Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015 Mod Note in OP 9/4

MD1990

Nainggolan is playing great for Roma in recent weeks. He would be an immense fo us or anyone. Probably out of reach for us now though.

MightyMandarin

MightyMandarin wrote: »

His record at Valencia was brilliant, but he never really succeeded in the league at Liverpool, Inter, Napoli.

Don't get me wrong, he's a top manager and when we played in Europe, I always believed we would win because his tactics were spectacular, but our league form was never outstanding aside from '08, and we drew too many games.

League form was good under Benitez. Broke 80 points twice and CL qualification was hit every season bar his last

Agent Coulson

Vicxas wrote: »

Ian ayre leaving!? Since when?

I read it or heard that recently that is why I said maybe. It maybe his role is changing but I think it was he is leaving.

Caovyn Lineah

rarnes1 wrote: »

League form was good under Benitez. Broke 80 points twice and the CL qualification was hit every season bar the last

There were plenty of days like today under Rafa too, don't forget that. Top 4 was the very minimum of what we should have been achieving back then with the players at his disposal and City not having a pot to piss in. Rafa had 6 seasons in charge, in 2 of them he failed to finish in the top 4. He probably should have done better all things considered.

Agent Coulson

Made me laugh anyway.

https://twitter.com/jesanchez3/status/591959877846769664

OwaynOTT

Villa did us a favour tonight by losing imo, could you imagine the Monday meltdown if City had lost and we only drew.

Terrible performance today from Rodgers, Sterling, Balotelli, Gerrard, Johnson and Henderson.
Borini is a better option up front than Mario, neither can score but at least Borini shows for the ball and makes runs and is in the box and doesn't shot from 30-40 yards out.

Roll on August.

Harry Palmr

The U18s beat Derby 2-3 away, two goals from Toni Gomes and one from Callum Nicholas

More Depay guff

Mohamed Seif
‎@MohSeif

#LFC have promised the player full playing time. #mufc have only inquired about Depay and said to 'inform' about developments. #mufc

followed by

Mohamed Seif
‎@MohSeif

This indicates that #United could possibly be going after a big name winger, hence putting Depay as a second option.

he quotes his source as being Marcel van der Kraan who writes for Der Telegraaf and is Talksports Dutch correspondent.

niallo27

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

There were plenty of days like today under Rafa too, don't forget that. Top 4 was the very minimum of what we should have been achieving back then with the players at his disposal and City not having a pot to piss in. Rafa had 6 seasons in charge, in 2 of them he failed to finish in the top 4. He probably should have done better all things considered.

He missed out on his first year but that year finished ok in the end.

Agent Coulson

Utd will go for Bale and Depay will be second choice.

The Bale transfer will drag on all summer so if we want Depay we need to get the deal done quickly as soon as the window opens no low balling sh1t pay the going rate which is around the £25m mark.

MightyMandarin

Probably bullsh*t but it's a nice thought that Dirk would try and help us get Memphis.

http://metro.co.uk/2015/04/25/liverpool-hero-dirk-kuyt-wants-memphis-depay-to-pick-liverpool-transfer-over-manchester-united-5166956/

MightyMandarin

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Utd will go for Bale and Depay will be second choice.

The Bale transfer will drag on all summer so if we want Depay we need to get the deal done quickly as soon as the window opens no low balling sh1t pay the going rate which is around the £25m mark.

Hopefully we won't offer bottom-rate wages either, or else PSG will swipe him.

Depay and Lacazette would be incredible signings.

A front 4 of Sterling (if he stays), Phil, Memphis and Lacazette/Sturridge would terrorise defences.

Caovyn Lineah

niallo27 wrote: »

He missed out on his first year but that year finished ok in the end.

We're talking about league performances, not European.

Caovyn Lineah

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Hopefully we won't offer bottom-rate wages either, or else PSG will swipe him.

Depay and Lacazette would be incredible signings.

A front 4 of Sterling (if he stays), Phil, Memphis and Lacazette/Sturridge would terrorise defences.

If Depay signs, it means Sterling is gone IMO.

monkey9

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

There were plenty of days like today under Rafa too, don't forget that. Top 4 was the very minimum of what we should have been achieving back then with the players at his disposal and City not having a pot to piss in. Rafa had 6 seasons in charge, in 2 of them he failed to finish in the top 4. He probably should have done better all things considered.

