A political message to the people of Eire!

Guy:Incognito

Chucken wrote: »

For iw staff.

When google do it they are forward thinking and so great for looking after staff. Healthy , happy staff are productive etc. Company we want as many excuses as possible to give out about do its a disgrace,:rolleyes:

Chucken

cruasder777 wrote: »

I despise these rabble raisers and layabouts who latch onto causes to cause trouble.


People should pay for water services, the sewers are falling apart, the water quality terrible and sewage plants inadequate.


Investment is needed to put it right.

Is it 500 million they've thrown at iw so far?
That would have gone a long way towards solving the problems.

Bongalongherb

cruasder777 wrote: »

I despise these rabble raisers and layabouts who latch onto causes to cause trouble.


People should pay for water services, the sewers are falling apart, the water quality terrible and sewage plants inadequate.


Investment is needed to put it right.

How many times do you honestly think we should pay for our Irish water ? Do you drive ? Do you like paying for it 3 times over ? Do you have a necessary knowledge of common-sense ?.

Chucken

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

When google do it they are forward thinking and so great for looking after staff. Healthy , happy staff are productive etc. Company we want as many excuses as possible to give out about do its a disgrace,:rolleyes:

Google aren't asking me to fund it though..are they?

Edit: I should say TELLING ME TO FUND IT

jimgoose

cruasder777 wrote: »

I despise these rabble raisers and layabouts who latch onto causes to cause trouble.


People should pay for water services, the sewers are falling apart, the water quality terrible and sewage plants inadequate.


Investment is needed to put it right.

Does it ever get sore, with Angela Merkel's fist rammed up it?

Guy:Incognito

Chucken wrote: »

Is it 500 million they've thrown at iw so far?
That would have gone a long way towards solving the problems.

and the rest can just come from more and more tax increases , yeah? Sure why not. Cant have people that don't pay tax paying for stuff.

All the giving out abut rich people avoiding paying their share of tax, well they cant avoid a utility bill..........

Joe prim

Chucken wrote: »

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Shirley all the other chuckens around the yard will speak up for ya,or chirp up, or cluck up.......?dem chuckens are big on solidarity, and speaking out ....

Guy:Incognito

Chucken wrote: »

Google aren't asking me to fund it though..are they?

Edit: I should say TELLING ME TO FUND IT

Do you not want the employees your funding to be as productive as possible?

Either way, the gym thing really is a ridicules thing for people to be going on about.It s barrel scraping.

weldoninhio

Bongalongherb wrote: »

Why would you need more than 'one' Garda for a well known law abiding citizen like this ?...

Because some individual/individuals within FG and/or Labour most likely gave the green card to try and dismantle and discredit this man and ordinary Irish citizens from protesting. It's all back-firing on the government now and also RTE.

Having never been arrested, I would presume that executing a warrant would require at least 2 Gardai. If for no other reason than to have a witness to the arrest.

Chucken

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Do you not want the employees your funding to be as productive as possible?

Either way, the gym thing really is a ridicules thing for people to be going on about.It s barrel scraping.

I'm not funding it.

washman3

cruasder777 wrote: »

I despise these rabble raisers and layabouts who latch onto causes to cause trouble.


People should pay for water services, the sewers are falling apart, the water quality terrible and sewage plants inadequate.


Investment is needed to put it right.

So, you had a good night in Castlebar tonight then.??
Was the champagne to your liking.?
When is the next Blueshirt knees-up..??

crusier

Murphy knows nothing about not being able to make ends meat or pay bills, he's a silver spoon kid with a loud mouth leading a pack of wasters who are only used to receiving payments from the state rather than having to contribute!

Dan_Solo

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

There was a detailed explanation put out in one of the other threads about this, but the "OMG 6 Gardaí brutalised Paul Murphy " version works better for the cause. 2 of the 6 were high ranking Gardaí attending as a courtesy to him. To get the 2 members to and from the house requires a car with a driver (and the other Gard that would be in the car) plus the car to take Paul Murphy to the station hat also has 2 Gardaí in it.

