GAA people = Cavemen?

DoYouEvenLift

conorh91 wrote: »

How many other team members walked away on that day, and how many stayed?

I assume a majority walked off the pitch with you, did they?

Has the club ever failed to field a team?

Why would other players walk off when it was between me and the manager lol? What do you think it was like, an inspirational American football movie?


And yes, the club has failed to have a full team a few times in the last couple of years as the standard of the club has really taken a hit over the last few years, it was when that started that I started wanting out and the issue with the manager was the boiling point.

Lovely Bloke

Karl Stein wrote: »

You shouldn't infect a child with your own neurotic prejudices. Let's hope he/she doesn't disappoint you and becomes a successful GAA sportsman/woman.

That Charlie Hebdo image doesn't suit your Talibanesque attitude.

ok.

Thanks for the parenting tips. How many children have you successfully raised?

Taliban, gahliban. All the same. Don't like outsiders and punish those who do.

Hulk Hands

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

it's what people call it in Dublin - not an insult, not a joke, just a word.

It's just called "the gah", it's not disparaging, it's not meant to be, it's just a word, so stop getting worked up

Understandable as its an abbreviation in a spoken sense. However it literally takes more effort to write 'gah' as opposed to gaa so why bother?

conorh91

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

Why would other players walk off when it was between me and the manager lol?

Well it suggests your 'issue' was not shared by the members of the team.

like I said, maybe you're more suited to an individual sport.

Lovely Bloke

Hulk Hands wrote: »

so why bother?

I type as I talk, seriously, stop getting so worked up about it. It's a word on the internet that people say in real life.

If you are insulted by it, or find offence in it then there's something up.

Lovely Bloke

conorh91 wrote: »

Well it suggests your 'issue' was not shared by the members of the team.

So? Should everyone have the same opinions or toe a party line?

If it wasn't for people who stood up for what they believed in the "GAA" wouldn't exist.

conorh91

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

So? Should everyone have the same opinions or toe a party line?

Cricket Ireland are no weaker than the GAA when it comes to team dicipline.

Of course discipline matters. Of course everyone should be pushing together.

DoYouEvenLift

conorh91 wrote: »

Well it suggests your 'issue' was not shared by the members of the team.

like I said, maybe you're more suited to an individual sport.

My issue was that I personally didn't want to play for the club anymore lmao, why would I expect anyone else on the team to share my 'issue' and instantly join me in leaving while they were at training?

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

So? Should everyone have the same opinions or toe a party line?

If it wasn't for people who stood up for what they believed in the "GAA" wouldn't exist.

He's confusing real life sports with Any Given Sunday I think.

HamsterFace

It's a game.

People make friends and help out friends,

Put the two together, it's human nature.

conorh91

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

My issue was that I personally didn't want to play for the club anymore lmao

Well, what you actually said was that you disagreed with something he said.

You said that he then "lost his mind", and went "on a huge rant".

You said that you next "got up and walked straight past him", and you left the field.

My simple observation is that your team-mates all stayed behind, and seem to have sided with the team and their manager.

You were alone, no?

Karl Stein

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Taliban, gahliban. All the same. Don't like outsiders and punish those who do.

Yet here you are proudly pontificating about your intention to indoctrinate your kids for/against particular sports because of your own prejudices?

Have you considered a career as a Mad Mullah, Rabid Rabbi or Pushy Priest?

DoYouEvenLift

conorh91 wrote: »

Well, what you actually said was that you disagreed with something he said.

You said that he then "lost his mind", and went "on a huge rant".

You said that you next "got up and walked straight past him", and you left the field.

My simple observation is that your team-mates all stayed behind, and seem to have sided with the team and their manager.

You were alone, no?

How many times must I explain that I left myself lmao

c_man

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Taliban, gahliban. All the same. Don't like outsiders and punish those who do.

Gotta keep this one for the next "Is boards representative of Irish society?" thread.

Lovely Bloke

^^ love the way this guy, without any knowledge whatsoever of the circumstances, is doing the typical gah-head thing.

