A political message to the people of Eire!

Chucken

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I accept your self correction and by extension apology. :cool:

You didn't get an apology. :cool:

Pocoyo

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Please - no personal attacks. I'm setting out my own thoughts and tired of the puppet / sheeple label that people put on people who dare to disagree but have a different opinion on this.

You would of been the first in line to spit on the 1916 risers.

KingBrian2

What I can't stand about the water protesters is that they can't name what it is they are being repressed for. Austerity essentially means government reduces spending yet this translates as government harassment. At most it is an inconvenience to pay the water tax but it is not actual repression. A case of vocal acrobatics to translate that as government is mean and imposing harsh brutal measures.

PM Thatcher was conducting very harsh tactics against the coal miners who lets be fair where in a dying industry when she was applying austerity. The continent also has to deal with a very raw element of belligerents. We thank god don't have to deal with that yet go on as though the politicians are actually criminals. Basically a blatant disregard for civic duty.

Pinch Flat

Pocoyo wrote: »

You would of been the first in line to spit on the 1916 risers.

Ironically I come from a long line of republicans - Amongst my forefathers are a Sinn Féin mayor in office before the foundation of the state, members of the Irish communist party, one of whom gave his life in the Spanish civil war fighting fascism and IRA volunteers who saw active service during the War of independence.

endacl

Pocoyo wrote: »

You would of been the first in line to spit on the 1916 risers.

Bit of a hysterical stretch..?

Pocoyo

endacl wrote: »

Bit of a hysterical stretch..?

Bit of a joke more like,Dont get all 'Ryan Tubridy' on me.

SweetChaos

So they are going on a hunger strike because they have been moved to wheatfield well boo fúcking hoo

They should reopen spike island and feck them down there give us all some peace

irishfeen

Pocoyo wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205138761722135

One clean box into his smug face would make my day - can't stand the little posh boy.

Pocoyo

irishfeen wrote: »

One clean box into his smug face would make my day - can't stand the little posh boy.

Violence is never the answer,Remember the pro regime side are supposed to be the civilized ones.

WallyGUFC

Imagine this clown being voted in again and actually having a say in the next Government. Him, Coppinger, Daly etc. Hopefully that day never comes.

Chucken

SweetChaos wrote: »

So they are going on a hunger strike because they have been moved to wheatfield well boo fúcking hoo

They should reopen spike island and feck them down there give us all some peace

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Guy:Incognito

Chucken wrote: »

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
First they came for the people that continuously disobeyed court orders. Then the put them in jail, as is the law

Then everyone got on with their lives and it didn't escalate to some ridiculous dystopian future, much as some people would like

FYP

Dan_Solo

irishfeen wrote: »

One clean box into his smug face would make my day - can't stand the little posh boy.

No need, just get onto AGS or the DPP and they'll do the job for you.

Dan_Solo

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Angela Merkel Denis O'Brien Golden Circle

FYP.

Guy:Incognito

Dan_Solo wrote: »

No need, just get onto AGS or the DPP and they'll do the job for you.

Dan_Solo wrote: »

FYP.

Is having to obey the law such a hardship for people ? All they have to do is sit on their hole in a chair in front of the telly.

Im sure if a couple of lads stood in front and behind your car and decided they didn't want you to go to work youd have no issue with the Gardaí hauling them off? Would you be campaigning for their release if they kept doing it every morning despite the courts ordering them not too?

Chucken

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

FYP

It's getting there already. A pity you refuse to see it.

Dan_Solo

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Is having to obey the law such a hardship for people ?

That depends, are we talking peaceful protest here or swindling millions?

Timberrrrrrrr

Dan_Solo wrote: »

That depends, are we talking peaceful protest here or swindling millions?

Neither

We're talking about court mandated restrictions.

bjork

have they called the Citizens advice Bureau?
They wouldn't like those guy on their ass. They don't give up

Dan_Solo

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Neither

We're talking about court mandated restrictions.

Which were corrupt and politically motivated in the first place.
How many months did those thieving bankers get again? Was it, eh, zero by any chance?
Open your eyes.

Dog of Tears

Considering he has a law degree, there's a decent chance he understands what 'Contempt of Court' actually means, and yet he leads his moronic followers up the garden path.

Sometimes I think there should be laws in place to protect stupid people from shysters. Other times I think 'fcuk them', they deserve it.
Only thing I'm really sure of is that Murphy is a horrible little man.

Timberrrrrrrr

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Which were corrupt and politically motivated in the first place.
How many months did those thieving bankers get again? Was it, eh, zero by any chance?
Open your eyes.

:rolleyes:

Do you have a script or do you just wing it?

Dan_Solo

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Do you have a script or do you just wing it?

Why, do you normally need to consult a script yourself to compose one line posts? Mmmmk.

Dan_Solo

Dog of Tears wrote: »

Sometimes I think there should be laws in place to protect stupid people from shysters. Other times I think 'fcuk them', they deserve it.

