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Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

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    #392
    Penalty
    Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭Penalty


    Strumms wrote: »
    I hope that with the EI takeover at least they can sort out whatever is causing the ongoing catering issues that are still a problem. Flew to NCE on the 1850 flight last night and zero catering for what I'm guessing was about a flight with 80% load factor. The crew were frustrated and encouraged us to write into the company which I will be doing.

    In fairness to the crew they were very apologetic and brilliant under the circumstances... Making up platters out of whatever was left... Crisps.. Sweets etc and dishing them out throughout the flight as well as frequent water runs....

    If that sort of craic continues they need not worry about fleet upgrades as they won't have the money to pay for them as people will flocking to the competition.

    Flew this route last year and has the exact same experience.

    I flew back in the afternoon and there was nothing on the flight to eat


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    #393
    Jack1985
    Registered Users Posts: 2,500 ✭✭✭Jack1985


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    These catering issues seem to be drawn out a long time, how hard it to organise a few crisps sandwiches on a plane?

    Not very. But the company will not allow it, a direct result of 60 staff being offloaded from Catering.

    The new system is All Day Bars, and a such items run out which is unacceptable IMO. Aer Lingus aren't cheap, and the quality food onboard should at least be available.

    The only way this will change will be if customers continue to write in with complaints.


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    #394
    Mc Love
    Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    The catering is like that on so many flights! It puts CC in an awful position, which is terrible because they cant do much about it.


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    #395
    BZ
    Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭BZ


    Saw the Omni 767 at work this morning and the two shade shamrock on the engine cowlings have been removed.


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    #396
    veetwin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,003 ✭✭✭veetwin


    I was talking to a member of ei cabin crew who did a Canaries flight over the weekend and no food on board either. She said the abuse the crew got was terrible. Serious issue on a 4+ hour flight though especially if you have hungry children.


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    #397
    Caovyn Lineah
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    BZ wrote: »
    Saw the Omni 767 at work this morning and the two shade shamrock on the engine cowlings have been removed.

    Thank god, it looks awful in person. The decals look really cheap.


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    #398
    River Song
    Registered Users Posts: 355 ✭✭River Song


    Caovyn Lineah wrote: »
    Thank god, it looks awful in person. The decals look really cheap.

    I might see it in Boston this day next week, will try get a photo of the slightly less atrocious scheme.


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    #399
    Caovyn Lineah
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    River Song wrote: »
    I might see it in Boston this day next week, will try get a photo of the slightly less atrocious scheme.

    I'll take a few pics tomorrow for everyone to see :)


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    #400
    knockon
    Registered Users Posts: 518 ✭✭✭knockon


    Photo of pre Shamrock removal from Clare Herald.

    SNN%20WAW%20Plane%2033.jpg

    Aer-Lingus-Omni-Shannon-1.jpg


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    #401
    Caovyn Lineah
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    http://imgur.com/RVjxTnJ

    I won't embed the picture as my phone takes HUGE pictures. Best I could do today, I'll take better over the weekend.


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    #402
    JCX BXC
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    So no Shamrock on the engines? No harm, they did look awful. To remove the Shamrock would the engines of had to be repainted? Or was it a sticker? Anyway it's 2 weeks into a 12 week lease.

    Wonder will that 767 return next year?


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    #403
    L1011
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    They were stickers


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    #404
    Caovyn Lineah
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    So no Shamrock on the engines? No harm, they did look awful. To remove the Shamrock would the engines of had to be repainted? Or was it a sticker? Anyway it's 2 weeks into a 12 week lease.

    Wonder will that 767 return next year?

    They were just really awful decals, anytime I looked at them they looked like a child was let loose with safety scissors.


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    #405
    JCX BXC
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    Anyone been on the 767 yet? Particularly the new business class?


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    #406
    Lockheed
    Registered Users Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Lockheed


    How many hours on average is the short-haul, long-haul, and regional fleet used?


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    #407
    Tenger
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,842 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Lockheed wrote: »
    How many hours on average is the short-haul, long-haul, and regional fleet used?

    I'm not 100% what you mean, as in daily usage?
    Hard to judge and it would differ greatly.

    I remember back when EI had an aircraft based in IAD, it was the highest utilisation of any widebody. 19-20 hours flying per 24 hour period.

    Any of the EI T/A aircraft would be doing minimum of 13 hours per day (ie DUB-BOS-DUB)

    Shorthaul it a lot more varied as an aircraft could do 8 sectors to UK/LHR or 4 sectors to/from Europe, or just 2 sectors to the Canaries/Turkey.


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    #408
    Lockheed
    Registered Users Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Lockheed


    Tenger wrote: »
    I'm not 100% what you mean, as in daily usage?
    Hard to jude and itwould differ greatly.