You're having a laugh. Can't these "high ranking Gardaí" drive themselves or make the arrest? They need effin' chauffeurs?
What do you mean by "courtesy"? Is that a codeword for "so the lads wouldn't kick the ****e out of him"?

weldoninhio

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

and the rest can just come from more and more tax increases , yeah? Sure why not. Cant have people that don't pay tax paying for stuff.

All the giving out abut rich people avoiding paying their share of tax, well they cant avoid a utility bill..........

How much was paid back to UNSECURED bond holders by this govt?? That would have put a bid dent in the bill.

Guy:Incognito

Chucken wrote: »

I'm not funding it.

It was you that declared they were TELLING YOU TO FUND IT

AlanS181824

What an annoying man lol

Guy:Incognito

weldoninhio wrote: »

How much was paid back to UNSECURED bond holders by this govt?? That would have put a bid dent in the bill.

How MANY bonds HAVE we SOLD because we're a good risk SINCE, raising MONEY because we're a GOOD bet.

Chucken

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

It was you that declared they were TELLING YOU TO FUND IT

Isnt that what they're trying to do? Well its not working.

weldoninhio

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

How MANY bonds HAVE we SOLD because we're a good risk SINCE, raising MONEY because we're a GOOD bet.

Ah yeah, we are a great BET. Play the market, LOSE, and still get PAID.

Guy:Incognito

Dan_Solo wrote: »

You're having a laugh. Can't these "high ranking Gardaí" drive themselves or make the arrest? They need effin' chauffeurs?
What do you mean by "courtesy"? Is that a codeword for "so the lads wouldn't kick the ****e out of him"?

Well if they hadn't gone, then it would have only been 2 and he'd have lost a headline. So they did him a favour. You seem to be flip flopping your focus on these issues. What difference does it make whether it was 1,2, 4 or 6 anyway?

Guy:Incognito

weldoninhio wrote: »

Ah yeah, we are a great BET. Play the market, LOSE, and still get PAID.

Do you think we'd be better off if our bonds were junk that no one wanted?

cruasder777

Bongalongherb wrote: »

How many times do you honestly think we should pay for our Irish water ? Do you drive ? Do you like paying for it 3 times over ? Do you have a necessary knowledge of common-sense ?.

Water services cost billions, most people have no problem paying for sky tv and beer.

Its about priorities.

People should pay for water services like in most other countries.

Its obvious these left wing rabble rousers have an agenda to cause trouble and destroy the country.


And while Im at it public sector workers like teachers should have to do with three weeks hols a yr not 15 and retire at 65. Im sick of freeloaders.

Make people do community service for their dole.

Pay their way like I have too, last year I had no hols, Im self employed, I live in the real world, but I can hold my head high, Im not a freeloader.

weldoninhio

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Do you think we'd be better off if our bonds were junk that no one wanted?

Why, and on what planet, would our bonds be junk??

weldoninhio

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Well if they hadn't gone, then it would have only been 2 and he'd have lost a headline. So they did him a favour. You seem to be flip flopping your focus on these issues. What difference does it make whether it was 1,2, 4 or 6 anyway?

Have you had to call the police recently??

Guy:Incognito

weldoninhio wrote: »

Why, and on what planet, would our bonds be junk??

If your mate kept borrowing money and not being able to pay you back, is he a good bet when he comes to you for a loan of 2 grand to buy a new car?

Dan_Solo

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Well if they hadn't gone, then it would have only been 2 and he'd have lost a headline. So they did him a favour. You seem to be flip flopping your focus on these issues. What difference does it make whether it was 1,2, 4 or 6 anyway?

Ah right, so FG ordered AGS to send 6 Gardaí as a favour to Murphy to help him to publicise his case?
You've talked yourself into an absolute hilarious mess with this nonsense.