Those two seasons were his first, when we won the European Cup, and his last when there was just too much bullsh!t going on with cowboy owners of the time.

Rafa Benitez is simply one of best Liverpool managers of all time.

MightyMandarin

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

If Depay signs, it means Sterling is gone IMO.

Quite possible, although it's a nice thought to have them on either wing.

I'd rather Depay though, 21 league goals is remarkable for a young player.

Caovyn Lineah

monkey9 wrote: »

Those two seasons were his first, when we won the European Cup, and his last when there was just too much bullsh!t going on with cowboy owners of the time.

Rafa Benitez is simply one of best Liverpool managers of all time.

I'm merely pointing out that there were plenty of days like today and last Sunday when Rafa was in charge too.

niallo27

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

We're talking about league performances, not European.

Yes but it was also his first year. A lot of managers start off poor.

monkey9

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

I'm merely pointing out that there were plenty of days like today and last Sunday when Rafa was in charge too.

There were days like that alright. Jesus, I remember some awful performances. But they were always backed up with trophies and Champions League qualification and huge famous Euro nights.

shamrock55

We were rated no 1 in europe under rafa, i mean just think about that for a minute.

Caovyn Lineah

niallo27 wrote: »

Yes but it was also his first year. A lot of managers start off poor.

In his 3rd season, we finished 3rd with 68 points. That just shows how easy it was to achieve top 4 back then. Coupled with 2 poor cup runs in England, judging by today's standards he should have been fired despite the champions league final and being dominated by Milan.

Caovyn Lineah

monkey9 wrote: »

There were days like that alright. Jesus, I remember some awful performances. But they were always backed up with trophies and Champions League qualification and huge famous Euro nights.

Rafa won 2 trophies in 6 years.

Mr Alan

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

In his 3rd season, we finished 3rd with 68 points. That just shows how easy it was to achieve top 4 back then. Coupled with 2 poor cup runs in England, judging by today's standards he should have been fired despite the champions league final and being dominated by Milan.

Rafa had won a Champions League & FA Cup at that stage, correct?

Caovyn Lineah

Mr Alan wrote: »

Rafa had won a Champions League & FA Cup at that stage, correct?

Well done, a gold star for you, that's all he won in his entire Liverpool career. I do not care what he did in Europe and the FA Cup, we are discussing LEAGUE PERFORMANCES.

noodler

I can't believe this discussion is being had.

RasTa

Got to be the first time I've heard a Liverpool fan say they don't care that they won a Champions League

Kudos...

Mr Alan

RasTa wrote: »

Got to be the first time I've heard a Liverpool fan say they don't care that they won a Champions League

Kudos...

I can't believe he could be for real

Osmosis Jones

The Champions League is literally the pinnacle of club football, winning it is everything.

Hidalgo

And here we go with a replica of the debate post Villa game last Sunday.

I guess it will repeat itself after each loss/draw from now till the season's end.

Talisman

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Well done, a gold star for you, that's all he won in his entire Liverpool career. I do not care what he did in Europe and the FA Cup, we are discussing LEAGUE PERFORMANCES.

All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

Kerrigooney

A shark has been jumped.

Caovyn Lineah

RasTa wrote: »

Got to be the first time I've heard a Liverpool fan say they don't care that they won a Champions League

Kudos...

Winning it was amazing, incredible, probably the best night I have ever had as a Liverpool fan. That doesn't take away from how pathetic our league performances were that season.

At this moment in time, I want a league title,i don't care about the champions league right now. The premier league is our bread and butter, it's where our focus should be, anything else is a bonus.

monkey9

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Well done, a gold star for you, that's all he won in his entire Liverpool career. I do not care what he did in Europe and the FA Cup, we are discussing LEAGUE PERFORMANCES.

Wait what?? That's 'all' he won??

We qualified for Champions League all the time under him. Granted, it's harder now since the Arabs bought City, but he still did what was required of him.

As someone pointed out above, we broke all sorts of our own records on the league in terms of points, consecutive clean sheets etc.

Rafa's era is undoubtably my favourite as a Liverpool fan.

5starpool

Talisman wrote: »

All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

I was literally (and not in the Jamie Redknapp sense, but actually literally) going to post this same thing!

