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Pope Francis Compares Transgendered People To Nuclear Weapons

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    #272
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    1123heavy wrote: »
    It appears nobody has a credible response to the truths that I stated earlier, I can therefore conclude that you all know what I said is the truth. I just don't understand why you all insist on engaging in such obscene behaviour when you are all fully aware of the consequences.

    Wheres your scientific evidence?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #273
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,062 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    1123heavy wrote: »
    You're going around in circles (again might I add). I stated that the whole point of this thread is for discussion, which it is. I have engaged in thorough discussion ever since I opened this account, in all threads but those relating to homosexuals and trans, simply because as I seek to engage in discussion, you people simply put up a barrier of abuse and refuse to engage in a debate. When I stated my theory, none of you engaged in intelligent debate in order to discuss, rather you tried to mock it using one liners (poor ones at that). I can only take this lack of response as you all conceding defeat and therefore agreeing to what I said, seeing as though you have nothing else to say to it.

    So no, I haven't gone back on what I said at any stage.

    Where is your scientific evidence?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #274
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    And it has to be said, nobody has yet given a clear reading of what Il Papa meant.


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    #275
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Where is your scientific evidence?

    Ah tone it down a bit now Joey, you know yourself, Luffy will have found the treasure before you'll get any 'evidence' from them ;)


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    #276
    delthedriver
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,958 ✭✭✭delthedriver


    Ladies and Gentlemen, stay cool :cool:

    A man wearing a white frock compares transgendered people to nuclear weapons !!!:rolleyes:

    Tbf he obviously has a sense of humour, or he is being quoted out of context??

    :)


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    #277
    fran17
    Registered Users Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭fran17


    Uncle Ruckus wrote: »
    This coming from an elderly virgin in a frock.

    The man holds a degree in chemistry,theology and taught both literature and psychology at university levels.So I'd wager he is a damn sight more qualified than you buddy.


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    #278
    fran17
    Registered Users Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭fran17


    Links234 wrote: »
    I...

    ...

    I got nothin'! :confused:

    This is why I tend not to even bother engaging fran in a discussion, I should've known better.

    I agree Links.To engage in discussion one must both ask AND answer questions.


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    #279
    reprise
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭reprise


    fran17 wrote: »
    The man holds a degree in chemistry,theology and taught both literature and psychology at university levels.So I'd wager he is a damn sight more qualified than you buddy.

    This is boards. Aint no-one as smart as a keyboard warrior, pc atheist.


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    #280
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    A question for any Christians here: do you love transgender people, as Jesus demands?


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    #281
    1123heavy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    The King of Moo wrote: »
    A question for any Christians here: do you love transgender people, as Jesus demands?

    Anybody of any good faith will have issues with it. It is vile and one of the things that all good people will unite to fight against.

    MOD: User banned for continually ignoring mod instuction.


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    #282
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    1123heavy wrote: »
    Anybody of any good faith will have issues with it. It is vile and one of the things that all good people will unite to fight against.

    If you people put half the effort into helping the poor or something your God talked about you might actually achieve some good.


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    #283
    The King of Moo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    1123heavy wrote: »
    Anybody of any good faith will have issues with it. It is vile and one of the things that all good people will unite to fight against.

    Why do you think gender modification is vile?

    And again, do you love everyone, as Jesus insisted you must?
    Yes or no?


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    #284
    Nodin
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    delthedriver wrote: »
    Ladies and Gentlemen, stay cool :cool:

    A man wearing a white frock compares transgendered people to nuclear weapons !!!:rolleyes:

    Tbf he obviously has a sense of humour, or he is being quoted out of context??

    :)


    Sort of out of context

    My take on it.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=94364766&postcount=33


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    #285
    1123heavy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    shruikan2553 wrote: »
    If you people put half the effort into helping the poor or something your God talked about you might actually achieve some good.

    Do tell me how you have come to the conclusion that I don't ?

    EDIT: He's also your God too, whether you like it or not he made you.


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    #286
    B_Wayne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭B_Wayne


    fran17 wrote: »
    The man holds a degree in chemistry,theology and taught both literature and psychology at university levels.So I'd wager he is a damn sight more qualified than you buddy.

    Except the scientific method doesn't include ignoring all existing research and pointing out a guys credentials as proof.....


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    #287
    conorh91
    Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Links234 wrote: »
    He's speaking as the representative of God, is he not?
    Not when he's speaking to journalists he isn't.

    The doctrine of infallibility has a tight, limited application. Roman Catholicism holds the Pope out as a pastor, and not typically as one who can speak for God.

    In fact Pope Francis has quoted one of his predecessors by saying "I am only infallible if I speak ex cathedra, but I shall never do that, so I am not infallible.”


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    #288
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    1123heavy wrote: »
    Do tell me how you have come to the conclusion that I don't ?

    EDIT: He's also your God too, whether you like it or not he made you.

    All you do is hate people. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone and yet here you are, acting as if you arent sinful.

    No he didnt, I have no god. What happened was mammy and daddy loved each other very much and then theres some biology stuff for 9 months and eventually I was born.


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    #289
    bodice ripper
    Registered Users Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    1123heavy wrote: »
    Do tell me how you have come to the conclusion that I don't ?