Savage93

Pocoyo wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205138761722135

Simple solution to all these hairyholes,
1. Impeach that cnut for being a public representative and telling people to break the law, conduct likely to lead to a breach of the peace etc. etc. etc
2.Get details of ALL protestors at ALL protests and stop their dole/social welfare/single parents/disability/ whatever the fcuk state payment they are living on because they couldn't be bothered their collective or singular hairy holes getting a job AND DOCK payments for that day and all days protesting.
3. Never mind creating martyrs with jail sentences, fines of €3,000 taken from the above payments ( not €5 p.w., full payments stopped until fine paid.)
4. Give them free water, the next day they block traffic/commuters going about their lawful business get the PUBLIC ORDER UNIT to **** them into the Liffey.

cruasder777

Note the terrorist supporters standing behind him.


They want Ireland to be a communist state with them in charge.

See what rights there would be then.

Guy:Incognito

cruasder777 wrote: »

People should pay for water services like in most other countries.

Its obvious these left wing rabble rousers have an agenda to cause trouble and destroy the country..

Just doing quick calculations for people that want the payments for water to come from a single source, maintaining the same inadequate level of funding at €1.3b , split among the iirc 1.7nm households, that's roughly a €765 bill for every house. That's what you need to pay, minimum. and you'll still have the same **** , crumbling system we have now.


BTW folks, your not paying for it 3 times. Your paying the same amount, split from different sources.

weldoninhio

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If your mate kept borrowing money and not being able to pay you back, is he a good bet when he comes to you for a loan of 2 grand to buy a new car?

We aren't talking about mates, we are talking about countries who bought high risk bonds, with no security. They are high risk for a reason. That's why they are unsecured.

If I put a bet on at 10/1 with paddy power, and it loses, my opinion or perception of Paddy Power doesn't change because they don't give my stake back.

I 100% understand paying back secured bond holders. But unsecured is money we don't have going to people we don't need to pay back,

Guy:Incognito

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Ah right, so FG ordered AGS to send 6 Gardaí as a favour to Murphy to help him to publicise his case?
You've talked yourself into an absolute hilarious mess with this nonsense.

I havnt talked myself in to anything, I explained the situation as I was aware, The subsequent posts were showing the ridiculousness of ranting about it. They sent a Superintendent, it happened, everyone needs to move on.

Chucken

Savage93 wrote: »

Simple solution to all these hairyholes,
1. Impeach that cnut for being a public representative and telling people to break the law, conduct likely to lead to a breach of the peace etc. etc. etc
2.Get details of ALL protestors at ALL protests and stop their dole/social welfare/single parents/disability/ whatever the fcuk state payment they are living on because they couldn't be bothered their collective or singular hairy holes getting a job AND DOCK payments for that day and all days protesting.
3. Never mind creating martyrs with jail sentences, fines of €3,000 taken from the above payments ( not €5 p.w., full payments stopped until fine paid.)
4. Give them free water, the next day they block traffic/commuters going about their lawful business get the PUBLIC ORDER UNIT to **** them into the Liffey.

So you want to get rid of a democratic society?

cruasder777

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Just doing quick calculations for people that want the payments for water to come from a single source, maintaining the same inadequate level of funding at €1.3b , split among the iirc 1.7nm households, that's roughly a €765 bill for every house. That's what you need to pay, minimum. and you'll still have the same **** , crumbling system we have now.


BTW folks, your not paying for it 3 times. Your paying the same amount, split from different sources.

...Which is far less then they spend in the pub and on sky tv.

More responsible people like the Swiss, Japs would take responsibility for what they needed to pay, but then they dont whine and waste their money in the pub.

The problem is not the water rates, its the Irish people having no self discipline to manage their money. Look at the Celtic tiger.

Guy:Incognito

weldoninhio wrote: »

We aren't talking about mates, we are talking about countries who bought high risk bonds, with no security. They are high risk for a reason. That's why they are unsecured.