Harry Palmr

When internet warriors go to war a point is all you can score (this really is very silly).

Caovyn Lineah

monkey9 wrote: »

Wait what?? That's 'all' he won?? We qualified for Champions League all the time under him. Granted, it's harder now since the Arabs bought City, but he still did what was required of him.

As someone pointed out above, we broke all sorts of our own records on the league interns of points, consecutive clean sheets etc.

Rafa's era is undoubtably my favourite as a Liverpool fan.

It means he went 4 years without a trophy.

Hmmmm

5starpool

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Winning it was amazing, incredible, probably the best night I have ever had as a Liverpool fan. That doesn't take away from how pathetic our league performances were that season.

At this moment in time, I want a league title,i don't care about the champions league right now. The premier league is our bread and butter, it's where our focus should be, anything else is a bonus.

If all you care about is winning the premier league I suggest you either stop watching football or support another club. That also being the case, I'm not sure why you are so gung ho on Rodgers either given the evidence from 2 of 3 seasons so far.

Caovyn Lineah

5starpool wrote: »

If all you care about is winning the premier league I suggest you either stop watching football or support another club. That also being the case, I'm not sure why you are so gung ho on Rodgers either given the evidence from 2 of 3 seasons so far.

Support another club? After over 30 years as a Liverpool fan I'll take your point under consideration but politely decline.

Talisman

5starpool wrote: »

I was literally (and not in the Jamie Redknapp sense, but actually literally) going to post this same thing!

Great minds think a like ...

monkey9

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

It means he went 4 years without a trophy.

Shankly went about seven years without winning a trophy.

Caovyn Lineah

monkey9 wrote: »

Shankly went about seven years without winning a trophy.

If you're going to make stuff up then at least make it somewhat believable. Shanks took over in December 1959, we win the 2nd division in 1962.

monkey9

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

If you're going to make stuff up then at least make it somewhat believable. Shanks took over in December 1959, we win the 2nd division in 1962.

What did he win from 66 to 73?

Talisman

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

If you're going to make stuff up then at least make it somewhat believable. Shanks took over in December 1959, we win the 2nd division in 1962.

Stop ... just stop now ... PLEASE!

5starpool

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Support another club? After over 30 years as a Liverpool fan I'll take your point under consideration but politely decline.

Well in that case, why not want us to win other trophies? Belittling the successes of our most successful manager in the last quarter of a century (CL and European record puts him over Houllier imo) is a strange thing to be doing.

Supporting Rodgers does not mean you can't be appreciative of the record Rafa had while at the club. He has his flaws, and as you point out had some mixed seasons, but he still got over 80 points in 2 of his 6 seasons as well as several amazing European runs and 2 domestic finals.

Caovyn Lineah

monkey9 wrote: »

What did he win from 66 to 73?

I took you up wrong.

Caovyn Lineah

5starpool wrote: »

Well in that case, why not want us to win other trophies? Belittling the successes of our most successful manager in the last quarter of a century (CL and European record puts him over Houllier imo) is a strange thing to be doing.

Supporting Rodgers does not mean you can't be appreciative of the record Rafa had while at the club. He has his flaws, and as you point out had some mixed seasons, but he still got over 80 points in 2 of his 6 seasons as well as several amazing European runs and 2 domestic finals.

Of course I want us to win trophies but given the choice between a league title and a Champions League, give me the premier league every single time. That's all I am saying.

I cannot stand the fickle nature of new age fans, I would love to see how the people calling for his head and completely disrespecting the man felt last April after we beat City at Anfield.

MightyMandarin

Seeing that Rafa is looking to be free this summer, would you be happy to replace Rodgers with him?

Caovyn Lineah

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Seeing that Rafa is looking to be free this summer, would you be happy to replace Rodgers with him?

Absolutely not.

Hollister11

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Seeing that Rafa is looking to be free this summer, would you be happy to replace Rodgers with him?

No, I don't think he would discuss much better, he might of won us a cup this season, but not ah upgrade.

rob316

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Seeing that Rafa is looking to be free this summer, would you be happy to replace Rodgers with him?

No he had his time. We would probably win a couple of cups with him but he would struggle to get us into the top 4 IMO.