    EDIT: He's also your God too, whether you like it or not he made you.

    My god could beat up your god. Now what?


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    #290
    1123heavy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    shruikan2553 wrote: »
    All you do is hate people. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone and yet here you are, acting as if you arent sinful.

    No he didnt, I have no god. What happened was mammy and daddy loved each other very much and then theres some biology stuff for 9 months and eventually I was born.

    Considering this is an anonymous discussion forum, I'm interested in knowing how you believe all I do is "hate people" !?!?

    I could be here all night talking to you about how illogical atheism is but I don't think you have the capacity to cope with the info. Keep it the way you want, we (along with the entire universe) magically appeared out of nothing, I often wonder if atheists believe this only because they can't be bothered to do some proper research and have a bit of guidance in their lives, rather believe you can do whatever you want as we seem to have come from nothing ... let me know how that works out for you ...


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    #291
    1123heavy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    bodice ripper wrote: »
    My god could beat up your god. Now what?

    You haven't understood the concept of God, there is one God. All the monotheistic religions believe in the existence of the same God and there is ample amount of evidence for his existence.


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    #292
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    1123heavy wrote: »
    Considering this is an anonymous discussion forum, I'm interested in knowing how you believe all I do is "hate people" !?!?

    I could be here all night talking to you about how illogical atheism is but I don't think you have the capacity to cope with the info. Keep it the way you want, we (along with the entire universe) magically appeared out of nothing, I often wonder if atheists believe this only because they can't be bothered to do some proper research and have a bit of guidance in their lives, rather believe you can do whatever you want as we seem to have come from nothing ... let me know how that works out for you ...

    It always comes back to the atheists. I happen to know quite a few devout Catholics who would never dream of speaking about a transgender person the way you did on this thread. Because unlike you they embody the true meaning of the Christian faith, they believe in loving their fellow human despite their flaws and they don't judge people for not having the same beliefs they do. They are lovely people to be around, you should try it sometimes, you might learn a bit of decent humanity. People like you used to make me embarrassed to be a Christian.


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    #293
    fran17
    Registered Users Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭fran17


    eviltwin wrote: »
    That idiot really needs to keep his pie hole closed. And the media really need to stop reporting his crap and start treating him the way they would any other fruitcake.
    eviltwin wrote: »
    It always comes back to the atheists. I happen to know quite a few devout Catholics who would never dream of speaking about a transgender person the way you did on this thread. Because unlike you they embody the true meaning of the Christian faith, they believe in loving their fellow human despite their flaws and they don't judge people for not having the same beliefs they do. They are lovely people to be around, you should try it sometimes, you might learn a bit of decent humanity. People like you used to make me embarrassed to be a Christian.

    Remind us again about loving your fellow human being despite their flaws and not judging people...


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    #294
    Donkey Oaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    1123heavy wrote: »
    It is vile and one of the things that all good people will unite to fight against.

    Unfortunate words on the AH forum, stranger.

    Links is one of us.

    You 'ain't.


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    #295
    B_Wayne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭B_Wayne


    fran17 wrote: »
    Remind us again about loving your fellow human being despite their flaws and not judging people...

    Neither yours or Heavy's language is non judgemental........


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    #296
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    fran17 wrote: »
    Remind us again about loving your fellow human being despite their flaws and not judging people...

    I don't judge him. I don't agree with anything he says and I think his opinions are sh!t but I would be friendly and talk to the man if I ever met him, I wouldn't shun him or avoid him simply because he believes things I don't.


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    #297
    darkpagandeath
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    Cba reading the whole thing, OK God's design if you believe in it. Man is part of it, Man has created technology. It is still all part of the plan Or do the believers think Man is more powerful than God and can overrule the design in progress.... To the believers We are in the system we cannot change it from the inside. Again if you believe. So again what ever happens is all part of that plan.


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    #298
    Links234
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    Donkey Oaty wrote: »
    Unfortunate words on the AH forum, stranger.

    Links is one of us.

    You 'ain't.

    Oh wow, well that's kinda heartening :3


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    #299
    Meesared
    Registered Users Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Meesared


    Links234 wrote: »
    You're accusing me of untruths? After you've been so blatantly caught out yourself? The sheer NERV of some people! Even Gendo Ikari would find your ethics questionable.

    As to your question, you got your answer. Or about as close to an answer as is possible, because your question is utterly dishonest in the first place. There's no "Veto" because that's not how things work, parents have to consent on behalf of minors for all medical treatment.
    Links234 wrote: »
    Ah tone it down a bit now Joey, you know yourself, Luffy will have found the treasure before you'll get any 'evidence' from them ;)

    I see what you did there :p


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    #300
    fran17
    Registered Users Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭fran17


    eviltwin wrote: »
    I don't judge him. I don't agree with anything he says and I think his opinions are sh!t but I would be friendly and talk to the man if I ever met him, I wouldn't shun him or avoid him simply because he believes things I don't.

    Right....And this conversation never happened ;)


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    #301
    bodice ripper
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    1123heavy wrote: »
    You haven't understood the concept of God, there is one God. All the monotheistic religions believe in the existence of the same God and there is ample amount of evidence for his existence.

    You think your puny human brain understands the concept of god?

    Must be a **** god if it can be grasped by a mere mortal.


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