Sectarianism in the Republic of Ireland

Strumms

Hitchens wrote: »

is it 'cos you're from Kildare? :eek::pac:

:P I'm not even from Kildare and in fact I've moved from there very recently, must change that.

The_Captain

I was at a party in college where a young Irish girl took exception to an English guy coming over here for college.

She actually compared him "taking a college from an Irish person" to the Cromwellian conquest of Ireland

In fairness her comments went down like a lead balloon and she was swiftly taken home by her friends and put to bed

Karl Stein

I wonder what OP thinks of a Rugby loving unrepentant Fenian bastard like me?

diomed

contactbackup wrote: »

Sectarianism in the Republic of Ireland

Lesson 1: The name of the country is Ireland or Éire, not Republic Of Ireland.

Electric Sheep

Strumms wrote: »

:P I'm not even from Kildare and in fact I've moved from there very recently, must change that.

Blow in:p

Karl Stein

Karl Stein wrote: »

I wonder what OP thinks of a Rugby loving unrepentant Fenian bastard like me?

You can do no wrong in my eyes since you posted about how to clean up a laptop.

Karl Stein

Candie wrote: »

You can do no wrong in my eyes since you posted about how to clean up a laptop.

Glad to be of help!

Fratton Fred

I've got friends who'll greet me with awroit mate, ows it goin. Cor blimey it's a bit faackin parky tonight. To which they'll get a top o the mornin to ya, tis a grand stretch in t evenin to be shure to be shure. Other than that, no one ever takes the piss out of my accent.

I've never been refused service, in fact I find a lot of Irish people make an extra effort and are overly nice to the English.

I had an old guy have a go at me before I moved over. I was wearing my pompey shirt and he told me they all knew I was English, I didn't have to flaunt it by wearing my football shirt. At this point, the lads sat either side of him in Liverpool shirts took the piss out of him mercilessly.

Nodin

Karl Stein wrote: »

I wonder what OP thinks of a Rugby loving unrepentant Fenian bastard like me?

If you put the ball into the scrum he tries to listen to see if it's ticking.

Sunnyisland

Karl Stein wrote: »

I wonder what OP thinks of a Rugby loving unrepentant Fenian bastard like me?

Your still a bollex :-)

tipptom

Ah,I had his number as early as when he said that he thought Pat had stopped working on the buildings in 1976.

contactbackup

Karl Stein wrote: »

I wonder what OP thinks of a Rugby loving unrepentant Fenian bastard like me?

What does that actually mean

contactbackup

Strumms wrote: »

Well why so upset about it ? Why start two separate threads minutes apart ? Going by the tone of what you post, the defensive nature of your replies which seem to be driven by the fact you are not being agreed with or perhaps some neurological issue coming into play you definately do have some sort of deep seated issue.

I am still awaiting you to clarify why I am the only one here with a victim complex btw. Feel free to dodge that :pac:

What are you on about?

Strumms

contactbackup wrote: »

What are you on about?

Think that question might me more apt when put to you my skinny friend ?

But dodge away

Smiles35

I think their was a certain rugby set your after op. People like Tony O' Rieally .ect
But you may as well be chasing cambrige rowing nowadays.

aido79

diomed wrote: »

Lesson 1: The name of the country is Ireland or Éire, not Republic Of Ireland.

I'm surprised he didn't call it southern Ireland.

Buona Fortuna

contactbackup wrote: »

I am well aware of banter. After living away on bases and previously boarding at school, rugby tours etc.. I am well aware of banter.

Its not so much that you're English. its that you are fcuking posh.

Build a bridge.

Get over it.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

diomed wrote: »

Lesson 1: The name of the country is Ireland or Éire, not Republic Of Ireland.

Who says he means Ireland as a nation? Maybe he just wants to limit the conversagtion to the 26 counties? And who the hell actually referrs to the country as "Eire"?

Knowing AH, if he'd he written "sectarianism in Ireland" we'd be talking about the North right now.

DEFTLEFTHAND

I've always held Church of Ireland members in high regard. Good decent charitable people. We're all Christians on this island, there's no need for any hostility.

westcoast66

We have neighbours who are English. Its kind of weird, they accept tardiness from people and seem to think that that's the way things work over here. Things like a tradesman being a few hours late for something or never showing up. If that happened to us we'd tell them to f off and never come back unless they had a damn good excuse.

Just a little Samba

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

Sometimes it's not the accent, it's the perceived attitude.

Prince Philip is incredibly popular among some people here because he is seen as a kind of anti-establishment figure who doesn't give a flying fark about protocol (even though he is nothing of the sort).

One strategy is to pretend to be American. People will fawn over you.

I don't think The Greek is popular at all. I think Irish people just find his idiocy amazingly funny and every racial slur he spouts more hilarious than the last.

IMHO the reason Irish people think he's great is because he shows up the idea of monarchy for exactly what it is, outdated nonsense.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Just a little Samba wrote: »

I don't think The Greek is popular at all. I think Irish people just find his idiocy amazingly funny and every racial slur he spouts more hilarious than the last.

