Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

goingnowhere

Also EIN9020 1420 today
Times UTC

4 planned for Tuesday

FlyLo

Anyone noticed the pictures going around on social media and in today's Independent (photo from @snoopdogmoll) from the cabin onboard the Aer Lingus flight with cargo. It doesn't appear to be Aer Lingus whatsoever. The seats are blue not green and there are curtains at the door 3 area in the centre of economy area. The EI A330 does not have curtains in this location.

Tenger

Already mentioned thread.
2 images being used, one has blue seats the other had grey.
Not really a big issue as the EI cabin loading will look 95% similar. No harm to it.
Only really noticeable to a geeks.


Also EI-9018 returned shortly after takeoff today. Birdstrike as EIDW feed mentioned runway inspection after it landed.
Will be interesting to see if they can get it out later or will they have to cancel.
2 more departures planned today anyway.

MJohnston

Tenger wrote: »

Already mentioned thread.
2 images being used, one has blue seats the other had grey.
Not really a big issue as the EI cabin loading will look 95% similar. No harm to it.
Only really noticeable to a geeks.


Also EI-9018 returned shortly after takeoff today. Birdstrike as EIDW feed mentioned runway inspection after it landed.
Will be interesting to see if they can get it out later or will they have to cancel.
2 more departures planned today anyway.

No harm to it maybe, but it points to a larger inattentiveness to factual reporting by the Indo

fishy_fishy

Tenger wrote: »

Also EI-9018 returned shortly after takeoff today. Birdstrike as EIDW feed mentioned runway inspection after it landed.

Would hazard a negative on that. Hours are up against max as is. Maybe they can get another crew on by this evening though.

Cookiemunster

MJohnston wrote: »

No harm to it maybe, but it points to a larger inattentiveness to factual reporting by the Indo

Nearly every article I saw on Saturday about the flight leaving (on multiple different sites) used a stock photo of an A320. The photo editors really don't care because they know that the vast majority won't know the difference.

trellheim

The photo editors really don't care because they know that the vast majority won't know the difference

And may be cheaper to print a stock image in the daily

fitzparker

Maybe this has been answered before but I cannot find it.

Has Aer lingus changed their direct flight time table to Miami?

Last year I flew direct on a Friday (to cruise on a saturday) now it seems direct flights are a Saturday.

Bit of a pain as most cruises sail Saturday so will miss them.

Anyone have any idea when this changed (im looking at dates in 2021)?

Sexual Chocolate

EI-LRA operating 137 to Boston today. Think this is the first flight in nearly a week by an LR across the Atlantic?

Cookiemunster

fitzparker wrote: »

Maybe this has been answered before but I cannot find it.

Has Aer lingus changed their direct flight time table to Miami?

Last year I flew direct on a Friday (to cruise on a saturday) now it seems direct flights are a Saturday.

Bit of a pain as most cruises sail Saturday so will miss them.

Anyone have any idea when this changed (im looking at dates in 2021)?

There are no dates for 2021. There won't be until late 2020 when the 2021 schedule is revealed.

billie1b

Tenger wrote: »

Also EI-9018 returned shortly after takeoff today. Birdstrike as EIDW feed mentioned runway inspection after it landed.
Will be interesting to see if they can get it out later or will they have to cancel.
2 more departures planned today anyway.

Fair bit of fan blade damage on No1

Inquitus

billie1b wrote: »

Fair bit of fan blade damage on No1

Any pics?

billie1b

Inquitus wrote: »

Any pics?

I do but for some reason won’t let me upload it

Inquitus

billie1b wrote: »

I do but for some reason won’t let me upload it

imgur.com is free

fitzparker

Cookiemunster wrote: »

There are no dates for 2021. There won't be until late 2020 when the 2021 schedule is revealed.

I actually found a timetable for Aer Lingus, it looks like Friday is replaced with Saturday from May

https://www.aerlingus.com/html/flights-time-table.html#/sourceAirportCode_0=DUB&destinationAirportCode_0=MIA&departureDate_0=2020-10-16&sourceAirportCode_1=MIA&destinationAirportCode_1=DUB&departureDate_1=2020-10-21&fareType=RETURN&fareCategory=ECONOMY&numAdults=1&numYoungAdults=0&numChildren=0&numInfants=0&promoCode=

Again a bit crappy for people who cruise (alot of cruises leave on Saturdays from Miami

billie1b

Think I got it, it’s not my image, was just sent to me by a friend from work, so I don’t know who’s it is to credit.

Inquitus

billie1b wrote: »

Think I got it, it’s not my image, was just sent to me by a friend from work, so I don’t know who’s it is to credit.

Thanks for that, fair bit of damage alright.

Cookiemunster

fitzparker wrote: »

I actually found a timetable for Aer Lingus, it looks like Friday is replaced with Saturday from May

https://www.aerlingus.com/html/flights-time-table.html#/sourceAirportCode_0=DUB&destinationAirportCode_0=MIA&departureDate_0=2020-10-16&sourceAirportCode_1=MIA&destinationAirportCode_1=DUB&departureDate_1=2020-10-21&fareType=RETURN&fareCategory=ECONOMY&numAdults=1&numYoungAdults=0&numChildren=0&numInfants=0&promoCode=

Again a bit crappy for people who cruise (alot of cruises leave on Saturdays from Miami

That goes to mid Dec 2020. Again, there are no timetables yet for 2021. There's no guarantee that EI will still be flying to MIA in 2021, never mind what days they'll be flying.

