Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

easypazz

This reminds me of the salt during the big freeze.

There was virtually no salt left in council depots and loads got ordered.

The weather improved and we were left with mountains of salt.

Van.Bosch

easypazz wrote: »

This reminds me of the salt during the big freeze.

There was virtually no salt left in council depots and loads got ordered.

The weather improved and we were left with mountains of salt.

If we end up with 50 plane loads of medical supplies that cost 200 million just sitting around cos they aren’t needed I’ll be delighted.

Kev11491

easypazz wrote: »

This reminds me of the salt during the big freeze.

There was virtually no salt left in council depots and loads got ordered.

The weather improved and we were left with mountains of salt.

It's great that as a country we are in a position to get so much medical equipment, even if it's not needed. If it's not needed that's a bigger bonus.

easypazz

Van.Bosch wrote: »

If we end up with 50 plane loads of medical supplies that cost 200 million just sitting around cos they aren’t needed I’ll be delighted.

Kev11491 wrote: »

It's great that as a country we are in a position to get so much medical equipment, even if it's not needed. If it's not needed that's a bigger bonus.

Agree 100%

bikeman1

And if we don't need, I'm sure some of our EU family will bite our hand off for it.

A great operation and well done to the crew who came together at short notice to pick up today's 9018.

Even if we are left with a large amount of PPE after this it will get used. Either over the next few years or it will get shared across the EU or around the world.

The salt was a different issue as it needed to be kept dry or it quickly became unusable.

Irish Steve

I will be surprised if there is that much PPE left at the end of this event. If the predictions from the medical experts are right, we haven't yet seen the peak of the numbers that will be hospitalised, and in that scenario, the quantity of some items that will be used by sectors like the ambulance service will be massive, and it's becoming clear that the nursing homes and other residential sites are going to need a lot more than they have had available.

easypazz

Irish Steve wrote: »

I will be surprised if there is that much PPE left at the end of this event. If the predictions from the medical experts are right, we haven't yet seen the peak of the numbers that will be hospitalised, and in that scenario, the quantity of some items that will be used by sectors like the ambulance service will be massive, and it's becoming clear that the nursing homes and other residential sites are going to need a lot more than they have had available.

They had planned for 15000 cases today and its only 2900 as of last night, so hopefully it ends up being stored beside the e voting machines.

Another week or two will tell a lot.

martinsvi

Coyote wrote: »

have to say a thank you to the guys and girls for making this happen
a million thanks for them from everyone in Ireland

Regards

Coyote

do you reckon that mad lad from Ongar still filed his complaint?

donkey balls

martinsvi wrote: »

do you reckon that mad lad from Ongar still filed his complaint?

I don't know how someone living in a housing estate that was recently built well after the airport, How they can complain.

goingnowhere

If we have anything left over I guess EI will fly it over to our EU friends or beyond under similar ops to China. As this gets worse the ability for the receiving country to be able to resource itself to collect keeps going down

Iberia sent a few A350's out yesterday, Austrian has dispatched multiple B777's

Incoming today
EI9017 due 1124
EI9019 due 1812
EI9021 due 1721


EI9016 is en route
EI9018/20/22 scheduled for later

EI's website tracks the flights

salmocab

easypazz wrote: »

This reminds me of the salt during the big freeze.

There was virtually no salt left in council depots and loads got ordered.

The weather improved and we were left with mountains of salt.

People moaned that there wasn’t enough stock of salt. Then when we had enough and it wasn’t needed people moaned about that. The authorities are in a no win situation with people who can’t see by the end of their noses.

bk

We absolutely should have a stockpile of PPE gear anyway, for future incidents.

PPE gear was actually running out around the world in December and January, before the first case even hit Europe, because the PPE factories in China were shutdown due to the outbreak of the virus there and because the west had no stockpiles of this gear and were running on a "just in time" model of ordering from China.

This incident has shown how brittle the world supply chains are. Of course public health experts have been warning about this issue for years.

And what is worse, unlike rocksalt, PPE gear lasts for years (5 years is pretty typical). No reason why we can't have a few warehouses with a years worth of supply of PPE gear just in case. Continue to order new supply every month, put it in the warehouse and take the year old gear out of the warehouse out for use in hospitals, makes sure it doesn't go to waste, but have a backup if needed.

I'd actually go a step further then this and require the HSE to only buy PPE gear and other designated medical equipment from Irish manufacturers. There is already an Irish manufacturer of surgical facemasks who supplies the hse, who has doubled there output since this began and we also manufacture alcohol hand gel here. Extend that to the rest of the PPE gear, build up a local industry and supply of this gear.

If every country did that, then the worlds supply of this gear would be less brittle and countries could support one another during an emergency.

