Cork City Marathon 01/06/2015

Cona

gudpony wrote: »

Hi all, I have two questions really
I completed the Limerick marathon yesterday and I was wondering for those who have done both how does cork compare to Limerick in terms of hills ?.. Limerick was far hiller than I expected. I crashed badly in the later miles , then again I went out far too fast.
The second question . What kind of training/plan should I do in the next 4 weeks to be ready? I normally stick to long training plans of 16 weeks or more so running a marathon in such a short space of time is new to me. I run under 3.30 for a marathon

All you can hope to do is be recovered and fresh ...there's little training plan can do for you in 4 weeks to give u a boost in fitness but you may have gained some from the first marathon attempt...
I would take off at least 3 days after the marathon to give your legs time to recover. Remember it's not just the leg muscles that need to recover, bones and tendons will also be tender..
Start back with very easy running...

Week 2 build up mileage again very easy running.

Week 3 I would add in some light strides to help with recovery along with a 10-13 mile easy run..

Final week some easy running again with strides to keep everything firing and fresh...

4 weeks would be the minimum recommended rest time before running another marathon so you don't want to hamper your recovery by trying to train to hard...

Finally don't expect to go faster in the second attempt...marathon can take a lot out of the body, and you need ample time to recover and build up again through another training cycle.

Murph_D

P&D has a 4 week back to back marathon training schedule (although they generally don't recommend this as a practice!) Might be worth taking a look.

viperlogic

gudpony wrote: »

Hi all, I have two questions really
I completed the Limerick marathon yesterday and I was wondering for those who have done both how does cork compare to Limerick in terms of hills ?.. Limerick was far hiller than I expected. I crashed badly in the later miles , then again I went out far too fast.
The second question . What kind of training/plan should I do in the next 4 weeks to be ready? I normally stick to long training plans of 16 weeks or more so running a marathon in such a short space of time is new to me. I run under 3.30 for a marathon

I have done both and found Cork easier. Also there is much better support out on the Cork one and also no boring out and back sections. Cork wins all round

polaris68

gudpony wrote: »

Hi all, I have two questions really
I completed the Limerick marathon yesterday and I was wondering for those who have done both how does cork compare to Limerick in terms of hills ?.. Limerick was far hiller than I expected. I crashed badly in the later miles , then again I went out far too fast.
The second question . What kind of training/plan should I do in the next 4 weeks to be ready? I normally stick to long training plans of 16 weeks or more so running a marathon in such a short space of time is new to me. I run under 3.30 for a marathon

Hal Higdon has some advice and a 4 week training plan here:

http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51153/Marathon-Multiple-Marathons-Training-Program

Giving some consideration to doing this myself. Note the price jumps from €75 to €85 at midnight on Thursday/Friday.

gudpony

Thanks For the Replies. The 4 week hal higdon looks doable thanks polaris68, I will probably take a few days off too on cona's advice. Feeling the stiffness in my legs today , dam that delayed reaction!

I would love to do cork,. I think if I stick to the 3.30 pacer I will get around comfortably.. I went out at a 3.20 pace in limerick which was idiotic , I had to walk a few times in the closing miles. :mad:

amcgee

gudpony wrote: »

Thanks For the Replies. The 4 week hal higdon looks doable thanks polaris68, I will probably take a few days off too on cona's advice. Feeling the stiffness in my legs today , dam that delayed reaction!

I would love to do cork,. I think if I stick to the 3.30 pacer I will get around comfortably.. I went out at a 3.20 pace in limerick which was idiotic , I had to walk a few times in the closing miles. :mad:

I have done both cork and Limerick, personally i found Limerick slightly easier, but mostly because Cork was run on a hot day. oboviously running two marathons that close apart all depends on your fitness and so on, good luck with it, i though about doing the same last year but didn't. the only recommendation probably would be run cork slower
2 marathons in such a short timeframe is a tough ask for most people

rom

amcgee wrote: »

I have done both cork and Limerick, personally i found Limerick slightly easier, but mostly because Cork was run on a hot day. oboviously running two marathons that close apart all depends on your fitness and so on, good luck with it, i though about doing the same last year but didn't. the only recommendation probably would be run cork slower
2 marathons in such a short timeframe is a tough ask for most people

Would have to agree with this. If you gave limerick your all then you will be tired for cork. You will only get the effects a month it 6 weeks after Cork. Just after doing London and I was going to pace the half at 1:45 but I need to recover. I week off, 1 week with 40mins at 9:20 pace every second day. Then back to easy pace running. Prob be a month before I am running MP again. Everyone is different but unless u have done loads if marathons doing them close together can be a bad idea.

overthebridge

There's a few of us coming down from Limerick for the half. On the website they recommend avoiding coming into City Centre for parking.
Where is the best place to park for easy access into and out of the city ? TIA.

viperlogic

overthebridge wrote: »

There's a few of us coming down from Limerick for the half. On the website they recommend avoiding coming into City Centre for parking.
Where is the best place to park for easy access into and out of the city ? TIA.