Cloudio9

Inquitus wrote: »

Thanks for that, fair bit of damage alright.

Must've been a big enough bird to bend a few blades

Tenger

Cloudio9 wrote: »

Must've been a big enough bird to bend a few blades

The Journal article states "a flock of birds". (pinch of alt needed as always)

But certainly looks bad, can they be repaired after removal?

goingnowhere

Swap the engine out, could be back flying tomorrow with a bit of luck

ATC reported flames out the tail so that suggests something went down the core

Cloudio9

EI-GAJ left around 5 o clock. Is that the replacement?

Inquitus

Cloudio9 wrote: »

EI-GAJ left around 5 o clock. Is that the replacement?

Yes, EIN9018 replacement.

California Dreamer

Do they generally have a spare engine or 2 hanging around?

sherology

Inquitus wrote: »

Yes, EIN9018 replacement.

Sweet

billy few mates

California Dreamer wrote: »

Do they generally have a spare engine or 2 hanging around?

Plenty of spare engines and aircraft knocking around at the moment.
If the bird(s) only went down the fan stream you can get away with just replacing the badly damaged blades and blending out the damage (depending on the extent and location) of the minor damage.
They'll have to do a boresocope to see if anything went down the core and damaged anything internally.
I wonder if the recent drop in aircraft operations has led to an upsurge in bird activity..?

joeysoap

billy few mates wrote: »

...........
I wonder if the recent drop in aircraft operations has led to an upsurge in bird activity..?

That thought crossed my mind too.

I’m no 100% sure AL should be flying to JFK at the moment, seems to be a hotbed, but then again I wouldn’t like to be stranded there either. I hope the cabin crew have some protection.

cson

fitzparker wrote: »

Again a bit crappy for people who cruise (alot of cruises leave on Saturdays from Miami

I suspect cruise ops will be severely curtailed in 2021 given the fiscal situation facing Carnival & Royal Carribean.

Stephen Strange

fishy_fishy wrote: »

Would hazard a negative on that. Hours are up against max as is. Maybe they can get another crew on by this evening though.

3 Beijing flights showing for tomorrow

Stephen Strange

Stephen Strange wrote: »

3 Beijing flights showing for tomorrow

And 5 daily by Thursday.

easypazz

This reminds me of the salt during the big freeze.

There was virtually no salt left in council depots and loads got ordered.

The weather improved and we were left with mountains of salt.

Van.Bosch

easypazz wrote: »

This reminds me of the salt during the big freeze.

There was virtually no salt left in council depots and loads got ordered.

The weather improved and we were left with mountains of salt.

If we end up with 50 plane loads of medical supplies that cost 200 million just sitting around cos they aren’t needed I’ll be delighted.

Kev11491

easypazz wrote: »

This reminds me of the salt during the big freeze.

There was virtually no salt left in council depots and loads got ordered.

The weather improved and we were left with mountains of salt.

It's great that as a country we are in a position to get so much medical equipment, even if it's not needed. If it's not needed that's a bigger bonus.

easypazz

Van.Bosch wrote: »

If we end up with 50 plane loads of medical supplies that cost 200 million just sitting around cos they aren’t needed I’ll be delighted.

Kev11491 wrote: »

It's great that as a country we are in a position to get so much medical equipment, even if it's not needed. If it's not needed that's a bigger bonus.

Agree 100%

bikeman1

And if we don't need, I'm sure some of our EU family will bite our hand off for it.

A great operation and well done to the crew who came together at short notice to pick up today's 9018.

Even if we are left with a large amount of PPE after this it will get used. Either over the next few years or it will get shared across the EU or around the world.

The salt was a different issue as it needed to be kept dry or it quickly became unusable.

Irish Steve

I will be surprised if there is that much PPE left at the end of this event. If the predictions from the medical experts are right, we haven't yet seen the peak of the numbers that will be hospitalised, and in that scenario, the quantity of some items that will be used by sectors like the ambulance service will be massive, and it's becoming clear that the nursing homes and other residential sites are going to need a lot more than they have had available.

easypazz

Irish Steve wrote: »

I will be surprised if there is that much PPE left at the end of this event. If the predictions from the medical experts are right, we haven't yet seen the peak of the numbers that will be hospitalised, and in that scenario, the quantity of some items that will be used by sectors like the ambulance service will be massive, and it's becoming clear that the nursing homes and other residential sites are going to need a lot more than they have had available.

They had planned for 15000 cases today and its only 2900 as of last night, so hopefully it ends up being stored beside the e voting machines.

