Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 Mod Note in OP 9/4

Caovyn Lineah

Anyone who thinks the Palace result had any bearing whatsoever on the title last season is an idiot, plain and simple.

I'm glad we only drew it because losing the title on goal difference would have been ****ing awful.

NukaCola

MD1990 wrote: »

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-make-contact-over-psvs-5556030

We in for Depay.
Can't see us signing him though.

"Rodgers wants a slight change in the recruitment policy which has placed a strong emphasis on young players with potential, by bringing more established stars better placed to go straight into the first team"

Step in the right direction, but its only the mirror though so baseless

tok9

Kirby wrote: »

It's true that West Ham had nothing to play for and QPR did. That has to factor into it of course.

I still think being 3-0 up and losing three goals in 12 minutes shows a shocking grasp of game management and is a black mark against Rodgers. That's amateur stuff to be honest.

It was a shocking result but it doesn't make me think any less of Rodgers. Same way with any other manager. I don't think worse of Wenger because Newcastle came back and won 4-3.

Caovyn Lineah

Kirby wrote: »

It's true that West Ham had nothing to play for and QPR did. That has to factor into it of course.

I still think being 3-0 up and losing three goals in 12 minutes shows a shocking grasp of game management and is a black mark against Rodgers. That's amateur stuff to be honest.

So you think Carlo Ancelloti is amateur?

NukaCola

Kirby wrote: »

It's true that West Ham had nothing to play for and QPR did. That has to factor into it of course.

I still think being 3-0 up and losing three goals in 12 minutes shows a shocking grasp of game management and is a black mark against Rodgers. That's amateur stuff to be honest.

Ya it was horrible, but it happens the best of managers.....there were far worse before and since.

Kirby

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

So you think Carlo Ancelloti is amateur?

I'm the one who brought Instanbul up as a reference or have you forgotten? And there is a difference in losing the lead over 45 minutes and losing it in 12.

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Anyone who thinks the Palace result had any bearing whatsoever on the title last season is an idiot, plain and simple.

I'm glad we only drew it

Anybody who wants their team to draw when they can win, is an idiot plain and simple.

Caovyn Lineah

Kirby wrote: »

I'm the one who brought Instanbul up as a reference or have you forgotten? And there is a difference in losing the lead over 45 minutes and losing it in 12.

His Milan team lost it in 6 minutes, not 45 and not 12.

NukaCola

Kirby wrote: »

I'm the one who brought Instanbul up as a reference or have you forgotten? And there is a difference in losing the lead over 45 minutes and losing it in 12.

Milan lost the lead in 6 mins from our first goal? 15 mins from HT.

DaveSuarez

I'm not sure what's been worse - Lovern to Liverpool or Lineah to this thread.

Caovyn Lineah

DaveSuarez wrote: »

I'm not sure what's been worse - Lovern to Liverpool or Lineah to this thread.

A wonderful input.

Kirby

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

A wonderful input.

Because calling people who disagree with you "idiots" is the height of intellect and debate. Perhaps contemplate your own input before criticising his? :rolleyes:

Caovyn Lineah

Kirby wrote: »

Because calling people who disagree with you "idiots" is the height of intellect and debate. Perhaps contemplate your own input before criticising his? :rolleyes:

I didn't specifically call anyone an idiot, don't misquote me.

If anyone thinks a draw against Palace cost us the title last year then they fall into that category in my eyes, deal with it.

And could you also explain how an Ancelloti team losing a lead in 6 minutes isn't as bad as the 12 minutes against Palace?

J Mysterio

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Chelsea have Mourinho, United have Van Gaal, Arsenal have Wenger, City have Pellegrini or a new world class coach to come in. We need Klopp to come in if we are to compete with those guys every season.

Go home, you're drunk.

redzerdrog

DaveSuarez wrote: »

I'm not sure what's been worse - Lovern to Liverpool or Lineah to this thread.

that is quite the comparison you have there and I am struggling to decide, just shows you how pathetic Lovren has been this year:mad:

klose

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

I find it hard to believe fsg will give rodgers a huge pot of money if they even have the quickest of looks at the list of players hes brought in, i mean the squad needs another overhaul. Assuming toure,jones & johnsons contracts arent renewed we have a "senior" squad of...