If I put a bet on at 10/1 with paddy power, and it loses, my opinion or perception of Paddy Power doesn't change because they don't give my stake back.

I 100% understand paying back secured bond holders. But unsecured is money we don't have going to people we don't need to pay back,

A decision was made, rightly or wrongly, and we move on.Unless you can pull a time machine out of your arse its not something that can be changed. The tax base needs to be widened and the country needs to stop running a deficit because its more expensive to borrow than to have the money.

Bongalongherb

cruasder777 wrote: »

Water services cost billions, most people have no problem paying for sky tv and beer.

Its about priorities.

People should pay for water services like in most other countries.

Its obvious these left wing rabble rousers have an agenda to cause trouble and destroy the country.


And while Im at it public sector workers like teachers should have to do with three weeks hols a yr not 15 and retire at 65. Im sick of freeloaders.

Make people do community service for their dole.

Pay their way like I have too, last year I had no hols, Im self employed, I live in the real world, but I can hold my head high, Im not a freeloader.

You just simply fail to acknowledge what I previously said in regards to... we already pay for it, three times already.

Do you drive a vehicle ? Do you even pay taxes ?. It's simply easy to explain it in lay-man's terms, but you do not understand basic layman's terms so I'll leave it there with you.

Chucken

cruasder777 wrote: »

...Which is far less then they spend in the pub and on sky tv.

More responsible people like the Swiss, Japs would take responsibility for what they need to pay, but then they dont whine and waste their money in the pub.

Were you in the pub tonight? :rolleyes:

weldoninhio

Savage93 wrote: »

Simple solution to all these hairyholes,
1. Impeach that cnut for being a public representative and telling people to break the law, conduct likely to lead to a breach of the peace etc. etc. etc
2.Get details of ALL protestors at ALL protests and stop their dole/social welfare/single parents/disability/ whatever the fcuk state payment they are living on because they couldn't be bothered their collective or singular hairy holes getting a job AND DOCK payments for that day and all days protesting.
3. Never mind creating martyrs with jail sentences, fines of €3,000 taken from the above payments ( not €5 p.w., full payments stopped until fine paid.)
4. Give them free water, the next day they block traffic/commuters going about their lawful business get the PUBLIC ORDER UNIT to **** them into the Liffey.

And they should have just f'ked Rosa Parks off the bus, executed the Guilford 4 and thrown away the key with Mandela.

Dan_Solo

Savage93 wrote: »

Simple solution to all these hairyholes,
1. Impeach that cnut for being a public representative and telling people to break the law

We don't do this for elected officials who break the law personally, so it'd be a bit of a stretch.

Dan_Solo

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I havnt talked myself in to anything, I explained the situation as I was aware, The subsequent posts were showing the ridiculousness of ranting about it. They sent a Superintendent, it happened, everyone needs to move on.

Yes, you "explained" they sent 6 cops specifically so Murphy could claim he was being victimised. While simultaneously claiming 6 was a completely normal number to send anyway.
Brilliant stuff.

cruasder777

Chucken wrote: »

Were you in the pub tonight? :rolleyes:

I used to own a hotel, the Swiss, German tourists would be in bed by 10pm, not a sound from them.

The Irish would roll in drunk at 2am and not be able to get out of bed for breakfast.

Its reflects on many levels, inc not wanting to pay their way for services.

sozbox

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If your mate kept borrowing money and not being able to pay you back, is he a good bet when he comes to you for a loan of 2 grand to buy a new car?

The market isn't made up of one individual so this doesn't apply.

Guy:Incognito

Bongalongherb wrote: »

we already pay for it, three times already. .

No we don't. We pay for it once. One amount. Its just taken from multiple sources.
The country is running a €5B deficit. So tax cuts shouldn't be looked at. If you pay the full amount of current spending from one source, as outlined above, €765 per household, per year .Without meters everyone pays the same too. So a guy in a one bed apartment pays the same as a family in a mansion in Killiney. That doesn't sound a very fair system.That still means we're running a €4b deficit.

