukrainian military also confirmed that there are no Russian troops in Ukraine.

Gatling

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Nonsense. Total nonsense that you can't prove. The OSCE confirmed that there are no Russian troops in Ukraine. Top brass of the Ukrainian military also confirmed that there are no Russian troops in Ukraine.

Bull**** Jimmy give over your just making a mockery of yourself

Renegade Mechanic

Gatling wrote: »

Russian troops in Ukraine is a fact

Same as US troops in Syria, no?

Gatling

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Same as US troops in Syria, no?

No the Russian troops in Ukraine along with heavy weapons and armour and hundreds of vehicles

Not Americans in Syria we know that .

Do try harder

ohnonotgmail

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

That is an unsubstantiated allegation.

You believe whatever rubbish you want to believe.

Jimmy Garlic

Gatling wrote: »

Russian troops in Ukraine is a fact

What are the OSCE saying about this?... Nothing, because there is nothing like that to report. They are there every single day on the ground. Are the OSCE working for the Kremlin now?

Grayson

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Same as US troops in Syria, no?

Fixed your post.

Gatling

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LOL

Jimmy Garlic

I caught you out Gatling. You are stumped.

Gatling

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

I caught you out Gatling. You are stumped.

You obviously didn't get this memo

"Vladimir Putin has for the first time admitted the presence of Russian military specialists in east Ukraine.

Russia has repeatedly denied a military presence in the conflict, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. But the Russian president conceded there were military intelligence officers operating in the country "

Lol
No sorry your wrong .


Double stumped lol

Jimmy Garlic

Gatling wrote: »

You obviously didn't get this memo

"Vladimir Putin has for the first time admitted the presence of Russian military specialists in east Ukraine.

Russia has repeatedly denied a military presence in the conflict, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. But the Russian president conceded there were military intelligence officers operating in the country "

Lol
No sorry your wrong .


Double stumped lol

Of course there intelligence officers there. Wouldn't you like to know what's going on just over your border. Intelligence gathering in such situations is standard practice. Now, you were saying that there were Russian troops and large amounts of Russian military hardware.. Any proof?

Renegade Mechanic

Gatling wrote: »

No the Russian troops in Ukraine along with heavy weapons and armour and hundreds of vehicles

Not Americans in Syria we know that .

Do try harder

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0XL0ZE

No the American troops in Syria along with heavy weapons and armour and hundreds of vehicles.

Oh wait that's the "moderates"...

:rolleyes:

Your notion that the Yanks or Europeans are even remotely better than the Russians is laughable.

Gatling

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

No the American troops in Syria

And there's US troops operating in parts of Syria we know that.

Have you an actual point

Gatling

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Of course there intelligence officers there

Still stumped come back when you have an idea what you're actually talking about

Renegade Mechanic

Gatling wrote: »

And there's US troops operating in parts of Syria we know that.

Have you an actual point

The original point I made?
The lack of difference between Russian troops in Ukraine and Us troops in Syria?
To my mind, there's none.

Gatling

"Renegade wrote:

The lack of difference between Russian troops in Ukraine and Us troops in Syria?
To my mind, there's none.

One are fighting terrorist, and the they have acknowledged that they are there along with French, German and other countries forces

The others (Russians) trying to annex another part of Ukraine in a an attempt to prevent Ukraine moving forward to join the EU while denying that they are any way involved in the Ukraine

Renegade Mechanic

Gatling wrote: »

One are fighting terrorist, and the world knows

The others (Russians) trying to annex another part of Ukraine in a an attempt to prevent Ukraine moving forward to join the EU while denying that they are any way involved in the Ukraine

Not imo. They're there on the pretext of fighting ISIS, yet when the Russians eventually waded in on Assad's request, they dealt more damage to everyone, including Isis, than the Americans ever dealt to Isis.

As for Ukraine, I doubt there are Russian troops there, beyond advisers.
I have no doubt however, that the rebels there are in receipt of whatever Russian money and weaponry they can carry/drive/fly.

A bit like what the Americans did in Afghanistan, only in reverse and without the advent of Salafism that's lead to the Middle East we all know and love today..

Plus, Ukraine in the EU is a terrible idea. Old Red is actually doing us a favour. Minimum wage there is equivalent of 27 cents an hour. Where do you reckon what's left of our manufacturing companies will relocate to, while still benefiting from that single market protectionism?
You reckon Brussels wants the Ukraine under it's arse for Ukraine's benefit?!

Gatling

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

when the Russians eventually waded in on Assad's request, they dealt more damage to everyone, including Isis, than the Americans ever dealt to Isis.

So they waded in to help Assad wipe out more of his own population.
And it's been proven Russians have not been hitting Isis actually it's shown the majority of their strikes have been against opposition fighters and not Isis (odd that ) but we get the claims of did more damage to Isis than anyone else.
Nonsense .

Afghanistan Russia did the same tried to wipe out the population and were doing a great job massacreing village after village until stinger missles Not only leveled the playing field but led to the retreat of soviets out of Afghanistan,

Funny first the Russians went into Ukraine illegally to prevent mass genocide heck they even claimed a several occasions they found mass grave sites and even prepared storoes to show poor innocent children been killed in non existent Ukrainian government attacks

Renegade Mechanic

^ You're actually identical to Jimmy Garlic, mate.
Just in opposite ways.

Gatling

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

^ You're actually identical to Jimmy Garlic, mate.
Just in opposite ways.

I deal with the facts the other makes it up for some odd reason,
Along with several other who for some odd reason have an affliction to salivate over oul Vladimir .

robindch

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

[...] there are no Russian troops in Ukraine [...]

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Of course there intelligence officers there.

Up to your usual standards there Jimmy!

robindch

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

^ You're actually identical to Jimmy Garlic, mate. Just in opposite ways.

Opposite in the sense that Gatling is generally accurate about what's going on and Mr Garlic is sticking to the Kremlin's misleading/false/deceitful media playbook as though he were stapled to it.

Renegade Mechanic

robindch wrote: »

Opposite in the sense that Gatling is generally accurate about what's going on and Mr Garlic is sticking to the Kremlin's misleading/false/deceitful media playbook as though he were stapled to it.

Yeah....

Gatling wrote: »

One are fighting terrorist, and the they have acknowledged that they are there along with French, German and other countries forces

The others (Russians) trying to annex another part of Ukraine in a an attempt to prevent Ukraine moving forward to join the EU while denying that they are any way involved in the Ukraine

I'm afraid I don't personally see that.
The Russians are protecting their interests the exact same way we're protecting ours. We just have more than Russia makes in total to spend, just on ways to dress it up differently.

You'll take note of the consequences of that interest protection breaching our own blinding, media propagated world views more and more...

I'm not saying it's our fault the world runs on something worth killing for.
I'm saying we could stand to be a little less arrogant in our "Evil dictator removal"- ness, whenever one of them decides to work in a fashion that doesn't align with the interests of our financiers, while blatantly allowing people to get away with whatever they want - as long as they work in a fasion that does.

Something Gatling appears to think we're not complicit in.