Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 Mod Note in OP 9/4

noodler

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

For the reasons I mentioned above?
You seem as though you want to just slate every signing for some reason.

Because the majority of the signings have been poor?

How did I miss the Suarez thread today.

Classic.

Some things never change in the SF

Caovyn Lineah

noodler wrote: »

Because the majority of the signings have been poor?

Someone above me said Skrtel and Sakho get a pass of sorts because they were new to the league and didn't speak English. Why do Moreno and Markovic not get the same treatment?

Jon Stark

Lovren still looked like a liability against an absolutely toothless side last night. It genuinely terrifies to think of what even just competent opposition will do to him.

Still can't get my head around how he's fared tbh, it's a fcuking mystery to me.

Caovyn Lineah

Jon Stark wrote: »

Lovren still looked like a liability against an absolutely toothless side last night. It genuinely terrifies to think of what even just competent opposition will do to him.

Still can't get my head around how he's fared tbh, it's a fcuking mystery to me.

No he didn't, he made one error which should have been a penalty and one poor header. He did nothing else wrong, I was watching his performance in particular.

Kerrigooney

I'm a lot more concerned about our ability to score goals than I am about our defenders atm.

Caovyn Lineah

Kerrigooney wrote: »

I'm a lot more concerned about our ability to score goals than I am about our defenders atm.

This is my exact feeling too. We've been fairly solid at the back since Christmas barring 2 games, scoring goals is a huge issue though.

Charlie19

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

No he didn't, he made one error which should have been a penalty and one poor header. He did nothing else wrong, I was watching his performance in particular.

Would you start him against Villa?

Caovyn Lineah

Charlie19 wrote: »

Would you start him against Villa?

Depending on formation. In a 3, yes. In a 2,depends on Skrtels fitness.

It makes no difference who plays anyway because none of our centre halves will be able to handle Benteke.

noodler

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Someone above me said Skrtel and Sakho get a pass of sorts because they were new to the league and didn't speak English. Why do Moreno and Markovic not get the same treatment?

Defensive howlers in Moreno's case, lack of end product in Markovic's and of course price tag for both.

More importantly, perhaps, is the argument they have potential for improvement. Lovren is older, more expensive for his position and should have been an instant improvement for the first XI.

Lots of hairsplitting there, I've seen something in Markovic but have massive Moreno doubts. The goals he has directly been responsible for were criminal.

Caovyn Lineah

Well obviously I'm fighting a losing battle here, let's just meet at this time next season and see who was right.

Jon Stark

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

No he didn't, he made one error which should have been a penalty and one poor header. He did nothing else wrong, I was watching his performance in particular.

Don't forget nearly injuring a team mate.

Caovyn Lineah

Jon Stark wrote: »

Don't forget nearly injuring a team mate.

You could just as easily blame Can for putting his foot where it was, neither of them called for the ball. If you are being serious, have a word with yourself.

Kerrigooney

Kerrigooney wrote: »

I'm a lot more concerned about our ability to score goals than I am about our defenders atm.

Yeah, same. Defense while not fantastic has been pretty pk the past 3/4 months.

Pyjamarama

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Well obviously I'm fighting a losing battle here, let's just meet at this time next season and see who was right.

You can be safe in the knowledge that we'll all be delighted if you are.

garra

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

For a while last night, I thought Johnsons first name was 'Poor control by'.

First half he started brightly enough, then got a bit tired and sloppy, then perked up again, etc. His second touch was a tackle for much of second half

DVDM93

We could buy Agger back six times and pay Kolo Toure's wages for a little over half a year given he was a free transfer for what we spent on Lovren. Let's do it!

garra

noodler wrote: »

Defensive howlers in Moreno's case, lack of end product in Markovic's and of course price tag for both.

More importantly, perhaps, is the argument they have potential for improvement. Lovren is older, more expensive for his position and should have been an instant improvement for the first XI.