"gah was right, guy who dissed gah was wrong"

To the extend of making up scenarios in his head.

It must be weird to be so indoctrinated, so ingrained, so brainwashed in the culture.

Lovely Bloke

Karl Stein wrote: »

Yet here you are proudly pontificating about your intention to indoctrinate your kids for/against particular sports because of your own prejudices?

Have you considered a career as a Mad Mullah, Rabid Rabbi or Pushy Priest?

Again, thanks for the parenting tips Dr Spock - how many kids have you raised again, you seem to have missed that one last time round.

c_man

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

It must be weird to be so indoctrinated, so ingrained, so brainwashed in the culture.

It has to be said, you're the only one on the thread who's outlined what they want their children to like and to completely avoid, if not actively hate for some reason...

Lovely Bloke

c_man wrote: »

It has to be said, you're the only one on the thread who's outlined what they want their children to like and to completely avoid, if not actively hate for some reason...

show me any parent who has wants and don't-wants for their kidd, or any parent who doesn't "encourage" their kids into certain activities or interests - so spare me the pontificating.

The gah-parents are actually worse than me.

Again, to everyone dishing out the parenting advice, it would be awesome if you could include your own parenting experience before telling me how to parent, thanks.

Karl Stein

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

typical gah-head thing.

"gah was right, guy who dissed gah was wrong"

Was that mean't for me? I have no personal connection with the GAA and have never played Gaelic sports at any level.

It must be weird to be so indoctrinated, so ingrained, so brainwashed in the culture.

Incredible mental gymnastics to label me 'indoctrinated' while proudly pontificating about your intention to purposefully indoctrinate children as regards their sporting preferences.

conorh91

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

I left myself

Precisely. Your protest was not shared.

Lovely Bloke

Still not answering my question Karl Stein? Wonder why that could be.

You've not a clue about what you are on about, so seeya pal, been nice chatting to you kid.

DoYouEvenLift

conorh91 wrote: »

Precisely. Your problem was your problem.

Hahaha, wanting to stop being involved with one's GAA club is a problem.

osarusan

conorh91 wrote: »

Precisely. Your protest was not shared.

You keep on about this point but it means nothing.

All the poster said is that he decided the manger was a dick so he walked off.

Karl Stein

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Again, thanks for the parenting tips Dr Spock

What do you mean by this?

how many kids have you raised again

There are two problems with this fallacious line:

1. The presumption that not having 'qualified' to contribute a sperm to an egg negates the validity of all views of the person who supposedly hasn't.

2. Those who have fertilised an egg suddenly become experts at parenting.

Are you feeling out of your depth yet?

conorh91

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

Hahaha, wanting to stop being involved with one's GAA club is a problem.

Not at all. I'm distinguishing between one person's problems, or tantrums, and a bigger issue of a squad's problem.

Smidge

Love the sport, have been a supporter all of my life(football not hurling, I'm not a total animal )
UNTIL I moved "down the country"

The parish politics and cliques far out weigh the sport down here. It really is who you know and what family you are. The families are militant and forget its a "sport".
Wouldn't let my kids near it due to the culture locally outside of the games.

DoYouEvenLift

conorh91 wrote: »

Not at all. I'm distinguishing between one person's problems, or tantrums, and a bigger issue of a squad's problem.

The funniest part of you thinking I was like some spoiled teenager having a tantrum and stomping out of there expecting my team to follow me is that you know literally nothing about the situation aside from me having a disagreement with my manager and leaving. The only reason I've continued replying to you is because I'm enjoying seeing how far your notions go, keep going and blindly defend a random GAA club if you'd like, I just hope you're not actually taking any of this as serious as you seem to be lol

Robsweezie

a little off topic but has anyone else noticed that GAA, hurling and Irish sports stars in general tend to have the personality of a dead fish?

pauliebdub

Cavemen? Not really. I enjoyed playing and think hurling in particular is a fantastic sport. I would agree that there is a lot of nepotism involved in selecting players and lads from.poorer backgrounds often wouldn't get a look in on account of the coaches desire for social climbing and getting on with the parish big shots. Which is a shame as it turned many off the sport.