IMHO the reason Irish people think he's great is because he shows up the idea of monarchy for exactly what it is, outdated nonsense.

Absolute Balderdash.

Menas

Just a little Samba wrote: »

I don't think The Greek is popular at all. I think Irish people just find his idiocy amazingly funny and every racial slur he spouts more hilarious than the last.

IMHO the reason Irish people think he's great is because he shows up the idea of monarchy for exactly what it is, outdated nonsense.

Cant be agreeing with that at all. Prince Philip has that 'sure feck it' attitude that us Irish tend to love.

Mint Sauce

Maybe they just dont like you OP.

Only time my nationality comes up is when it comes to watching football or rugby, and will I support Ireland or England, and then its only from a few, and in the form of banter.

In 16 years I have never been refused service, the closest i have incountetered xenophobia or sectarianism i could count on one hand, half of which was from drunks, and the others making assumptions based on my name.

whatdoicare

contactbackup wrote: »

If you read the post it never says I was refused service. I was implying some people can be chippy. Rolled eyes and whispers when the brit changes his order,,,it does get noticed,

blatantly being ignored in shops/bars when trying to go about my daily business

This is what's in the first post, is this not refusal of service? Looks like it to me.

Menas

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Maybe they just dont like you OP.

We have stated this a few times to the OP, but he does not want to accept it. More convenient for his agenda to rabbit on about Irish insecurity etc....

Its not us OP, its you.

The J Stands for Jay

contactbackup wrote: »

explain this difference

You like Mrs. Brown's Boys, we think it's ****e.

The J Stands for Jay

diomed wrote: »

Lesson 1: The name of the country is Ireland or Éire, not Republic Of Ireland.

He's just being descriptive. The OP just wasn't sure how to distinguish from Northern Ireland. He is is from the Constitutional Monarchy of Great Britain and Northern Ireland after all.

Hitchens

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Cant be agreeing with that at all. Prince Philip has that 'sure feck it' attitude that us Irish tend to love.

"If people feel it has no further part to play, then for goodness sake, let's end the thing on amicable terms without having a row about it."

• On sentiment against the British monarchy.

SaveOurLyric

contactbackup wrote: »

As a British national of Irish Heritage I encounter ....just blatantly being ignored in shops/bars when trying to go about my daily business.

That's how we like it here - to go about our business unhassled.

What are you looking for; people to recognise you are English and bow to you, doff their hats, roll out a red carpet and sing God Save the Queen for you ?

contactbackup

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Maybe they just dont like you OP.

Only time my nationality comes up is when it comes to watching football or rugby, and will I support Ireland or England, and then its only from a few, and in the form of banter.

In 16 years I have never been refused service, the closest i have incountetered xenophobia or sectarianism i could count on one hand, half of which was from drunks, and the others making assumptions based on my name.

Why is everyone saying about being refused service. I never said that but it seems to be what the masses here have digested from the thread. Very odd.

contactbackup

McGaggs wrote: »

You like Mrs. Brown's Boys, we think it's ****e.

Yet how many irish TV awards does it have...whats its viewing figures. It is loved by the same ilk.

contactbackup

Trigger Happy wrote: »

We have stated this a few times to the OP, but he does not want to accept it. More convenient for his agenda to rabbit on about Irish insecurity etc....

Its not us OP, its you.

Clearly not. I get along well with Irish people except the ones who use terms such as Mott or Deadly.

contactbackup

Noblong wrote: »

I think their was a certain rugby set your after op. People like Tony O' Rieally .ect
But you may as well be chasing cambrige rowing nowadays.

Babelfish says no

Banjoxed

contactbackup wrote: »

Stating fact at the end of a post does not make it so. Even if you are 12, which you very well just might be.
I have no victims complex I just started a debate on a issue that exists on a message board. I don't let it effect my life and it doesn't or can't have any effect on my professional life.

There are some, not many, Irish people who have such a brittle sense of identity that anything that might remotely suggest to them that the Republic is anything less than picture perfect in every respect, is a personal affront to them. No different from the scumbags who I occasionally met in London who never failed to bring up potatoes, Guinness, the IRA or pronounciation of the letter "H".

TL;DR there are pr1cks everywhere.

Smiles35

contactbackup wrote: »

Babelfish says no

I see you've met D4 then.

John Doe1

I don't think a lot of people know what Sectarianism actually means on this thread:p

As a protestant growing up in East Donegal I never had any issues at all. This might have something to do with the fact that the area is pretty much split 50/50 in terms of population. Also, there seems to be a lot more mixing and intermarriage in this area than across the border.

The only time I have ever had anything which could be construed as malicious directed at me was some inbred Kerryman while at Trinity of all places.

Hitchens

John Doe1 wrote: »

I don't think a lot of people know what Sectarianism actually means on this thread:p

As a protestant growing up in East Donegal I never had any issues at all. This might have something to do with the fact that the area is pretty much split 50/50 in terms of population. Also, there seems to be a lot more mixing and intermarriage in this area than across the border.