-mignolet
-enrique (90% gone one way or another but ill leave him in)
-sakho
-skrtel
-lovren (who could not have had a worser season if he tried)
-moreno
-flanno (whom i assume will renew his deal but its hard to know what way he wilo return from his lay off)
-lucas
-hendo
-allen
-can
-coutinho
-sterling
-ibe
-markovic
-lallana
-sturridge

-borini/lambert and balos futures all have massive question marks above their heads

The squad can be supplimented with the likes or origi/illori/teixiera/wisdom/manquillo (if hes still here)
So what do we have as of june the first, we wll have a keeper whos had some contrasting form in his time here.
Two left backs, one whos form tanked around february and another whos more interested in fifa and hanging out of his bird. Another left back who is traditionally a right back whos missed a season of his career with a poor injury record. So far we need a back up gk/upgrade on mig if we are really pushing the boat out and at minimum one starting quality right back.
In the centre of defence sakho can and skrtel played well as a 3 for a period of time but can is ideally a centre mid and im still not convinced of skrtel in a back 4. I would say we need atleast another central defender (preferably a partner for sakho)
Defensive mid, again another definite signing we need to make, lucas (like sturridge who i will come onto) cannot be relied upon fitness wise, i think signing a quality dm with lucas as back up and allen/hendo/can coutinho plying in front of said player would be a good idea.
Attacking mids, fine here tbh. Cou will continue to imorove you would imagine and i think lallana will improve also(needa a drastic upturn in numbers) other plays can fill in here too.
Wingers are fine also
Strikers sturridge cant be relied upon, quality signing one more needed, possiblly 2 depending on who else gets sold.

I count 4 definitely needed signings, 5 if you include centre backs, sad enough predicement to see us still needing another big influx in the summer. Would i trust rodgers/transfer committee to get the right players in? Certainly not.

Harry Palmr

NukaCola wrote: »

"Rodgers wants a slight change in the recruitment policy which has placed a strong emphasis on young players with potential, by bringing more established stars better placed to go straight into the first team"

Step in the right direction, but its only the mirror though so baseless

At least its by David Maddock, who has contacts at the club.

Caovyn Lineah

Harry Palmr wrote: »

At least its by David Maddock, who has contacts at the club.

Yeah but unfortunately if Rodgers signed Depay, Carvalho and Messi he would still be slated by some if they flopped.

Caovyn Lineah

Henderson contract news expected to be announced this week, over 100k a week. Great news.

Riesen_Meal

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Henderson contract news expected to be announced this week, over 100k a week. Great news.

Someone has to buy the second child's college placement, and I doubt it's the missus for some reason...

delw

K-9 wrote: »

Rodgers will get another season simply because he has earned it the last 3 Seasons.

Or because FSG won't pay top money to replace him

Harry Palmr

Whenever the senior side lets us down the best tonic is to watch the the kids playing some sublime attacking football, so here are 10 mins of Spurs u21 v LFC u21 which ended 1-3 to LFC, check out Samed Yesils turn on a sixpence striking and a couple of cracking moves that didn't quite result in a goal (the Spurs scorer is about 5 foot nothing)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMYPYk_jxec

Pepp1989

Would hope the club give Rodgers another year personally. I'm sick of the instability. Also the players are getting off lightly. Disgraceful by most yesterday. Rodgers didn't help by chopping and changing constantly but formation doesn't matter a f*ck with the attitude some of the players showed. And whoever says Rodgers has lost the dressing room.... Even if he has that's no excuse for the players to perform like they did. They are professionals paid a fortune and should put in a shift. A lot of them were walking around the pitch. This team badly needs someone who plays week in week out who will absolutely bollock a player out of it for switching off or not putting in a shift. It was sad watching them versus villa. Some of them should be ashamed having been out fought. That should never ever ever happen in a semi final. Depressing

rob316

Yesil is such a talent, if only he could stay clear of injuries.