Obviously the focus at the moment is dealing with the immediate issue. But we should absolutely be learning from this and preparing for future incidents, to handle them better.

kub

I noticed EI are using 330's on the LHR/ DUB route over the last while.
Why is that does anyone know ?

L1011

kub wrote: »

I noticed EI are using 330's on the LHR/ DUB route over the last while.
Why is that does anyone know ?

Cargo capacity most likely.

LiamaDelta

L1011 wrote: »

Cargo capacity most likely.

And a considerable amount of people being repatriated from abroad via LHR, like the group from Peru yesterday.

Irish Steve

kub wrote: »

I noticed EI are using 330's on the LHR/ DUB route over the last while.
Why is that does anyone know ?

Probably cargo, or they may also be enabling better social separation in the cabin, given the numbers of potential carriers of Covid being brought home, and the low numbers travelling.

sherology

salmocab wrote: »

People moaned that there wasn’t enough stock of salt. Then when we had enough and it wasn’t needed people moaned about that. The authorities are in a no win situation with people who can’t see by the end of their noses.

Do you still have your iodine tablets - Duck and Cover 2.0

sherology

bk wrote: »

We absolutely should have a stockpile of PPE gear anyway, for future incidents.

PPE gear was actually running out around the world in December and January, before the first case even hit Europe, because the PPE factories in China were shutdown due to the outbreak of the virus there and because the west had no stockpiles of this gear and were running on a "just in time" model of ordering from China.

This incident has shown how brittle the world supply chains are. Of course public health experts have been warning about this issue for years.

And what is worse, unlike rocksalt, PPE gear lasts for years (5 years is pretty typical). No reason why we can't have a few warehouses with a years worth of supply of PPE gear just in case. Continue to order new supply every month, put it in the warehouse and take the year old gear out of the warehouse out for use in hospitals, makes sure it doesn't go to waste, but have a backup if needed.

I'd actually go a step further then this and require the HSE to only buy PPE gear and other designated medical equipment from Irish manufacturers. There is already an Irish manufacturer of surgical facemasks who supplies the hse, who has doubled there output since this began and we also manufacture alcohol hand gel here. Extend that to the rest of the PPE gear, build up a local industry and supply of this gear.

If every country did that, then the worlds supply of this gear would be less brittle and countries could support one another during an emergency.

Obviously the focus at the moment is dealing with the immediate issue. But we should absolutely be learning from this and preparing for future incidents, to handle them better.

One would hope the HSE (and staff) will learn from this and insist on such PPE being used as standard post-crisis. We have very high levels of hospital transmission of superbugs etc. This is a highly visible extension of how to keep a barrier between patient and carer.

salmocab

sherology wrote: »

Do you still have your iodine tablets - Duck and Cover 2.0

That was a joke, the media got hot and bothered they were bought distributed went past their sell by dates and forgotten about.

Stephen Strange

LiamaDelta wrote: »

And a considerable amount of people being repatriated from abroad via LHR, like the group from Peru yesterday.

All LHR arrivals over the last few days have had less than 120 pax, including Peru arrivals yesterday

Tenger

Using the A330 On DUB-LHR could be to keep the aircraft themselves running (long term storage has its own costs and procedures) or even to keep the A330 flight crew current.
Social distancing could also be a plausible idea, even with 120 passengers there will be plenty of space between everyone.

Similar with the A321LRs, prob easier to give each one a couple of sectors every 2nd day than park them up for 2 months.

Kev11491

Taken from insta.

California Dreamer

Kev11491 wrote: »

Taken from insta.

Where is that?

easypazz

sherology wrote: »

One would hope the HSE (and staff) will learn from this and insist on such PPE being used as standard post-crisis. We have very high levels of hospital transmission of superbugs etc. This is a highly visible extension of how to keep a barrier between patient and carer.

There is an issue with that because nobody knows who is behind the mask and we all engage in a mixture of lip reading as well as hearing, so they find it hard to communicate.

Its also uncomfortable to wear.

They will also consume a huge amount of single use plastic which in itself is supposed to be phased out.

goingnowhere

California Dreamer wrote: »

Where is that?

T2 LHR

A319er

Seems all 5 flights tomorrow cancelled due lack of overfly permissions,
Let's hope it's only a temporary glitch

omega man

A319er wrote: »

Seems all 5 flights tomorrow cancelled due lack of overfly permissions,
Let's hope it's only a temporary glitch

Should be back up and running Thursday

Inquitus

A319er wrote: »

Seems all 5 flights tomorrow cancelled due lack of overfly permissions,
Let's hope it's only a temporary glitch

Seems to be one en route EIN9020

https://www.flightradar24.com/EIN9020/244cedcc

goingnowhere

Guessing its the Russians? They rigorously control overflight permissions.