    I remember back when EI had an aircraft based in IAD, it was the highest utilisation of any widebody. 19-20 hours flying per 24 hour period.

    Any of the EI T/A aircraft would be doing minimum of 13 hours per day (ie DUB-BOS-DUB)

    Shorthaul it a lot more varied as an aircraft could do 8 sectors to UK/LHR or 4 sectors to/from Europe, or just 2 sectors to the Canaries/Turkey.
    sorry, accidentally replied on my dad's account lol
    I just meant how many hours out of 24 the fleet is used on average


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    #409
    JCX BXC
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    http://www.herald.ie/news/aer-lingus-takes-delivery-of-new-airbus-31362772.html

    How annoyingly inaccurate and misleading.


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    #410
    Locker10a
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    Tenger wrote: »
    I'm not 100% what you mean, as in daily usage?
    Hard to judge and it would differ greatly.

    I remember back when EI had an aircraft based in IAD, it was the highest utilisation of any widebody. 19-20 hours flying per 24 hour period.

    Any of the EI T/A aircraft would be doing minimum of 13 hours per day (ie DUB-BOS-DUB)

    Shorthaul it a lot more varied as an aircraft could do 8 sectors to UK/LHR or 4 sectors to/from Europe, or just 2 sectors to the Canaries/Turkey.

    Surly the Canaries and Turkish aircraft could be utilised before or after these rotations? Same for 4 sector days! Like DUB-CDG-DUB-ACE-DUB ? Wouldn't that surly be better utilisation! I know there is always a stanby aircraft too


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    #411
    A319er
    Registered Users Posts: 213 ✭✭A319er


    Really no there isn't always one, wish there was but not the last three summers
    Sure at times I.e. First wave there is one but even that's rare ,
    May next year!


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    #412
    fr336
    Registered Users Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    I've seen them hire in aircraft from Titan at Stansted before


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    #413
    Jamie2k9
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    Locker10a wrote: »
    Surly the Canaries and Turkish aircraft could be utilised before or after these rotations? Same for 4 sector days! Like DUB-CDG-DUB-ACE-DUB ? Wouldn't that surly be better utilisation! I know there is always a stanby aircraft too

    They are well used.

    Today DUB-FCO-DUB-ACE-DUB


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    #414
    Tenger
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    Locker10a wrote: »
    Surly the Canaries and Turkish aircraft could be utilised before or after these rotations? Same for 4 sector days! Like DUB-CDG-DUB-ACE-DUB ? Wouldn't that surly be better utilisation! I know there is always a standby aircraft too
    The aircraft are never just lying around. You could find that the aircraft that is 'standby' in the morning may be planned for 4 sectors in the afternoon/evening. Often the 'standby' aircraft is actually getting light maintenance performed, ie. light enough that it can be make ready in under an hour if required.

    I guess you would need to trawl thru the EI FY results to find an average hours metric.


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    #415
    Bussywussy
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    A319er wrote: »
    Really no there isn't always one, wish there was but not the last three summers
    Sure at times I.e. First wave there is one but even that's rare ,
    May next year!

    this year and last year none, FCC the year before but that was too unreliable.next year i dunno,EZW and EZV will come back in shamrock colours before end of year and CPE will be retired.


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    #416
    Locker10a
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    Bussywussy wrote: »
    this year and last year none, FCC the year before but that was too unreliable.next year i dunno,EZW and EZV will come back in shamrock colours before end of year and CPE will be retired.

    I thought they wanted to expand the a321 fleet ? Are they now settled on the 2 extra 320s


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    #417
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,706 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Bussywussy wrote: »
    this year and last year none, FCC the year before but that was too unreliable.next year i dunno,EZW and EZV will come back in shamrock colours before end of year and CPE will be retired.

    Don't see them coming to EI, they want larger especially if it's a seasonal lease.

    Will they try sell CPE again or scrap?


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    #418
    zone 1
    Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭zone 1


    have AL any planes for upgrading with new 320s or 321s.. or we just wait for for the 350s


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    #419
    Bussywussy
    Registered Users Posts: 920 ✭✭✭Bussywussy


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Don't see them coming to EI, they want larger especially if it's a seasonal lease.

    Will they try sell CPE again or scrap?

    Already saw it they are coming back and will be repainted


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    #420
    Razor44
    Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Razor44


    I'm gonna guess and say there'll be 4 a321s procured soon enough, if EI stick to their fleet plan published in last years report.

    If they get rid of CPE that is.


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    #421
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,706 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Razor44 wrote: »
    I'm gonna guess and say there'll be 4 a321s procured soon enough, if EI stick to their fleet plan published in last years report.

    If they get rid of CPE that is.

    They have stated A321's for some time so I think the same, no issues filling them in summer!


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