Plenty parking in Blackpool which is only 2K from start/finish line

Cona

I would suggest parking in the Q-Park on Carrolls Quay which is 2 mins from the finish line on Patrick street (try google). Obviously you would have to pay for it, but you should be able to access it if your there before the marathon starting and its on the road back to Limerick (Leitrim St) so would make for an easy getaway. There is also on street parking at the back of it, but this wouldnt be guaranteed...

run_Forrest_run

overthebridge wrote: »

There's a few of us coming down from Limerick for the half. On the website they recommend avoiding coming into City Centre for parking.
Where is the best place to park for easy access into and out of the city ? TIA.

wow, some great advice from the organisers there. They tell you avoid parking in the city while offering no alternatives, bunch of geniuses.

overthebridge

Cheers lads....

viperlogic wrote: »

Plenty parking in Blackpool which is only 2K from start/finish line

I never thought of parking here. I'll bounce that one off the lads.

Cona wrote: »

I would suggest parking in the Q-Park on Carrolls Quay which is 2 mins from the finish line on Patrick street (try google). Obviously you would have to pay for it, but you should be able to access it if your there before the marathon starting and its on the road back to Limerick (Leitrim St) so would make for an easy getaway. There is also on street parking at the back of it, but this wouldnt be guaranteed...

Is this Car Park not on the route itself ? I'd hate to be stuck waiting to get out of here

run_Forrest_run wrote: »

wow, some great advice from the organisers there. They tell you avoid parking in the city while offering no alternatives, bunch of geniuses.

In fairness it's a better website than most .. namely the GLR..!!

Cona

Is this Car Park not on the route itself ? I'd hate to be stuck waiting to get out of here

The entrance to it is at the 3-4 mile mark so everyone should be well passed by the time you are finished. The exit for the car park is out the back side as well (not on the marathon route) so the roads would be open...

gudpony

Thanks for the advice everyone. I am gonna leave it for this year and take a few weeks off instead .. I will look to do another marathon later on in the year where i will be refreshed and ready to roll. Cork looks great though , I hope to do it some year . Good luck to everyone involved

run_Forrest_run

gudpony wrote: »

Thanks for the advice everyone. I am gonna leave it for this year and take a few weeks off instead .. I will look to do another marathon later on in the year where i will be refreshed and ready to roll. Cork looks great though , I hope to do it some year . Good luck to everyone involved

wise decision.

skittles8710

Not very clear if it will run at the normal times given its a Bank Holiday Monday. Hopefully it will be going regularly on the day Lapps Quay 5min walk from finish line

http://www.corkcitymarathon.ie/aboutcork/travel/parkride/

cmickdaly

You could park on coburg st, wellington rd and by patricks church. don't bother throwing up a disk, they won't be checked

Airtel31

cmickdaly wrote: »

You could park on coburg st, wellington rd and by patricks church. don't bother throwing up a disk, they won't be checked

Is it not free on bank holidays anyway

EauRouge79

Airtel31 wrote: »

Is it not free on bank holidays anyway

Yep, its free. Same as a Sunday.

rom

Reminder that entries close at midnight tomorrow.
http://www.corkcitymarathon.ie/enter/

polaris68

Got an email from them, deadline for marathon and relay extended to May 15th.

Airtel31

polaris68 wrote: »

Got an email from them, deadline for marathon and relay extended to May 15th.

So did I, they've done the same last two years

mush500

Got email this week and last long 20M run done today and in the pissing rain to boot- time to taper and starting to look forward to this!

isitraining

Any advice on a place to eat the night before the marathon? Haven't been to Cork since I was a student and obviously my nutrition priorities are very different now. Anywhere in the city centre would be great. I'm sure there will be plenty of restaurants catering to the marathon runners!

Airtel31

isitraining wrote: »

Any advice on a place to eat the night before the marathon? Haven't been to Cork since I was a student and obviously my nutrition priorities are very different now. Anywhere in the city centre would be great. I'm sure there will be plenty of restaurants catering to the marathon runners!

Try luigi Malones across from the opera house do a nice selection of pasta dishes and reasonable as well

valoren

isitraining wrote: »

Any advice on a place to eat the night before the marathon? Haven't been to Cork since I was a student and obviously my nutrition priorities are very different now. Anywhere in the city centre would be great. I'm sure there will be plenty of restaurants catering to the marathon runners!

A rice dish in Wagamama with an extra side of rice.

run_Forrest_run

most places will have some decent pasta or rice dishes, just make sure not to try anything you've never had before, the night before a marathon is not the time for experimentation

AlwaysInjured

isitraining wrote: »

Any advice on a place to eat the night before the marathon? Haven't been to Cork since I was a student and obviously my nutrition priorities are very different now. Anywhere in the city centre would be great. I'm sure there will be plenty of restaurants catering to the marathon runners!