Omackeral

Robsweezie wrote: »

a little off topic but has anyone else noticed that GAA, hurling and Irish sports stars in general tend to have the personality of a dead fish?

It's either that.......... or Conor McGregor.

Choose wisely Neo.

blade1

Chucken wrote: »

I'm not a guy
I'm an oldish lady, probably old enough to your grandmother...but I digress.

My grandsons will have a difficult time on the hurling pitch I'd say. Lets just say their surname isnt Irish.

Are you one of the Bin Ladens from Toomevarra?

DEFTLEFTHAND

They're great sports. I was raised with a father who hurled for our club and he passed it on to me so maybe I'd no choice but I still fell in love with the game. Where I grew up in north Tipp it was hurling all the way, I loved football too but it wasn't really encouraged, to this day our club's hurling and football sides don't operate under the same banner.

My dream as a child was to score a winning point for Tipp in an AI hurling final. The bould John O'Dwyer came within a hawkeye of doing this against those insufferable cats last September. He didn't do it though.

Irish Guitarist

Chucken wrote: »

Never in my life heard of anything called the queens game

It was their eighth studio album.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_%28Queen_album%29

WesternZulu

The overwhelming majority of GAA 'cavemen' follow other sports (and vise versa) so in affect you're calling all sports supporters 'cavemen'.

Are soccer fans 'cavemen' because Blatter has come out during the week saying that racism is natural, because Feyenoord fans went ape **** in Rome a few days ago?
Are rugby fans 'cavemen' because of South African rugby and their role in apartheid?

You may say that the rugby one isn't exactly recent but it's a hell of a lot more recent than what some people throw at the GAA.
OP you'd want to get that chip off your shoulder, the GAA are no better, or no worse than other sporting organisations.

wendell borton

sabat wrote: »

Garrison Games is the expression I've heard many times.

Of course you should never mention to GAA heads that their football is an entirely artificial construct, manufactured purely to be something that wasn't English. The effects of this back-of-an-envelope rulebook can still be seen today as it's almost impossible to dispossess an opposition player without fouling them.

A shoulder isn't a foul.

FURET

From a rural area where GAA is very important. Never liked it (or any other sport in fairness). But what I hate about GAA is the parochialism it engenders.

padd b1975

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

ok.

Thanks for the parenting tips. How many children have you successfully raised?

Taliban, gahliban. All the same. Don't like outsiders and punish those who do.

You're just embarrassing yourself at this stage....:o

anncoates

A local GAA club tried to kill off my football club with the full support of the county structure. They nearly did as well. And were on record as boasting that they would do it.

I've nothing against normal GAA supporters and volunteers, many of whom number my family and friends but I'll always hate that fcuking organization and dearly hope my kids will not want to play it. Each year something like Garth Brooks will come up to remind you of their true colours.

The Peanut

My dad played in an Ireland hurling final. Has won every club medal possible in Munster. He's still very actively involved in the GAA club at home. His siblings would be an extremely well known hurling family of their era.

He has also played rugby, soccer and boxed. I've never been driven to play any particular sport. I have, however, been strongly encouraged to okay sport for the health benefits, to understanding the concepts of winning/losing and for developing friendships.

There are many broad generalisations on this thread. I see issues with my local GAA club but I also see issues with the soccer club, the athletics team, etc. I stay out of the politics of the various codes and view my kids participation purely on the basis of what's good for the kids. I live in a rural area so at a young age, their participation far outways excluding them based on my own issues with the adults involved. Will review as they get older but I'd be hoping they'd make up their own minds, much as I did.

lufties

Anyone see that GAA ad with emigrants watching from different countries..Its totally cringe!

Mushy

My only experience of a clash between Gaelic football and the football team was when a new coach came in for the football team and said to the players that they'd be off the team should they play gaelic football.There are bitter minorities on both sides, they are better off ignored.

anncoates

The Peanut wrote: »

My dad played in an Ireland hurling final. Has won every club medal possible in Munster. He's still very actively involved in the GAA club at home. His siblings would be an extremely well known hurling family of their era.