Lots of hairsplitting there, I've seen something in Markovic but have massive Moreno doubts. The goals he has directly been responsible for were criminal.

Yeah they are both young and both have made mistakes but for me, Moreno is the one I can see holding a place in the side, has a bit of spark but needs work on his defending for sure. Markovic has to become more dynamic, a steeper ask than learning how to play the defensive side of a wing back role, imo

djPSB

marklazarcovic wrote: »

raheem's hand :eek::eek:surprised ibe hasnt become pregnant after that pic was takin:pac:

Cant believe they're drinking Fanta.

viper006

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

No he didn't, he made one error which should have been a penalty and one poor header. He did nothing else wrong, I was watching his performance in particular.

Not sure what game you were watching to be honest. He looked very jittery for 60mins at least. I lost count of the amount of aimless long balls he played over both halves when under zero pressure. Im talking rightly 20-30 yards off the intended attacking player he was aiming for a couple times. He gave away possession alot.

The peno call and bad header, either in isolation is bad enough but i am really shocked at how poor a signing he has being for us. I hope though when settled abit better next season we can depend on him more.

noodler

garra wrote: »

Yeah they are both young and both have made mistakes but for me, Moreno is the one I can see holding a place in the side, has a bit of spark but needs work on his defending for sure. Markovic has to become more dynamic, a steeper ask than learning how to play the defensive side of a wing back role, imo

I don't see Markovic as a wing back.

It was OK for this season but I can't see it long term, square peg - round hole for me.

Harry Palmr

For some players it doesn't rain it pours

Teixeira caught his studs in the turf and left the field with a leg in a temporary cast tonight Looks like ligament damage.



Obviously the prognosis isn't known yet but it could mess up his pre-season.

darced

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J Mysterio

****. It was all sunshine and lollipops with Teixera the other day

MD1990

Sounds really bad about Teixeira's injury. Its a shame he's done well this season & certaintly is a better prospect than Luis Alberto.

murpho999

Don't see how people can defend Lovren.

Was supposed to be the missing link in our defence that would tighten it up and improve our title hopes this season.

He's been a disaster and a very disappointing signing.

Can't understand how he has declined unless the pressure has just got to him.

People using language as an excuse is very poor. Plenty of players have played with little English and done well. Suarez and Torres spring to mind.

If you have the ability then you'll thrive . Learning English won't improve your game.

brevity

I suppose in a slight defence of Lovern, at Southampton he had two decent defensive midfielders in Schneiderln and Wanyama in front of him and decent full backs beside him. Fonte and Boruc had a good seasons as well. It seemed to be quite a well oiled machine.

He gets dropped into our defence which was leaking goals to begin with. Behind him was a keeper who wasn't very confident, in front of him Gerrard and Lucas or Gerrard and Allen were running into each other and Glen Johnson was....god only knows what he was up to. The only thing oiled was Enrique...

On top of that he had a manager in Rodgers who didn't spend enough time on defence because he had Suarez and Sturridge banging in the goals the previous season. Baptism of fire comes to mind.

Obviously he has made his mistakes (that attempted tackle against Newcastle that should have been a penalty looked like something i would do in 5 a side) and his decision making is erratic, he should be a lot better but the environment has to be accounted for.

Pyjamarama

murpho999 wrote: »

Don't see how people can defend Lovren.

Was supposed to be the missing link in our defence that would tighten it up and improve our title hopes this season.

He's been a disaster and a very disappointing signing.

Can't understand how he has declined unless the pressure has just got to him.

People using language as an excuse is very poor. Plenty of players have played with little English and done well. Suarez and Torres spring to mind.

If you have the ability then you'll thrive . Learning English won't improve your game.

In fairness it's different for a cb than a forward. A defense is all about being a unit and being vocal is a huge part of it, especially a guy being bought to be a leader. For Nando (lifelong swoon) and luis it was more about just being amazing on your own.

