The Vladimir Putin appreciation thread.

Cheerful Spring

Chrongen wrote: »

This is priceless. You believe a faked video of Bin Laden but you call 3000 IPCC scientists liars.

This video is alleging showing Bin Laden watching himself like a loner. Why would he have someone record him watching TV 9/11 clips from behind?.. And it funny there no frontal shots of his face so people can not do facial recognition. No video taken of him with his kids and family, party pictures, birthdays nothing. When he turns slightly he looks like a different guy to Bin Laden.

na1

Chrongen wrote: »

cnocbui wrote: »

And of course you have known many a Senior British intelligence officer and are intimately familiar with their 'style'.

Funny, this expertise you have, given that in another thread you claimed Bin Laden had no involvement in 9/11 and yet I posted a video of him boasting about how he masterminded and organised it.



Your attempt to try and discredit the source - Steele - is pathetic.  John Sipher wrote a piece called The Smearing of Christopher Steele.  Sipher happens to be a former CIA officer:



Funny, where in that article does he doubt Steele's authenticity?  Where does he go on about style and grammar which in his expert opinion should raise doubts?  Nowhere.

Nothing you say is credible or worthy of anything but derision.

This is priceless. You believe a faked video of Bin Laden but you call 3000 IPCC scientists liars.

Show me on the FBI website where it mentions that bin Laden had ANYTHING to do with 9/11. Don't give me some crappy fake video. Do you speak arabic? Are the Arabic words in the video corresponding with Bin Laden's lips?

Bin Laden was involved in attack on 9/11? I don't believe so!
https://imgur.com/CRaBPOx

Cheerful Spring

na1 wrote: »

Bin Laden was involved in attack on 9/11? I don't believe so!
https://imgur.com/CRaBPOx

Americans always release a video with no audio or very low audio that raises suspicion.

The video below is the video Chrongen I think is talking about? It was released with subtitles and very low audio that you can't hear at all. This is hilarious because if Al Qaeda wanted people to know they carried out the attacks, the noise levels would have been corrected by them, so you could hear them clearly speaking. What the point of the video if you can't hear a word there speaking?

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

but the Kremlin does not go after people they pardon.

Says wholm exactly ,

You and one ,two others .


Not very convincing evidence is it

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

Says wholm exactly ,

You and one ,two others .


Not very convincing evidence is it

Pardon means you not a target anymore for arrest and assassination. And you have no evidence Putin the Kremlin ordered this attack. Suspicion is not same as having evidence of a crime (innocent till proven guilty)

Franz Von Peppercorn

it’s all very 1984. The citizens of Oceania are encouraged to hate the Evil Dictator of EastAsia even though he’s doesn’t threaten them, yet Oceania threatens him.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Pardon means you not a target anymore for arrest


and assassination.

Pardon means released from your sentence or excused which he was .

No mention of pardoned from state assassination though .

That's only your opinion fortunately

Chrongen

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Americans always release a video with no audio or very low audio that raises suspicion.

The video below is the video Chrongen I think is talking about? It was released with subtitles and very low audio that you can't hear at all. This is hilarious because if Al Qaeda wanted people to know they carried out the attacks, the noise levels would have been corrected by them, so you could hear them clearly speaking. What the point of the video if you can't hear a word there speaking?

It's laughable.

MI6 and Scotland Yard could verify IRA involvement in bombings pre and post via a very simple system of aliases and codewords put in place by an outfit that for the most part relied on home made devices to do their destruction. Al Qaeda, au contraire, this global network of evil and well funded geniuses who can hijack planes, outsmart the most sophisticated defence apparatus in the world and even hit their headquarters all in the same day can't put together an admission video that the FBI can verify as proof of their involvement.

bilston

21 people treated in hospital in total.

If Putin (or any state actor) is behind this then it is incredibly serious. The problem is there is very little the UK can do about it.

Cheerful Spring

Chrongen wrote: »

It's laughable.

outsmart the most sophisticated defence apparatus in the world

On Tuesday the attacks happened the US military was engaged in war and terror drills. One of the drills was simulating terrorist attacks inside America, using planes! This could be the smoking gun the conspirators had a fail-safe in place in case something went wrong in the planning. It partly the reason for the confusion there was not enough aircraft to be sent up to engage the hijacked planes.The military did not know if it was a real-world event when the FAA contacted them about the hijacked planes. If you listen to 9/11 military tapes you hear the military guy on the battle station at Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) say is this real world or exercise? It also is known the Pentagon has anti-aircraft batteries that will shoot down objects when approaching, but they never engaged the aeroplane, even though two planes had already crashed into the twin towers an hour before the attack on the Pentagon. The area around the Pentagon is closed airspace a plane approaching would have been seen and people in authority knew this plane was on a suicide mission.

Gatling

Can the conspiracy theorists take the discussion to the correct conspiracy theory forum =====}

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

Can the conspiracy theorists take the discussion to the correct conspiracy theory forum =====}

It, not a conspiracy theory it fact. The drills were only called off when last plane crashed. The hijackers picked the right day to attack America when the military was unable to react. Those hijackers from the caves are smart cookies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government_operations_and_exercises_on_September_11,_2001

Chrongen

Gatling wrote: »

Can the conspiracy theorists take the discussion to the correct conspiracy theory forum =====}

Does that include the FBI who think the tapes are bullsh!t?

Chrongen

bilston wrote: »

21 people treated in hospital in total.

If Putin (or any state actor) is behind this then it is incredibly serious. The problem is there is very little the UK can do about it.