I regularly eat in Ramen the day before my long run. Lots of healthy noodles and rice dishes to choose from, cooked to order. It is on Angelsea St, and at Dennehys Cross. Chilli Padi on Fr Matthew St does similiar Asian street food, all healthy made to order.

Murph_D

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|Murph_D|3:36:17|3:27:59|
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echancrure

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|Murph_D|3:36:17|3:27:59|
|Echancrure|3:09:30||
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will fill in the target in a while as I am not quite sure yet !

viperlogic

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|Murph_D|3:36:17|3:27:59|
|Echancrure|3:09:30||
|viperlogic|1:23:33|1:22:59|
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unirunner2

viperlogic wrote: »

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|Murph_D|3:36:17|3:27:59|
|Echancrure|3:09:30||
|viperlogic|1:23:33|1:22:59|
|unirunner2|1:31:01|1:29:59|

Unirunner2

jamesbere

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|Murph_D|3:36:17|3:27:59|
|Echancrure|3:09:30||
|viperlogic|1:23:33|1:22:59|
|unirunner2|1:31:01|1:29:59|
|jamesbere|first timer|3:45:00|
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annapr

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|Murph_D|3:36:17|3:27:59|
|Echancrure|3:09:30||
|viperlogic|1:23:33|1:22:59|
|unirunner2|1:31:01|1:29:59|
|jamesbere|first timer|3:45:00|
|annapr|2:01:37|1:59:59|
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Phew, managed to do this without breaking the table... doing the half (obviously)

raddo

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|Murph_D|3:36:17|3:27:59|
|Echancrure|3:09:30||
|viperlogic|1:23:33|1:22:59|
|unirunner2|1:31:01|1:29:59|
|jamesbere|first timer|3:45:00|
|annapr|2:01:37|1:59:59|
|raddo|1:52:14|1:49:59|
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Hopeful rather than confident this year!!

run_Forrest_run

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|Murph_D|3:36:17|3:27:59|
|Echancrure|3:09:30||
|viperlogic|1:23:33|1:22:59|
|unirunner2|1:31:01|1:29:59|
|jamesbere|first timer|3:45:00|
|annapr|2:01:37|1:59:59|
|raddo|1:52:14|1:49:59|
|run_Forrest_run | 3:03:31 | 2:59:59
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Hopeful too, but sure ya have to give it a go from the gun.

Murph_D

Might be a good idea to have two tables!

Marathon

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|Murph_D|3:36:17|3:27:59|
|Echancrure|3:09:30||
|jamesbere|first timer|3:45:00|
|run_Forrest_run | 3:03:31 | 2:59:59
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Half Marathon

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|viperlogic|1:23:33|1:22:59|
|unirunner2|1:31:01|1:29:59|
|annapr|2:01:37|1:59:59|
|raddo|1:52:14|1:49:59|
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Ecoenergy

Marathon

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|Murph_D|3:36:17|3:27:59|
|Echancrure|3:09:30||
|jamesbere|first timer|3:45:00|
|Ecoenergy|3:29:26|3:14:59|
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Half Marathon

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|viperlogic|1:23:33|1:22:59|
|unirunner2|1:31:01|1:29:59|
|annapr|2:01:37|1:59:59|
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Still not entirely convinced I can achieve this. I ran 66.26 for Ballycotton and thats the last longish race I've done. 25.09 for the Cheetah run last night which was very enjoyable but its hard to gauge marathon fitness from such a short race. If conditions on the day aren't great I might fall back to my B target of sub 3.20 so I'll probably change my target a dozen more times before the race.

run_Forrest_run

Ecoenergy wrote: »

.. If conditions on the day aren't great I might fall back to my B target of sub 3.20 so I'll probably change my target a dozen more times before the race.

oh yes, well if conditions are not ideal then I think we will all be adjusting goals, it's only fair to assume that.

Ecoenergy

I think I may have knocked Forrest off the previous table by mistake. Hope this one's ok.