Jesus Wept

Is enricky alive?

DVDM93

The Rodgers wrote: »

Is enricky alive?

Playing FIFA.

punk_one82

DVDM93 wrote: »

Playing FIFA.

Whilst smothered in oil and wearing a face mask.

Dub13

As is now the norm I have turned off Irishkop for the day, today is not a day to be talking about contract negotiations, tactics etc. JFT96

Hollister11

"Justice for the 96"

the kelt

Lovren has overall being a terrible signing.

The issue for me was that he never actually done what he was signed to do. He was signed to be a Carra replacement. He was to be the organiser, the one pulling players into position and barking out orders. Great defenders can defend as well by what they say as what they do.

The issue with Lovren is not once did he show that attribute, I dont know whether the pressure of doing it a bigger Club got to him or he isnt a big enough character at a club like Liverpool and in that dressing room.

To be fair he had shown a bit of improvement in the recent Blackburn game where he was very good but bear in mind the opposition.

I think he will get another season, not all signings even those that know the lingo and the league come good straight away, to rule him out just because he had the advantage of knowing the league and the language is a bit short sighted.

Knex*

Dub13 wrote: »

As is now the norm I have turned off Irishkop for the day, today is not a day to be talking about contract negotiations, tactics etc. JFT96

Might be an idea to get the thread closed again for a day? Not only as a sign of respect, but the recent spats between posters and so on, last thing we need is this place turning into a pointscoring place again.

Oranage2

Knex. wrote: »

Might be an idea to get the thread closed again for a day? Not only as a sign of respect, but the recent spats between posters and so on, last thing we need is this place turning into a pointscoring place again.

Ridiculous idea!

gafferino

Tipsy McSwagger

Cantona's Collars

I know we have our differences but not today.

murpho999

Oranage2 wrote: »

Ridiculous idea!

Was good last year as it was 25 years but today would be too much in my opinion.

Maybe just close it while ceremony is on if posters insist on it.

Hillsborough was a massive tragedy but public grieving on the internet does bother me to be honest and posting about the club today is in no way disrespectful to the victims.

Mr.H

Knex. wrote: »

Might be an idea to get the thread closed again for a day? Not only as a sign of respect, but the recent spats between posters and so on, last thing we need is this place turning into a pointscoring place again.

It would be nice if everyone just refused to get into spats today and just kept it pg for the sake of the day thats in it. Friendly banter is grand but we can surely do without silly childishness for one day.

Its good to talk about and remember these tragedies. Be it Hillsborough, Hysel, Munich or the Ibrox disaster.

RIP 96

klose

Harry Palmr wrote: »

For some players it doesn't rain it pours

Teixeira caught his studs in the turf and left the field with a leg in a temporary cast tonight Looks like ligament damage.



Obviously the prognosis isn't known yet but it could mess up his pre-season.

https://twitter.com/officialbhafc/status/588287903417110528

RobertKK

Both clubs have had their tragedies. Today we remember the 96.

https://twitter.com/manutd/status/588257976965804032

Shanotheslayer

MerseysideUnited

T-K-O

Let the love'in commence

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32317833

Agent Coulson

T-K-O wrote: »

Let the love'in commence

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32317833

I'm a huge Klopp fan. But I really think he will take his year off to get ready for the German job after next years Euro's.

I think his intensity is suited for International management to be honest he won't burn out as soon at that level.

MD1990

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I'm a huge Klopp fan. But I really think he will take his year off to get ready for the German job after next years Euro's.

I think his intensity is suited for International management to be honest he won't burn out as soon at that level.

Already said he won't be taking a year off.

Agent Coulson

MD1990 wrote: »

Already said he won't be taking a year off.

Brendan better hope we don't lose on Sunday then or the speculation will go into over drive.

jcsoulinger

Speculators Gonna Speculate late late!

Polo_Mint

IF you all had the a vote, Would you replace Rogers with Klopp for the new season?