Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 Mod Note in OP 9/4

Alonso77

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

No its not.
Sakho and Skrtel also looked Sunday league at the start of this season and once Gerrard was injured/dropped their form turned around.

No, once sakho returned to defence after injury, the form turned for the better.

Charlie19

Johnson actually looks more comfortable than moreno.

Pyjamarama

garra wrote: »

3 central defenders and they nearly score from a header from ball played up through the middle. Dodgy.

We've only got two Central defenders... And tbh lovern barely counts.

J Mysterio

Id love to sell on Lovren. The club has to admit it made a mistake in him.... like with Andy Carroll.

Caovyn Lineah

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

That makes no sense at all. If Gerrard or any other midfielder is playing bad then the defense needs to be on top of their game. It's like blaming Mignolet for playing crap because Lovren is playing crap.

Come back when you have a clue about football and the role of a defensive midfielder.

Harry Palmr

Can 20
Moreno 22
Allen 25
Coutinho 22
Hendo 24
Sterling 20
Ibe 19

Kids! :eek:

mrsoundie

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Can 20
Moreno 22
Allen 25
Coutinho 22
Hendo 24
Sterling 20
Ibe 19

Kids! :eek:

And you can't win anything with kids!

Tipsy McSwagger

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Come back when you have a clue about football and the role of a defensive midfielder.

You're the one blaming how awful Lovren is on Gerrard.

J Mysterio

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Can 20
Moreno 22
Allen 25
Coutinho 22
Hendo 24
Sterling 20
Ibe 19

Kids! :eek:

Markovic 21
Flanagan 22
Sakho 25


Can't believe Balotelli is inly 24(?!)...Even Lucas is only 28!?

Agent Coulson

No wonder Sterling is pissed about wages when he sees players like Lovren, Balotelli, Lallana, Borini, Lambert, Enrique & Johnson all on double or more than him some are sick notes some never get picked some are just crap.


He plays week in week out and even if he wasn't as good as he is he deserves to be better paid then all of the above.

LuckyLloyd

MD1990 wrote: »

Pellegrini is an excellent European manager. Not his fault the signings he isn't involved with have been poor. Yes the Pl is way behind the top leagues tactically.

Well no, he isn't an 'excellent European manager' given his time with City. He's had a squad good enough. And again, where the PL is tactically should have no bearing on the tactics Pellegrini employs in European competition.

He's way underperformed in that sphere imo.

Caovyn Lineah

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

You're the one blaming how awful Lovren is on Gerrard.

Remember last season when Lovren was an excellent defender, arguably one of the best in the league? Why did he look so good?

If you can answer that then ill continue this conversation.

Pyjamarama

Agent Coulson wrote: »

No wonder Sterling is pissed about wages when he sees players like Lovren, Balotelli, Lallana, Borini, Lambert, Enrique & Johnson all on double or mre than him some are sick notes some never get picked some are just crap.


He plays week in week out and even if he wasn't as good as he is he deserves to be better paid then all of the above.

Pretty sure we'd have no real problem paying him more than all of them... Your point would be relevant if we were throwing a big low ball at him but we haven't. That being said of pay him whatever he wants.

Pyjamarama

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Remember last season when Lovren was an excellent defender, arguably one of the best in the league? Why did he look so good?

If you can answer that then ill continue this conversation.

You want him to say schneiderlin and wanyama but tbh it's as much confidence and also the fact that he really wasn't that good tbh.

Strongbow10

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Can 20
Moreno 22
Allen 25
Coutinho 22
Hendo 24
Sterling 20
Ibe 19

Kids! :eek:

its always a fact thrown out as some kind of indication of where the club will be in 5-10 years with these guys.

Fact of the matter is if any of them turn into top class players then we will ship them out for a big fee and reinvest again in 5-6 talented players in the hope of repeating the trick again.

Sterling and Coutinho won't be Liverpool players by their 25th birthday's. In Sterlings case he won't be here next September. And the sad thing is, the club would see no issue letting him go if the price was right.

Its not how a supposed "big club" goes about its business.

Caovyn Lineah

Pyjamarama wrote: »

You want him to say schneiderlin and wanyama but tbh it's as much confidence and also the fact that he really wasn't that good tbh.

I want him to say it because its the truth.

Just like he has looked a much better player this season when Lucas has been in front of him instead of Gerrard.

Tipsy McSwagger

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Remember last season when Lovren was an excellent defender, arguably one of the best in the league? Why did he look so good?

If you can answer that then ill continue this conversation.