Taxes can be cut when we are running a surplus, as they were in the past.

Bongalongherb

Savage93 wrote: »

Simple solution to all these hairyholes,
1. Impeach that cnut for being a public representative and telling people to break the law, conduct likely to lead to a breach of the peace etc. etc. etc
2.Get details of ALL protestors at ALL protests and stop their dole/social welfare/single parents/disability/ whatever the fcuk state payment they are living on because they couldn't be bothered their collective or singular hairy holes getting a job AND DOCK payments for that day and all days protesting.
3. Never mind creating martyrs with jail sentences, fines of €3,000 taken from the above payments ( not €5 p.w., full payments stopped until fine paid.)
4. Give them free water, the next day they block traffic/commuters going about their lawful business get the PUBLIC ORDER UNIT to **** them into the Liffey.

Your Boards.ie handle explains it all. Another angry person that has absolutely no respect for his/her own citizens constitutional right to lawfully protest.

Lovely colourful language by the way regarding these working class folk.

weldoninhio

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

A decision was made, rightly or wrongly, and we move on.Unless you can pull a time machine out of your arse its not something that can be changed. The tax base needs to be widened and the country needs to stop running a deficit because its more expensive to borrow than to have the money.

"If your mate kept borrowing money and not being able to pay you back, is he a good bet when he comes to you for a loan of 2 grand to buy a new car?" - So this was bull sh1t??

Chucken

cruasder777 wrote: »

I used to own a hotel, the Swiss, German tourists would be in bed by 10pm, not a sound from them.

The Irish would roll in drunk at 2am and not be able to get out of bed for breakfast.

Its reflects on many levels, inc not wanting to pay their way for services.

It does? Oh please enlighten us.
Maybe they didnt want your breakfast.

weldoninhio

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

No we don't. We pay for it once. One amount. Its just taken from multiple sources.
The country is running a €5B deficit. So tax cuts shouldn't be looked at. If you pay the full amount of current spending from one source, as outlined above, €765 per household, per year .Without meters everyone pays the same too. So a guy in a one bed apartment pays the same as a family in a mansion in Killiney. That doesn't sound a very fair system.That still means we're running a €4b deficit.

Taxes can be cut when we are running a surplus, as they were in the past.

Irish water has cost 1.5bn so far from conservative estimates, €800m on foreign aid is 2bn saved.

Guy:Incognito

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Yes, you "explained" they sent 6 cops specifically so Murphy could claim he was being victimised. While simultaneously claiming 6 was a completely normal number to send anyway.
Brilliant stuff.

No I didn't .Maybe I need to start using smilies to explain when I'm being flippant or sarcastic, for the slow to catch on.

cruasder777

Chucken wrote: »

It does? Oh please enlighten us.
Maybe they didnt want your breakfast.

This not wanting to pay for essential services and feeling its your right to have them, yet having no problem wasting money on beer, fags and sky tv shows the lack of discipline in Irish culture. It reflects in anti social behavior too.

Dan_Solo

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

No I didn't .Maybe I need to start using smilies to explain when I'm being flippant or sarcastic, for the slow to catch on.

Yeah, but there's no way to tell your "sarcasm" from your plain old nonsense TBH. Go for the smilies then if ya like.
So why did they send six cops then? You have drivel answers, do you have a real one?

weldoninhio

cruasder777 wrote: »

This not wanting to pay for essential services and feeling its your right to have them, yet having no problem wasting money on beer, fags and sky tv shows the lack of discipline in Irish culture. It reflects in anti social behavior too.

Whatever about Sky. If the irish decided not to smoke or drink, tax would plummet. You do realise excise etc make up a huge percentage of the tax take. That why cigarettes aren't €20 a pack. Nothing to do with health, all about balancing the tax take.