Whoever did this either:

1. Didn't care about being discreet and bumping this guy off leaving very little trace

or,

2. Did it deliberately messy

or,

3. Is incompetent.



If it was a Putin sanctioned hit as the usual screamers want to think then why not get rid of the guy in the most subtle and untraceable way? #1 doesn't fit that profile.

If #2 it was orchestrated to blame on Russia and scare people and outrage them like the whole bullsh1t Anthrax farce back in the day.

If #3 then it was "who knows"?

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

It, a conspiracy theory fact. /quote]

Yes ,

A child wouldn't come out with ****e repeatedly

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

It, a conspiracy theory fact. /quote]

Yes ,

A child wouldn't come out with ****e repeatedly

The experts are all wrong about the bin Laden confession tape could be doctored One month + after 9/11 this tape appears with terrible audio.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/dec/15/september11.afghanistan

This may be the smoking gun silly people who made it.

"It was also pointed out that it was surprising that a man with the ability to organise the attacks on America would be naive enough to confess on tape. And some observers point out that Bin Laden appears to be wearing a ring on his right hand. In previous film of Bin Laden released by him, he has worn no jewellery apart from a watch.

Islam forbids men to wear gold. It hard to make out if it's silver or gold ring. Gold ring on the finger the tape is fake.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Gatling wrote: »

The experts are all wrong about the bin Laden

Seriously just stop ,

Maybe try start a new thread on bin Laden and tell the world your version

Skylinehead

Gatling wrote: »

Can the conspiracy theorists take the discussion to the correct conspiracy theory forum =====}

Mod: This. 9/11, really?

Elmer Blooker

Chrongen wrote: »

Whoever did this either:

1. Didn't care about being discreet and bumping this guy off leaving very little trace

or,

2. Did it deliberately messy

or,

3. Is incompetent.



If it was a Putin sanctioned hit as the usual screamers want to think then why not get rid of the guy in the most subtle and untraceable way? #1 doesn't fit that profile.

If #2 it was orchestrated to blame on Russia and scare people and outrage them like the whole bullsh1t Anthrax farce back in the day.

If #3 then it was "who knows"?

#2 Vlad is giving the head choppers a bit of hammering he isn't going to get off scot free!

Gatling

Sergei Skripal's wife and son graves are now being exhumed both died in apparent suspicious circumstances in an 12 month period

nacho libre

Well it's embarrassing for the UK. Mayibe this is revenge for the McMafia series.
But seriously if you are a Russian FSB member or such like, being tapped up by British Intelligence you maybe having second thoughts now. The message being we will get you at a time of our choosing, and others around you will suffer too. A professional hit won't spread the same fear into others as an assassination done this way will.
I don't believe Boris Berevzosky(?),Vladmir's former friend, killed himself either. Indeed there are at least three other cases, out of 14 suspicious deaths, where Russian involvement is likely. All that said, i doubt it is only the Russians And Israeli who kill people deemed enemies of the state on foreign shores.

Chrongen

Gatling wrote: »

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Seriously just stop ,

Maybe try start a new thread on bin Laden and tell the world your version

Indeed!

Just STOP.

I stated that the FBI have announced that they have NO evidence connecting Bin Laden to the September 11 event.

These are not my words they are the words of the FBI Investigator. So you can be all "Valley-girl" and say "whatever, talk to the hand, get a life, YAH" if that helps.

Call the FBI, they will say the same thing.
cnocbui's videos of Bin Laden claiming responsibility for 911 when the Feds called it sh1t is telling.

We can stay on this topic or we can go onto another farce that you believe. Just say the word.

Skylinehead

Chrongen wrote: »

It was brought up as a deflection by cnocbui.

I mentioned something in another thread and it was dragged into this one.

If 9/11 is not to be brought up than it ought not by those who want to muddy the waters.

I don't really care who brought it up tbh

Cheerful Spring

Chrongen wrote: »

It was brought up as a deflection by cnocbui.

/QUOTE]

Right on and correct.

Chrongen

Deflects from Florida doesn't it.

This is such a game.

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

Sergei Skripal's wife and son graves are now being exhumed both died in apparent suspicious circumstances in an 12 month period

And why is this only news now? Surely a Russian spy son and wife died in suspicious circumstances would be talked about online somewhere before now?

Tea drinker

nacho libre wrote: »

Well it's embarrassing for the UK. Mayibe this is revenge for the McMafia series.
But seriously if you are a Russian FSB member or such like, being tapped up by British Intelligence you maybe having second thoughts now. The message being we will get you at a time of our choosing, and others around you will suffer too. A professional hit won't spread the same fear into others as an assassination done this way will.
I don't believe Boris Berevzosky(?),Vladmir's former friend, killed himself either. Indeed there are at least three other cases, out of 14 suspicious deaths, where Russian involvement is likely. All that said, i doubt it is only the Russians And Israeli who kill people deemed enemies of the state on foreign shores.

NATO has no problem hitting Weddings, funerals (i.e. bombing a funeral and also the funeral for the victim of bombing the first funeral)
UK has operated death squads against Irish people... they should crow loudly now?

fryup

Gatling wrote: »

Sergei Skripal's wife and son graves are now being exhumed both died in apparent suspicious circumstances in an 12 month period

not only do they kill the spy but they wipe out his whole family, extreme measures

Gatling

Tea drinker wrote: »

NATO has no problem hitting Weddings, funerals (i.e. bombing a funeral and also the funeral for the victim of bombing the first funeral)

Not the only country to do so ,

JenovaProject

Tea drinker wrote: »

NATO has no problem hitting Weddings, funerals (i.e. bombing a funeral and also the funeral for the victim of bombing the first funeral)

Gatling wrote: »

Not the only country to do so ,

Is this NATO a new country?
You spoofing us again Gat?