2015 World Cup Day 10 - England v Scotland

booth70 · 22-02-2015 1:24pm #1

England v Scotland
Christchurch
Group A

booth70 · 22-02-2015 1:27pm

This is it for England.....lose tomoro and they are almost on the runway home......

Hales in for Ballance is the only change they'll make I reckon

Agent J · 22-02-2015 1:33pm

What are Englands chances of wining this game?

Is there a situation where if England lose this Ireland could end up facing them in the quarters?

riffmongous · 22-02-2015 3:26pm

Here's hoping for another failure for Morgan, it mightn't be a popular opinion but I really dislike the guys attitude to Ireland.
Morgan snub for Ireland

Dan man · 22-02-2015 3:31pm

Agent J wrote: »

What are Englands chances of wining this game?

Is there a situation where if England lose this Ireland could end up facing them in the quarters?

Almost certainly not..... if England qualify they will probably finish in 3rd or 4th in the group meaning they will play one of the top 2 in Pool B (probably India or South Africa). And if England lose this they will do well to advance to the quarters at all.

Gillespy · 22-02-2015 8:49pm

riffmongous wrote: »

Here's hoping for another failure for Morgan, it mightn't be a popular opinion but I really dislike the guys attitude to Ireland.
Morgan snub for Ireland

If the ECB are okay with him missing the game, why aren't you? It's going to be a makeshift English team anyway so it doesn't matter one more is missing.

I want him to succeed and to start by getting a ton tonight. Can't be dealing with the anti-Morgan stuff.

booth70 · 22-02-2015 9:18pm

Gillespy wrote: »

If the ECB are okay with him missing the game, why aren't you? It's going to be a makeshift English team anyway so it doesn't matter one more is missing.

I want him to succeed and to start by getting a ton tonight. Can't be dealing with the anti-Morgan stuff.

Absolutely......he's paid per match at the IPL......so why would he bother with an Eng v Irl game if his own employer isn't bothered to send the first XI

Sooner or later every IPL player is going to put his franchise and the big bucks before country so all the boards need to put their collective heads together and create a window for all its contracted players to be available for the full duration of the IPL ...... Otherwise you will end up with a situation like the Eng v Irl game where the second string arrives to play an official match

riffmongous · 22-02-2015 9:19pm

Gillespy wrote: »

If the ECB are okay with him missing the game, why aren't you? It's going to be a makeshift English team anyway so it doesn't matter one more is missing.

I want him to succeed and to start by getting a ton tonight. Can't be dealing with the anti-Morgan stuff.

I don't even see why he need to be 'allowed' to continue playing in India, this is one of the most important games for cricket in Ireland and the fact that he is fine with devaluing it even further than the ECB with their selection policy says a lot about his attitude to Irish cricket, imo. It's nothing to do with him playing for England rather his attitude to Irish cricket that got him to where he is today

Gillespy · 22-02-2015 9:40pm

If he was in the test team he wouldn't be coming either. Morgan can't be eternally indebted to Irish cricket. He did his bit and out grew it. That's the reality of it. He's England captain now and playing in the IPL and that reflects well on Irish cricket too.

I'm just thankful there's an ODI with England. It's something to look forward to and any side they send will be a challenge, some really exciting players waiting to get in the first team. It was a weakened team last time too and they won remember.

riffmongous · 22-02-2015 10:03pm

I remember the game alright, their B team was ****e except for Bopara, Rankin and Morgan, it didn't do a whole lot for Ireland tbh, considering how we beat their full team the WC before that. I am more interested in what's directly good for Irish cricket than some indirect kudos we get from having our best players playing elsewhere.

KevIRL · 22-02-2015 10:33pm

Scotland win the toss and will bowl

the groutch · 22-02-2015 11:02pm

I think scotland have a decent chance here, were unlucky to lose 3 of their recognised batsmen lbw first ball against NZ, and took 7 wickets that day, so will be no pushover.

pelevin · 22-02-2015 11:04pm

If someone has an issue with or dislikes Morgan, that's fine, that's their own inner world, but I don't really agree with interjecting that bitterness or that whole issue into a thread on the England game. An unnecessary souring of the 'atmosphere' imo.
Though then otoh you could argue there probably won't be too much in the way of comments here otherwise!

KevIRL · 22-02-2015 11:10pm

10 ball over there, Davey making difficult work of it

pelevin · 22-02-2015 11:12pm

KevIRL wrote: »

10 ball over there, Davey making difficult work of it

THough at least a bit of a confidence booster for him with the last ball.

riffmongous · 22-02-2015 11:16pm

I wonder if the Scots would have been better off batting first here

the groutch · 22-02-2015 11:24pm

somebody just told Bell there that this isn't a test match

pelevin · 22-02-2015 11:39pm

Scotland seriously need some kind of pressure to start coming on England to expose the mental fragility that must be there. Think I'll give it a break for a while & see later if any sense of giant-killing has come alive - not that England at moment are exactly giants.

riffmongous · 23-02-2015 12:40am

Time to give up on this one I think, I thought the Scots would be more competitive than this

Borders no.2 · 23-02-2015 1:02am

Disappointing that Scotland couldn't make more of a fist of it after giving NZ a bit of a scare. After the performance of the associates so far this isn't helping how the associates are perceived. Hopefully they get a wicket or two soon or that score could get to embarrassing levels.

the groutch · 23-02-2015 1:27am

Ali gone. Knowing England they'll get skittled out for 240 now

Agent J · 23-02-2015 1:31am

the groutch wrote: »

Ali gone. Knowing England they'll get skittled out for 240 now

Well there's another wicket gone....

pelevin · 23-02-2015 1:35am

It's all happening!

Agent J · 23-02-2015 1:35am

And another... There's 4 gone now.

riffmongous · 23-02-2015 2:15am

Looks like he got him, great stumping

riffmongous · 23-02-2015 2:41am

Some catching practice here at the end

Scotland will be happy enough with that I guess considering how bad things were looking for the first half of the game, seems like a decent batting pitch, too many wides bowled though.

riffmongous · 23-02-2015 5:23am

Why are Scotland so consistently disappointing against the full members yet can challenge Ireland one on one?

Rjd2 · 23-02-2015 10:26am

One of the worst innnings of the world cup that from Ian Bell 54 off 85 balls? 2 fours, no sixes? ****e. :pac::mad:

Credit to Ali and Finn though, they were very good.

jayobray · 23-02-2015 10:39am

Rjd2 wrote: »

One of the worst innnings of the world cup that from Ian Bell 54 off 5 balls? 2 fours, no sixes? ****e. :pac::mad:

Credit to Ali and Finn though, they were very good.

54 off 5 balls? One of the great World Cup innings!

But disappointed with Scotland again.

Rjd2 · 23-02-2015 10:43am

Yeah Scotland were meh, some poor shots and very harmless bowling early on, makes our hammering against them more concerning then it already was.

Gillespy · 23-02-2015 4:07pm

Rjd2 wrote: »

One of the worst innnings of the world cup that from Ian Bell 54 off 85 balls? 2 fours, no sixes? ****e. :pac::mad:

Look at it in terms of the partnership. Take that opening stand everyday especially after being put in. Bell was out of sorts and wasn't able to kick on to correct his strike rate. He should be better for the time in the middle.

Scotland got away with it though, it was only Ali, Morgan and Butler that looked anyway fluent. Woeful bowling attack, shutter to think what Australia will do to it.

2015 World Cup Day 10 - England v Scotland

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