The only time I have ever had anything which could be construed as malicious directed at me was some inbred Kerryman while at Trinity of all places.

he might have thought you were an inbred Donegalman ........just saying

coopdog85

Was on holidays in Puerta Del Carmen last year, stayed in a really nice hotel & as we went in September it was really after quietening down in the hotel. There were only maybe 20 people staying in the whole place. Everyone very friendly, nice & quiet...apart from the English couple that was staying there.

The guy used to go down to eat his breakfast every morning topless, with his tshirt tucked into his shorts. Have no idea why he couldn't put it on!

By the pool everyone lazing around either chatting, reading a book, in for a quiet swim or whatever. It was lovely really quiet. Until the English couple came. He used to bring an English flag down to the pool with him & tie it across the back of the 2 sunbeds. Still no problem with that I just found it pointless. He & his wife would drink cocktails all day & get absolutely destroyed drunk & get very. Literally the entire pool area could hear their conversations. We were there 10 days & they had sex in the swimming pool two or 3 times. No need it it with elderly people around & also I didn't want to be swimming in their contaminated water.

What took the biscuit though was on our last night me & my girlfriend were coming home after being out for dinner & a few drinks. We found the English couple passed out in the foyer of the hotel. She had pissed herself & one of the 2 of them had gotten sick. They were an absolute disaster & yes that experience did put me off English people. They're just ignorant people. There was no need for any of those incidents to happen but they did due to the ignorant & crass nature of the English people. That chip on their shoulder isn't going anywhere any time soon.

Wang King

coopdog85 wrote: »

Was on holidays in Puerta Del Carmen last year, stayed in a really nice hotel & as we went in September it was really after quietening down in the hotel. There were only maybe 20 people staying in the whole place. Everyone very friendly, nice & quiet...apart from the English couple that was staying there.

The guy used to go down to eat his breakfast every morning topless, with his tshirt tucked into his shorts. Have no idea why he couldn't put it on!

By the pool everyone lazing around either chatting, reading a book, in for a quiet swim or whatever. It was lovely really quiet. Until the English couple came. He used to bring an English flag down to the pool with him & tie it across the back of the 2 sunbeds. Still no problem with that I just found it pointless. He & his wife would drink cocktails all day & get absolutely destroyed drunk & get very. Literally the entire pool area could hear their conversations. We were there 10 days & they had sex in the swimming pool two or 3 times. No need it it with elderly people around & also I didn't want to be swimming in their contaminated water.

What took the biscuit though was on our last night me & my girlfriend were coming home after being out for dinner & a few drinks. We found the English couple passed out in the foyer of the hotel. She had pissed herself & one of the 2 of them had gotten sick. They were an absolute disaster & yes that experience did put me off English people. They're just ignorant people. There was no need for any of those incidents to happen but they did due to the ignorant & crass nature of the English people. That chip on their shoulder isn't going anywhere any time soon.

Just as well the Irish don't act like this while on hols

LorMal

pablomakaveli wrote: »

You sound like someone who cries into their pillow when someone makes fun of them. Go figure.

'Go figure'..what part of the USA are you from?

pablomakaveli

LorMal wrote: »

'Go figure'..what part of the USA are you from?

Wow you're a bright one. Did that make you feel like a big man? Maybe you can look your missus in the eye today when she manhandles you into the bedroom.

LorMal

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

That's how we like it here - to go about our business unhassled.

What are you looking for; people to recognise you are English and bow to you, doff their hats, roll out a red carpet and sing God Save the Queen for you ?

Nasty, insecure, chip on the shoulder..

LorMal

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Wow you're a bright one. Did that make you feel like a big man? Maybe you can look your missus in the eye today when she manhandles you into the bedroom.

Ha! Spoken like a true American!

catbear

Ignorance is easily take advantage of. I've won lot of bets with drunks who's version of their own history is very limited. The amount of people who don't realise that Cromwell was a regicide is hilarious!

steamengine

catbear wrote: »

Ignorance is easily take advantage of. I've won lot of bets with drunks who's version of their own history is very limited. The amount of people who don't realise that Cromwell was a regicide is hilarious!

Indeed, he chased some of my ancestors out of England, over here. Some are still here, so the place can't be that bad. I think what people are inclined to forget is, how intertwined the English and Irish are genetically. Perhaps they could be best described as squabbling members of the same family.

pablomakaveli

LorMal wrote: »

Ha! Spoken like a true American!

Well you've got an American wit, or a very dull one in other words.

LorMal

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Well you've got an American wit, or a very dull one in other words.

its Texas, ain't it? I'm right, ain't I? Have you got a Cowboy hat and a pick up truck?
Go figure

somuj

i will live in hope that all ejits in this thread will have a stroke and die :-)


oh **** might get banned

that first line of book I am writing

InTheTrees

LorMal wrote: »

its Texas, ain't it? I'm right, ain't I? Have you got a Cowboy hat and a pick up truck?
Go figure

Really?