Redmen Rafalution

J Mysterio wrote: »

Go home, you're drunk.

But he's right???

Mourinho, Van Gaal, Wenger and Pellegrini are all better coaches than B-Rog.

We could do with someone of that stature in charge.

Redmen Rafalution

MD1990 wrote: »

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-make-contact-over-psvs-5556030

We in for Depay.
Can't see us signing him though.

Can't see it either. He looks nailed on for Utd.

niallo27

Kirby wrote: »

He's not wrong. City won the league by a mere two points. Win the Palace game, and the City players are under pressure to perform. Sure they nearly blew it against QPR on the last day before and it took a last minute Aguero goal to save them. They don't handle pressure well. Drawing with Palace threw it away.

City had West Ham as their last game and they won comfortably because the pressure was off.

You really do not like Liverpool do you. Every post is a dig off some sort. Saying they dont handle pressure well or they are nearly bottlers means **** all because they got the job done.

niallo27

happyoutscan wrote: »

Meh I've had enough and would have no problem seeing BR exit. Nice guy but he's limited and we won't win the league under him. No chance in hell.

Liverpool wont win the league with anyone anytime soon, look at utd with their tactical genuis in charge and 200 million spent and a title winning team 2 seasons ago and they are a million miles away from winning the league.

Kirby

niallo27 wrote: »

You really do not like Liverpool do you. Every post is a dig off some sort. Saying they dont handle pressure well or they are nearly bottlers means **** all because they got the job done.

You see what you want to see.

niallo27

Kirby wrote: »

You see what you want to see.

Yes a lot of bitter bitter posts.

Kirby

niallo27 wrote: »

Yes a lot of bitter bitter posts.

niallo27 wrote: »

look at utd with their tactical genuis in charge and 200 million spent and a title winning team 2 seasons ago and they are a million miles away from winning the league.

Complains about bitter posts. Writes a bitter post himself.

You order your drinks with a twist? :P

Charlie19

So did everyone make it through meltdown Monday, no account closures.

It be interesting to see how the players react ťo such a disappointment, hopefully Lucas regains fitness as he was clearly missed.

Away to both west brom and hull in the next week, I can't wait:)

niallo27

Kirby wrote: »

Complains about bitter posts. Writes a bitter post himself.

You order your drinks with a twist? :P

My post is factual not bitter. It just seems every post lately seems to be a negative about Liverpool. Maybe I'm reading too much into it but you seem to have a chip on your shoulder about something.

Kirby

niallo27 wrote: »

Maybe I'm reading too much into it but you seem to have a chip on your shoulder about something.

Maybe with your bitter lemons and my shoulder chips everyone can be happy?

Jon Stark

DaveSuarez wrote: »

I'm not sure what's been worse - Lovern to Liverpool or Lineah to this thread.

I'll tell you what's worse, a United fan coming into this thread giving a lecture about how the team "bottled it" last season. It's been a while since I've had to defend the run in last season so I forget the stats, but of the last 15 games, how many did we win? 13?

Games that included very tight wins against the likes of City and last minute victories against the likes of Fulham, but all that nerve means nothing because the lads came up just short in one game (a night to forget yes).

If that makes them bottlers in some books then grand, but in my book I'm not going to take you too seriously. It's kind of like a knob head parent who ignores their child when they do well but are all over them with a bollicking when they make a mistake.

Kerrigooney

NukaCola wrote: »

"Rodgers wants a slight change in the recruitment policy which has placed a strong emphasis on young players with potential, by bringing more established stars better placed to go straight into the first team"

Step in the right direction, but its only the mirror though so baseless

Wasn't the same thing said last Summer? I think it was.

S. Goodspeed

Redmen Rafalution wrote: »

But he's right???

Mourinho, Van Gaal, Wenger and Pellegrini are all better coaches than B-Rog.

We could do with someone of that stature in charge.