Another week or two will tell a lot.

martinsvi

Coyote wrote: »

have to say a thank you to the guys and girls for making this happen
a million thanks for them from everyone in Ireland

Regards

Coyote

do you reckon that mad lad from Ongar still filed his complaint?

donkey balls

martinsvi wrote: »

do you reckon that mad lad from Ongar still filed his complaint?

I don't know how someone living in a housing estate that was recently built well after the airport, How they can complain.

goingnowhere

If we have anything left over I guess EI will fly it over to our EU friends or beyond under similar ops to China. As this gets worse the ability for the receiving country to be able to resource itself to collect keeps going down

Iberia sent a few A350's out yesterday, Austrian has dispatched multiple B777's

Incoming today
EI9017 due 1124
EI9019 due 1812
EI9021 due 1721


EI9016 is en route
EI9018/20/22 scheduled for later

EI's website tracks the flights

salmocab

easypazz wrote: »

This reminds me of the salt during the big freeze.

There was virtually no salt left in council depots and loads got ordered.

The weather improved and we were left with mountains of salt.

People moaned that there wasn’t enough stock of salt. Then when we had enough and it wasn’t needed people moaned about that. The authorities are in a no win situation with people who can’t see by the end of their noses.

bk

We absolutely should have a stockpile of PPE gear anyway, for future incidents.

PPE gear was actually running out around the world in December and January, before the first case even hit Europe, because the PPE factories in China were shutdown due to the outbreak of the virus there and because the west had no stockpiles of this gear and were running on a "just in time" model of ordering from China.

This incident has shown how brittle the world supply chains are. Of course public health experts have been warning about this issue for years.

And what is worse, unlike rocksalt, PPE gear lasts for years (5 years is pretty typical). No reason why we can't have a few warehouses with a years worth of supply of PPE gear just in case. Continue to order new supply every month, put it in the warehouse and take the year old gear out of the warehouse out for use in hospitals, makes sure it doesn't go to waste, but have a backup if needed.

I'd actually go a step further then this and require the HSE to only buy PPE gear and other designated medical equipment from Irish manufacturers. There is already an Irish manufacturer of surgical facemasks who supplies the hse, who has doubled there output since this began and we also manufacture alcohol hand gel here. Extend that to the rest of the PPE gear, build up a local industry and supply of this gear.

If every country did that, then the worlds supply of this gear would be less brittle and countries could support one another during an emergency.

Obviously the focus at the moment is dealing with the immediate issue. But we should absolutely be learning from this and preparing for future incidents, to handle them better.

kub

I noticed EI are using 330's on the LHR/ DUB route over the last while.
Why is that does anyone know ?

L1011

kub wrote: »

I noticed EI are using 330's on the LHR/ DUB route over the last while.
Why is that does anyone know ?

Cargo capacity most likely.

LiamaDelta

L1011 wrote: »

Cargo capacity most likely.

And a considerable amount of people being repatriated from abroad via LHR, like the group from Peru yesterday.

Irish Steve

kub wrote: »

I noticed EI are using 330's on the LHR/ DUB route over the last while.
Why is that does anyone know ?

Probably cargo, or they may also be enabling better social separation in the cabin, given the numbers of potential carriers of Covid being brought home, and the low numbers travelling.

sherology

salmocab wrote: »

People moaned that there wasn’t enough stock of salt. Then when we had enough and it wasn’t needed people moaned about that. The authorities are in a no win situation with people who can’t see by the end of their noses.

Do you still have your iodine tablets - Duck and Cover 2.0

sherology

bk wrote: »

We absolutely should have a stockpile of PPE gear anyway, for future incidents.

PPE gear was actually running out around the world in December and January, before the first case even hit Europe, because the PPE factories in China were shutdown due to the outbreak of the virus there and because the west had no stockpiles of this gear and were running on a "just in time" model of ordering from China.

This incident has shown how brittle the world supply chains are. Of course public health experts have been warning about this issue for years.

And what is worse, unlike rocksalt, PPE gear lasts for years (5 years is pretty typical). No reason why we can't have a few warehouses with a years worth of supply of PPE gear just in case. Continue to order new supply every month, put it in the warehouse and take the year old gear out of the warehouse out for use in hospitals, makes sure it doesn't go to waste, but have a backup if needed.

I'd actually go a step further then this and require the HSE to only buy PPE gear and other designated medical equipment from Irish manufacturers. There is already an Irish manufacturer of surgical facemasks who supplies the hse, who has doubled there output since this began and we also manufacture alcohol hand gel here. Extend that to the rest of the PPE gear, build up a local industry and supply of this gear.

If every country did that, then the worlds supply of this gear would be less brittle and countries could support one another during an emergency.

Obviously the focus at the moment is dealing with the immediate issue. But we should absolutely be learning from this and preparing for future incidents, to handle them better.

One would hope the HSE (and staff) will learn from this and insist on such PPE being used as standard post-crisis. We have very high levels of hospital transmission of superbugs etc. This is a highly visible extension of how to keep a barrier between patient and carer.

salmocab

sherology wrote: »

Do you still have your iodine tablets - Duck and Cover 2.0

That was a joke, the media got hot and bothered they were bought distributed went past their sell by dates and forgotten about.