He has also played rugby, soccer and boxed. I've never been driven to play any particular sport. I have, however, been strongly encouraged to okay sport for the health benefits, to understanding the concepts of winning/losing and for developing friendships.

There are many broad generalisations on this thread. I see issues with my local GAA club but I also see issues with the soccer club, the athletics team, etc. I stay out of the politics of the various codes and view my kids participation purely on the basis of what's good for the kids. I live in a rural area so at a young age, their participation far outways excluding them based on my own issues with the adults involved. Will review as they get older but I'd be hoping they'd make up their own minds, much as I did.

People involved with 'soccer' generally have a better sense of self criticism though. Many such people here would be very quick to trenchantly criticize the FAI or junior football structures in Ireland, perhaps too quickly sometimes.

On the other hand, if the aspects of cultural near-fascism, blatant funding disparities and political cronyism, expansionism (see Croke Park residents vs HQ profits) of the GAA is brought up, even reasonable supporters will instantly circle the wagons and start ranting

It's basically analogous to nationalism, perhaps unsurprisingly.

WesternZulu

It seems strange that people who hate the GAA often hold up the organisations ethos's as their main gripe and cannot disassociate the 2 GAA sports from the organisation itself.

Most soccer fans like myself have no great love for FIFA/FAI/FA but I don't let that stop me enjoying the sport.

AndonHandon

FURET wrote: »

From a rural area where GAA is very important. Never liked it (or any other sport in fairness). But what I hate about GAA is the parochialism it engenders.

This. How many Irish have emigrated to fantastically far away places like Australia and the Middle East only to set up their own GAA tribe (club), spend all their time hanging out together and marrying each other? It's a real attitude of "once we have each other we don't need anyone else".

Mushy

AndonHandon wrote: »

This. How many Irish have emigrated to fantastically far away places like Australia and the Middle East only to set up their own GAA tribe (club), spend all their time hanging out together and marrying each other? It's a real attitude of "once we have each other we don't need anyone else".

You're criticising people for setting up a club for a game they love when they're abroad when they may miss it? Bit harsh if you ask me.

WesternZulu

AndonHandon wrote: »

This. How many Irish have emigrated to fantastically far away places like Australia and the Middle East only to set up their own GAA tribe (club).

You do realise this is primarily how rugby and soccer spread initially?
What is so wrong with setting up clubs abroad anyway.

YFlyer

Robsweezie wrote: »

a little off topic but has anyone else noticed that GAA, hurling and Irish sports stars in general tend to have the personality of a dead fish?

Eamonn Coughlan isn't.

AndonHandon

Mushy wrote: »

You're criticising people for setting up a club for a game they love when they're abroad when they may miss it? Bit harsh if you ask me.

WesternZulu wrote: »

You do realise this is primarily how rugby and soccer spread initially?
What is so wrong with setting up clubs abroad anyway.

I'm not saying it's bad or wrong as it brings happiness to those involved but that it is parochialism and is a product of the embedded parochialism from the GAA culture in Ireland.

WesternZulu

AndonHandon wrote: »

I'm not saying it's bad or wrong as it brings happiness to those involved but that it is parochialism and is a product of the embedded parochialism from the GAA culture in Ireland.

People go on about parochialism and the GAA; isn't parochialism just a smaller version of the patriotism in which all sports thrive?

Nodin

AndonHandon wrote: »

I'm not saying it's bad or wrong as it brings happiness to those involved but that it is parochialism and is a product of the embedded parochialism from the GAA culture in Ireland.

...or people playing a sport they like wanting to continue playing a sport they like. It could be that.

AndonHandon

WesternZulu wrote: »

People go on about parochialism and the GAA; isn't parochialism just a smaller version of the patriotism in which all sports thrive?

Yes, it is. GAA isn't an international sport though so does not lend itself to patriotism the same way other sports do. Essentially the setting up and joining of a GAA club abroad is to create a bubble in which to isolate oneself from the foreign community within which one is supposedly engaged.