If Van Gaal went to Spurs like he originally planned there's no way there would have been the collective w@nkfest in the media and amongst United fans over his "greatness". Wenger hasn't produced a top quality, consistent team in years and Mourinho has had a limitless budgets to play with at two of his most successful clubs (still never won a CL with either though). Pelligrini I like a lot but isn't suited to the task of trying to motivate the egos at City.

All of them have won more than BR but that's what happens when you intentionally hire a young, up and coming manager. There is zero guarantee that we would be in a better position with any of them in charge instead.

bad2dabone

niallo27 wrote: »

Liverpool wont win the league with anyone anytime soon, look at utd with their tactical genuis in charge and 200 million spent and a title winning team 2 seasons ago and they are a million miles away from winning the league.

Although united were pure garbage for most of the season they're not a million miles away. They can and will spend heavily again, they've got some very strong players and they get results while not playing the best. They'll be challenging next season I think.

weldoninhio

S. Goodspeed wrote: »

If Van Gaal went to Spurs like he originally planned there's no way there would have been the collective w@nkfest in the media and amongst United fans over his "greatness". Wenger hasn't produced a top quality, consistent team in years and Mourinho has had a limitless budgets to play with at two of his most successful clubs (still never won a CL with either though). Pelligrini I like a lot but isn't suited to the task of trying to motivate the egos at City.

All of them have won more than BR but that's what happens when you intentionally hire a young, up and coming manager. There is zero guarantee that we would be in a better position with any of them in charge instead.

When Mourinhio was a promising young manager, he was winning things.

When Wenger was a promising young manager, he was winning things.

Jesus Wept

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

A change of parameters? It will be 26 years, do you want me to draw you a picture to help you understand?

Draw the picture or gtfo m8.
Love pictures me.

smileyj1987

bad2dabone wrote: »

Although united were pure garbage for most of the season they're not a million miles away. They can and will spend heavily again, they've got some very strong players and they get results while not playing the best. They'll be challenging next season I think.

What happens if de gea leaves ?

weldoninhio

smileyj1987 wrote: »

What happens if de gea leaves ?

In fairness, they have Valdes as backup. He's no Brad Jones, but he's a very decent keeper.

smileyj1987

weldoninhio wrote: »

In fairness, they have Valdes as backup. He's no Brad Jones, but he's a very decent keeper.

Haha Valdes is woeful , he is one of the worst players to have won so much in his career.

kfallon

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Haha Valdes is woeful , he is one of the worst players to have won so much in his career.

Brad Jones is woeful, Valdes is not!

Jesus Wept

kfallon wrote: »

Brad Jones is woeful, Valdes is not!

Brad Jones is no Doni, but he is class.

Vicxas

kfallon wrote: »

Brad Jones is woeful, Valdes is not!

Well Scooby Doo can doodoo, but Jimmy Carter is smarter...

smileyj1987

kfallon wrote: »

Brad Jones is woeful, Valdes is not!

Look back at his time at barca during their period of winning everything most of the goals conceeded where his fault

Polo_Mint

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Look back at his time at barca during their period of winning everything most of the goals conceeded where his fault

Then why did Liverpool want to sign him?

smileyj1987

Polo_Mint wrote: »

Then why did Liverpool want to sign him?

So a few silly red tops say LFC where in for him and everyone believes it. Fact of the matter is he a lot better then jones but he is still a shocking keeper and I'm glad LFC didn't touch him.

niallo27

weldoninhio wrote: »

When Mourinhio was a promising young manager, he was winning things.

When Wenger was a promising young manager, he was winning things.

Wengers first few years were quiet poor. He then won a league in a poor French league comparable to what Rodgers did last year. He failed to challenge the next few years. He is quiet comparable to Rodgers in the early years.

Benzino

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

if Mourinho was in charge we would never had fcuked it away.

The funny thing is Chelsea should have won the league last year, but because Mourhino said they wouldn't, nobody talks about it. As already mentioned, Mourhino bottled it just as much as Rodgers, if not more. And he had a better squad available to him too.