No, I'm afraid we live in a democracy and people can vote to suffer under the establishment parties if they want to.

Guy:Incognito

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Which were corrupt and politically motivated in the first place..

These cases have been going on since long before Paul Murphy came across the phrase political policing after he was arrested.

How long should they be allowed to prevent people from working because they feel like it? Can I do that to you?

Chucken

Dog of Tears wrote: »

Considering he has a law degree, there's a decent chance he understands what 'Contempt of Court' actually means, and yet he leads his moronic followers up the garden path.

Sometimes I think there should be laws in place to protect stupid people from shysters. Other times I think 'fcuk them', they deserve it.
Only thing I'm really sure of is that Murphy is a horrible little man.

If you stop for just ONE second and think...!
Paul Murphy speaks at rallies in DUBLIN. I've never heard him speak and as I've said on here already, I never heard of him until last November.
There's more to the country than Dublin.

Do you honestly think that people can't make up their own minds about the absolute mess that is irish water?
They never thought it would be questioned, but it was and that lead on to other messes being questioned.

People have had enough.

Eugene Norman

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Is having to obey the law such a hardship for people ? All they have to do is sit on their hole in a chair in front of the telly.

Im sure if a couple of lads stood in front and behind your car and decided they didn't want you to go to work youd have no issue with the Gardaí hauling them off? Would you be campaigning for their release if they kept doing it every morning despite the courts ordering them not too?

In general the law has never tried protestors for false imprisonment before. Since all protests can "trap" people it's a unique use of the legislation

Guy:Incognito

Eugene Norman wrote: »

In general the law has never tried protestors for false imprisonment before. Since all protests can "trap" people it's a unique use of the legislation

This has nothing to do with the people that were arrested last week. This is over the people that were jailed as a result of continuously breaking court orders to stay 20m away from meter installers that were working because they were interfering with them.

They were warned over and over in various court appearances and they kept disobeying.

weldoninhio

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

FYP

6 Gardai to arrest Paul Murphy TD, for blocking a car.

Appointment made with former FF councillor on charges, that he pleaded guilty to, of soliciting murder to turn up at a Garda station of his own volition.

Why anyone thinks the IW arrests are political is beyond me.

Bongalongherb

mynamejeff wrote: »

Just saw that protest on the news
the people there all seem to be the same social parasites and self promoting blowhards,

the anti water movement would have a lot more credibility if it wasnt being over taken by the same old bandwagon jumpers .

im anti water charges but im more anti those people , and i think thats a stance that a lot of people hold

Negative.

It's not a stance that a lot of people hold, it's more likely a stance that a lot of people hold here on this forum only, as there is a bigger place out there that resides outside of a forum, and as such, most folk would disagree with you.

Whosthis

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

This has nothing to do with the people that were arrested last week. This is over the people that were jailed as a result of continuously breaking court orders to stay 20m away from meter installers that were working because they were interfering with them.

They were warned over and over in various court appearances and they kept disobeying.

Ooh matron!!!

Dog of Tears

Chucken wrote: »

If you stop for just ONE second and think...!
Paul Murphy speaks at rallies in DUBLIN. I've never heard him speak and as I've said on here already, I never heard of him until last November.
There's more to the country than Dublin.

Do you honestly think that people can't make up their own minds about the absolute mess that is irish water?
They never thought it would be questioned, but it was and that lead on to other messes being questioned.

People have had enough.

Have you been drinking or something?

Nonsense post.

Guy:Incognito

weldoninhio wrote: »

6 Gardai to arrest Paul Murphy TD, for blocking a car.

Appointment made with former FF councillor on charges, that he pleaded guilty to, of soliciting murder to turn up at a Garda station of his own volition.

Why anyone thinks the IW arrests are political is beyond me.

There was a detailed explanation put out in one of the other threads about this, but the "OMG 6 Gardaí brutalised Paul Murphy " version works better for the cause. 2 of the 6 were high ranking Gardaí attending as a courtesy to him. To get the 2 members to and from the house requires a car with a driver (and the other Gard that would be in the car) plus the car to take Paul Murphy to the station hat also has 2 Gardaí in it.

Chucken

Dog of Tears wrote: »

Have you been drinking or something?

Nonsense post.

No I havent actually. Whats nonsense about it?

ezra_pound

Chucken wrote: »

If you stop for just ONE second and think...!
Paul Murphy speaks at rallies in DUBLIN. I've never heard him speak and as I've said on here already, I never heard of him until last November.
There's more to the country than Dublin.

Do you honestly think that people can't make up their own minds about the absolute mess that is irish water?
They never thought it would be questioned, but it was and that lead on to other messes being questioned.

People have had enough.

The people have spoken.

Irish water has been questioned.
The messes shall be queried.

Light shall come to darkness and from darkness light.

And it was then revealed unto the people:

The land beyond the pale too would bring forth milk and honey. Look not only within the pale where He speaks, but beyond.

Dog of Tears

Chucken wrote: »

No I havent actually. Whats nonsense about it?

