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Dublin West General Election - SEE MOD NOTE POST 19.

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    #1352
    The_Valeyard
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    Coppinger getting re-elected?? F*ck that.


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    #1353
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,298 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    Coppinger getting re-elected?? F*ck that.

    Yeah, not too happy about that. But if it means Donnelly isn't elected it's marginally the lesser of two evils as far as I'm concerned.


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    #1354
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Yeah, 1 or the other I can live with. I said the last election that she's harmless in the dail, but this time around if more from her grouping get elected then they may manage speaking rights at leaders question time without having to create a pact with other independents.


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    #1355
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,298 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    And she does like to speak!


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    #1356
    oblivious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Very likely that labour will not have speaking rights in the next Dail!!


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    #1357
    thomasj
    Registered Users Posts: 4,804 ✭✭✭thomasj


    Sounds a bit harsh but We weren't really spoilt for choice in this election were we?


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    #1358
    smallerthanyou
    Registered Users Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭smallerthanyou


    Very interesting. I thought Leo would have surplus and elected on first count. And donnelly would poll second. When's first full count due in?


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    #1359
    Typer Monkey
    Registered Users Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Typer Monkey


    Joe Higgins on RTE saying they are confident the transfers from early eliminations will go to Coppinger and that she'll take the third seat with Joan and Donnelly fighting it out for final seat. Can't see Noone, Clare or O'Gorman transferring strongly to Coppinger??


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    #1360
    rockatansky
    Registered Users Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭rockatansky


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Surprised to see Donnolly having to battle with the rest of them.

    Sinn Fein seem to have spent a lot of money in this constituency. If Donnelly doesn't manage to get in, and I don't think he will, there there will be some doubt around him as a candidate considering the higher level of Sinn Fein candidates being elected elsewhere around the country.


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    #1361
    ThisRegard
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    smallerthanyou wrote: »
    Very interesting. I thought Leo would have surplus and elected on first count. And donnelly would poll second. When's first full count due in?

    It was about to be given a few minutes ago but something happened, someone wanted to check something or something like that.

    It's due at any moment now.

    edit; discussing spoiled votes apparently.


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    #1362
    ThisRegard
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    Typer Monkey wrote: »
    Joe Higgins on RTE saying they are confident the transfers from early eliminations will go to Coppinger and that she'll take the third seat with Joan and Donnelly fighting it out for final seat. Can't see Noone, Clare or O'Gorman transferring strongly to Coppinger??

    Neither do I. But I think he might be basing his guess on tallies, rather than who the transfers are coming from. A journalist from TheJournal.ie tweeted earlier that the transfers are going all over the place.


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    #1363
    ongarite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,241 ✭✭✭ongarite


    I'd say a recount is on the cards here; sounds like all parties are arguing over spoiled votes already, even for the first count


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    #1364
    ThisRegard
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    I don't understand it, they're put aside anyway so I can't imagine them making any difference at this stage.


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    #1365
    Grudaire
    Registered Users Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭Grudaire


    There was a significant number marked with x's for candidates they didn't want to support. Technically not valid, but clear preference demonstrated IMO.

    Guessing they're arguing them


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    #1366
    ThisRegard
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    Grudaire wrote: »
    There was a significant number marked with x's for candidates they didn't want to support. Technically not valid, but clear preference demonstrated IMO.

    Guessing they're arguing them

    Guy on the Politics Café forum started a thread yesterday after doing the same.


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    #1367
    thomasj
    Registered Users Posts: 4,804 ✭✭✭thomasj


    enough to have an impact?


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    #1368
    hardCopy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    Grudaire wrote: »
    There was a significant number marked with x's for candidates they didn't want to support. Technically not valid, but clear preference demonstrated IMO.

    Guessing they're arguing them

    The voting procedure was drummed into me in national school. How do so many people get it so wrong every time?


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    #1369
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,298 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Guy on the Politics Café forum started a thread yesterday after doing the same.

    I saw that thread and thought he was clearly a bit special for doing that. It seems he may not be quite as special as I thought.


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    #1370
    Grudaire
    Registered Users Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭Grudaire


    thomasj wrote:
    Many enough to have an impact?

    Given how close this race is I would say yes. I saw at least 7 arguable ballots in the five boxes opened in front of me..


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    #1371
    Grudaire
    Registered Users Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭Grudaire


    hardCopy wrote:
    The voting procedure was drummed into me in national school. How do so many people get it so wrong every time?

    Several candidates sent mock ups of how to fill in a ballot..!

    It's definitely not taught well enough, there's clearly confusion in the electorate..

    Or perhaps a justifiable test to ensure you know enough to vote :D


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    #1372
    ongarite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,241 ✭✭✭ongarite


    Maybe they are arguing over votes like this.

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    #1373
    ongarite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,241 ✭✭✭ongarite


    1st count: Burton 6,445, Chambers 6,917, Coppinger 6,520, Donnelly 6,034, Varadkar 8,247, McGuinness 2,991. Quota 8,391


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    #1374
    recylingbin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Burton in a dog fight here to keep her seat


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    #1375
    ongarite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,241 ✭✭✭ongarite


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    #1376
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,298 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    recylingbin wrote: »
    Burton in a dog fight here to keep her seat

    She'll be more transfer friendly than Donnelly so I reckon she'll retain it.


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    #1377
    Godge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    McGuinness' political career looks over. If you can't make it as an independent this time out, you probably never will make. His last chance is for Donnelly to fall short and he does a Chris Andrews and joins SF.


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    #1378
    Kiwi_knock
    Registered Users Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    Can't see Donnelly bridging the gap to Burton. Won't be too transfer friendly


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    #1379
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,298 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Godge wrote: »
    McGuinness' political career looks over. If you can't make it as an independent this time out, you probably never will make. His last chance is for Donnelly to fall short and he does a Chris Andrews and joins SF.

    I think he certainly needed to be a lot closer to Burton/Coppinger/Donnelly to be considered a viable candidate for future elections. He'll continue to do well in local elections, but I don't think he'll ever make the breakthrough to national politics now.


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    #1380
    genericguy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    Godge wrote: »
    McGuinness' political career looks over. If you can't make it as an independent this time out, you probably never will make. His last chance is for Donnelly to fall short and he does a Chris Andrews and joins SF.

    This is a man that joined ff as batt o keeffe was fleecing teachers, and he a teacher himself. Told my father he didn't believe in FF but that "you do what you need to do", then fooked off in a huff slating FF when they chose a slicker bloke over him. He'd join the nazi party if he thought it would guarantee him a seat, salary and pension.


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    #1381
    rockatansky
    Registered Users Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭rockatansky


    genericguy wrote: »
    This is a man that joined ff as batt o keeffe was fleecing teachers, and he a teacher himself. Told my father he didn't believe in FF but that "you do what you need to do", then fooked off in a huff slating FF when they chose a slicker bloke over him. He'd join the nazi party if he thought it would guarantee him a seat, salary and pension.

    We get it you don't like the guy, but there's no need for comments like that.


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