Marathon

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|Murph_D|3:36:17|3:27:59|
|Echancrure|3:09:30||
|jamesbere|first timer|3:45:00|
|run_Forrest_run | 3:03:31 | 2:59:59|
|Ecoenergy|3:29:26|3:14:59|
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Half Marathon

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|viperlogic|1:23:33|1:22:59|
|unirunner2|1:31:01|1:29:59|
|annapr|2:01:37|1:59:59|
|raddo|1:52:14|1:49:59|
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annapr

run_Forrest_run wrote: »

oh yes, well if conditions are not ideal then I think we will all be adjusting goals, it's only fair to assume that.

which for me, means if it's hot. or possibly blowing a gale. or both.

paulers06

Marathon

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|Murph_D|3:36:17|3:27:59|
|Echancrure|3:09:30||
|jamesbere|first timer|3:45:00|
|run_Forrest_run | 3:03:31 | 2:59:59|
|Ecoenergy|3:29:26|3:14:59|
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Half Marathon

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|viperlogic|1:23:33|1:22:59|
|unirunner2|1:31:01|1:29:59|
|annapr|2:01:37|1:59:59|
|raddo|1:52:14|1:49:59|
|paulers06|1:49:26|1:47:59|
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averagejoe123

Marathon

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|Murph_D|3:36:17|3:27:59|
|Echancrure|3:09:30||
|jamesbere|first timer|3:45:00|
|run_Forrest_run | 3:03:31 | 2:59:59|
|Ecoenergy|3:29:26|3:14:59|
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Half Marathon

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|viperlogic|1:23:33|1:22:59|
|unirunner2|1:31:01|1:29:59|
|annapr|2:01:37|1:59:59|
|raddo|1:52:14|1:49:59|
|averagejoe123|1:37:20|1:29:59|
|paulers06|1:49:26|1:47:59|
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sixpack's little hat

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|Murph_D|3:36:17|3:27:59|
|Echancrure|3:09:30||
|jamesbere|first timer|3:45:00|
|run_Forrest_run | 3:03:31 | 2:59:59|
|Ecoenergy|3:29:26|3:14:59|
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Half Marathon

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|viperlogic|1:23:33|1:22:59|
|unirunner2|1:31:01|1:29:59|
|annapr|2:01:37|1:59:59|
|raddo|1:52:14|1:49:59|
|averagejoe123|1:37:20|1:29:59|
|paulers06|1:49:26|1:47:59|
|sixpack's little hat|1:22:26|1:19:59|


It would only be a 2 1/2 minute PB, how hard can that be after another year's worth of training...

hot buttered scones

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|Murph_D|3:36:17|3:27:59|
|Echancrure|3:09:30||
|jamesbere|first timer|3:45:00|
|run_Forrest_run | 3:03:31 | 2:59:59|
|Ecoenergy|3:29:26|3:14:59|
|hot buttered scones| first timer|3:59:59|
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Half Marathon

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|viperlogic|1:23:33|1:22:59|
|unirunner2|1:31:01|1:29:59|
|annapr|2:01:37|1:59:59|
|raddo|1:52:14|1:49:59|
|averagejoe123|1:37:20|1:29:59|
|paulers06|1:49:26|1:47:59|
|sixpack's little hat|1:22:26|1:19:59|


This all depends on whether or not the sharp pain I felt just behind the ball of my left foot near my big toe this evening develops into something serious or not. Which in my limited experience it usually does.

Murph_D

Hopefully just some early taper madness, HBS.

dintbo

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|Murph_D|3:36:17|3:27:59|
|Echancrure|3:09:30||
|jamesbere|first timer|3:45:00|
|run_Forrest_run | 3:03:31 | 2:59:59|
|Ecoenergy|3:29:26|3:14:59|
|hot buttered scones| first timer|3:59:59|
|dintbo|3:53:47|3:29:59|
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Half Marathon

Bib No.|Username|PB|Goal|Result
|viperlogic|1:23:33|1:22:59|
|unirunner2|1:31:01|1:29:59|
|annapr|2:01:37|1:59:59|
|raddo|1:52:14|1:49:59|
|averagejoe123|1:37:20|1:29:59|
|paulers06|1:49:26|1:47:59|
|sixpack's little hat|1:22:26|1:19:59|


I wanted to wait till I had my last proper PMP session in the bag before I wrote the time down I'll certainly be revising that time if it's very warm. Way too used to cold and windy !

echancrure

Hi all,
does anybody know where I could find a running belt for my gel in Cork? Will there be stalls with gears for sale at registration time like in Dublin?

I can't source one around me. I know I am leaving it a bit late, but just decided not carry my own water IF it is not sunny nor warm.

cmickdaly

echancrure wrote: »

Hi all,
does anybody know where I could find a running belt for my gel in Cork? Will there be stalls with gears for sale at registration time like in Dublin?

I can't source one around me. I know I am leaving it a bit late, but just decided not carry my own water IF it is not sunny nor warm.

the edge sports or john buckleys. you could also borrow one of a running friend, if i had one i would give you a running belt ....... (but i don't). i usually just shove them in my shorts pockets. if the weather stays like it is at the mo you will be fine, overcast and a bit blustery

lostinashford

Any tips on easy places to watch. Parents (elderly) live in Bishopstown and will have my young kids with them, obviously the junction of Melbourn Road & Model Farm Road, where else would be easy for them to drive to and get back to this point to support me? Would Mahon be an option or will it be mad around there? Thanks