First sentence 'weird'.

Next three completely irrelevant.

Rhetorical question.

Garbled penultimate sentence.

Meaningless slogan to close.

weldoninhio

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

These cases have been going on since long before Paul Murphy came across the phrase political policing after he was arrested.

How long should they be allowed to prevent people from working because they feel like it? Can I do that to you?

"2003: Labour Party members in anti-war sit down protest at Shannon including blocking of a Gardai van" - can't find any record of arrests for the false imprisonment of the Gardai.

"20 Jan 2015: Taxi drivers are to hold a “drive-through” protest in Dublin city centre from 2pm today (Tuesday)." - no record of any arrests at this.

"20 Oct 2014: Traffic was severely disrupted around Dublin’s East Wall and the Dublin Port Tunnel this morning due to a tax protest by lorry drivers.
The drivers blocked the southbound tunnel with lorries at about 6am, but these were moved shortly after 8.30am and the tunnel has reopened." - protest planned during Rush Hour, preventing people from going about their daily work. Zero arrests.

But the IW arrests are non-political, you have to understand.

Pinch Flat

catallus wrote: »

The U.N. might disagree with you on that:

http://www.un.org/waterforlifedecade/human_right_to_water.shtml

http://www.un.org/es/comun/docs/?symbol=A/RES/64/292&lang=E



But by all means, keep making things up and repressing me if it makes you feel good

The UN also enshrines the right to housing as a human right.

Here's me like an eejit paying thousands annually on my mortgage.

Bongalongherb

Chucken wrote: »

No I havent actually. Whats nonsense about it?

Someone is just lazily trying to discredit your post, whatever their agenda is.

dxhound2005

weldoninhio wrote: »

6 Gardai to arrest Paul Murphy TD, for blocking a car.

Appointment made with former FF councillor on charges, that he pleaded guilty to, of soliciting murder to turn up at a Garda station of his own volition.

Why anyone thinks the IW arrests are political is beyond me.

If the Gardai had made an appointment with Murphy for his arrest he would have organised for the usual retinue of amateur lawyers to advise the Gardai on the law to be in attendance. Along with the citizen film crews to record proceedings for YouTube. And assorted IRA and Eirigi elements would have turned up as well. Same for all the others who got an early morning visit.

The Gardai don't need that sort of hassle if it can be avoided.

weldoninhio

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

There was a detailed explanation put out in one of the other threads about this, but the "OMG 6 Gardaí brutalised Paul Murphy " version works better for the cause. 2 of the 6 were high ranking Gardaí attending as a courtesy to him. To get the 2 members to and from the house requires a car with a driver (and the other Gard that would be in the car) plus the car to take Paul Murphy to the station hat also has 2 Gardaí in it.

I never used the word brutalised. It doesn't matter if it's 6 superintendents, or 6 Templemore graduates. It's a huge waste of manpower.

ezra_pound

Pinch Flat wrote: »

The UN also enshrines the right to housing as a human right.

Here's me like an eejit paying thousands annually on my mortgage.

^ Top

Article 13.

(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.
(2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

Free return flights to Barbados baby.

Chucken

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Someone is just lazily trying to discredit your post, whatever their agenda is.

Hmmm. I wonder what it could be?

weldoninhio

dxhound2005 wrote: »

If the Gardai had made an appointment with Murphy for his arrest he would have organised for the usual retinue of amateur lawyers to advise the Gardai on the law to be in attendance. Along with the citizen film crews to record proceedings for YouTube. And assorted IRA and Eirigi elements would have turned up as well. Same for all the others who got an early morning visit.

The Gardai don't need that sort of hassle if it can be avoided.

Or 2 Gardai could have turned up and arrested him. I can't see him being a high risk arrest.

ezra_pound

Article 24.

Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.


Free gym cinema and spa treatments.

Pinch Flat

Jayney with all these human rights being abused - Im going straight into the bank manager and telling him I'm no longer paying for my mortgage due to human right abuses - then into falcon travel and dancing a free holiday in accordance with un charter

weldoninhio

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Jayney with all these human rights being abused - Im going straight into the bank manager and telling him I'm no longer paying for my mortgage due to human right abuses - then into falcon travel and dancing a free holiday in accordance with un charter

You also have the right to remain silent.

Chucken

ezra_pound wrote: »

Free gym cinema and spa treatments.

For iw staff.

cruasder777

Pocoyo wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205138761722135

I despise these rabble raisers and layabouts who latch onto causes to cause trouble.


People should pay for water services, the sewers are falling apart, the water quality terrible and sewage plants inadequate.


Investment is needed to put it right.

Bongalongherb

weldoninhio wrote: »

Or 2 Gardai could have turned up and arrested him. I can't see him being a high risk arrest.

Why would you need more than 'one' Garda for a well known law abiding citizen like this ?...

Because some individual/individuals within FG and/or Labour most likely gave the green card to try and dismantle and discredit this man and ordinary Irish citizens from protesting. It's all back-firing on the government now and also RTE.