Southampton have a way better defense than Liverpool and since Lovren left it has got even better.

LuckyLloyd

Lovren needs to play a lot better for a long stretch of time to justify that fee. He's now a dog to ever be worth the money for us. That's unfortunate but it's reality.

Caovyn Lineah

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Southampton have a way better defense than Liverpool and since Lovren left it has got even better.

So you failed to answer the question even though someone else gave you the answer. Enjoy the match.

Agent Coulson

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

That looked bad at first.

Utopia Parkway

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Southampton have a way better defense than Liverpool and since Lovren left it has got even better.

I think it's more the fact that Southampton play with two defensive midfielders that protected their back four really well.

Chesty08

Some of this football is actually comical it's that bad!!

Bloody hell awful stuff

Charlie19

100k you're having a laugh.

Pyjamarama

Chesty08 wrote: »

Some of this football is actually comical it's that bad!!

Bloody hell awful stuff

I think everyone bar the back four are doing well... But the back four... Eeewwwwe

LuckyLloyd

Underwhelming return from Ibe.

jesus_thats_gre

Lol, where has Borini come out of?

Tipsy McSwagger

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

I think it's more the fact that Southampton play with two defensive midfielders that protected their back four really well.

So playing 2 DMs makes Lovren a better player?

Caovyn Lineah

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

So playing 2 DMs makes Lovren a better player?

Oh wow, just give up. You are clueless.

J Mysterio

Fabio Borini.... 24

Devilman40k

NukaCola wrote: »

If Sturridge is on 150k is it any wonder Sterling wants 620k a week.

Be lucky to get £6.20 after that miss..

LuckyLloyd

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Lol, where has Borini come out of?

Well at least we have a striker on the pitch. Well...more like a forward. A forward that never scores. But still. :pac:

Tipsy McSwagger

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Oh wow, just give up. You are clueless.

No Gerrard tonight and Lovren has been garbage.

Utopia Parkway

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

So playing 2 DMs makes Lovren a better player?

Makes him look a better player than he is under a different system.

J Mysterio

Is Balotelli on the bench?

Agent Coulson

A forward with great movement just a pity he can't score goals.

Caovyn Lineah

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

No Gerrard tonight and Lovren has been garbage.

He should have given away a penalty and one wayward header. Johnson, Moreno and Can have been much worse defensively.

Pepp1989

When lovren has no time to think he is actually decent. Any time at all and he f*cks up.

Although I momentarily forgot about the stonewall peno Newcastle should've had. Puts paid to my theory.

Riesen_Meal

Glen Johnson lads - I have no words....

EDIT : other than them words, obviously...

Chesty08

Pyjamarama wrote: »

I think everyone bar the back four are doing well... But the back four... Eeewwwwe

Doing well... they should of put this game to bed long ago!

The lack of end product is so frustrating! I have to laugh!

Moreno gets away with murder, the guy is going backwards a a good steady rate

Chesty08

Chesty08 wrote: »

Doing well... they should of put this game to bed long ago!

The lack of end product is so frustrating! I have to laugh!

Why the need for the extra touch again? absolutely laughable it happens more often than not

jesus_thats_gre

Lol, had to happen. He technically created the chance for himself too with that touch before the corner

LuckyLloyd

Well a good win. I think we'd likely need to win all of our remaining games to even make it a sweat on the final day but good to plug the run of league losses anyway.

Newcastle are dreadful but that isn't our concern.

jcsoulinger

Soooooo happy for that guy.

klose

Strikers finish :pac:

LuckyLloyd

rarnes1 wrote: »

Moreno gets away with murder, the guy is going backwards a a good steady rate

He's not getting away with murder imo. His ineptitude has been called out on here. Some people just don't want to hear it because they're resolved to defending certain signings to the death for whatever reason.

klose

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Well a good win. I think we'd likely need to win all of our remaining games to even make it a sweat on the final day but good to plug the run of league losses anyway.

Newcastle are dreadful but that isn't our concern.

No better team to play at this time of the season than good ol newcastle

Pyjamarama

rarnes1 wrote: »

Moreno gets away with murder, the guy is going backwards a a good steady rate

He's been good going forward but when he does nobody covers left back... Not saying he's done well defensively but its not all on him.

Caovyn Lineah

Hard to pick a MOTM tonight between Lucas, Allen and Coutinho.

Pyjamarama

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Hard to pick a MOTM tonight between Lucas, Allen and Coutinho.

It's not really, it's Coutinho all day. The other two have done well tho. So has Jordan. And migd.