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Dublin West General Election - SEE MOD NOTE POST 19.

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    #1502
    Grudaire
    Registered Users Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭Grudaire


    Larbre34 wrote:
    That letter is extraordinary. Why would ordinary folk want to involve themselves in local political groups if this is the nonsense that goes on - i refer to both the writing of the letter as well as the allegations within it.

    In fairness not all political groups are so.. corrupted by the promise of power.


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    #1503
    chucknorris
    Registered Users Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris


    Fine Gael received a hand delivered copy last week and deemed it 'Too hot to handle'. They knew about everything already.


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    #1504
    AlanG
    Registered Users Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭AlanG


    Gaspode wrote: »
    How did you know who voted??

    We have to check ID so know what age people are. Lots of people talk to you to say they are going in to work and often where, or they are wearing uniforms/ID etc. When I ask people are they familiar with the voting system the often said "No, I only voted at the marriage referendum."

    On the other hand there were lots of other people coming in who vote all the time (some of the poll clerks and presiding officers have been in the same venue for years) , a considerable number of these people needed assistance reading the paper due to challenges with literacy, but they still vote.

    Obviously we don't know who people voted for (except for the surprisingly large number of people who announce who they will vote for hen getting their ballot paper.


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    #1505
    Larsso30
    Registered Users Posts: 561 ✭✭✭Larsso30


    where is the letter viewable?


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    #1506
    oblivious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Larsso30 wrote: »
    where is the letter viewable?

    Twitter


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    #1507
    SidKelly
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭SidKelly


    Larsso30 wrote: »
    where is the letter?

    It was on Twitter. #dubw all very bizarre. Rumours someone will be brought in for questioning this week. Hard to imagine FF will want to publicise this, but appearently they are very angry.


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    #1508
    oblivious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    January wrote: »
    It's under an account named Patrick H. Deering.

    It's look like they have deleted or hidden the letter tweets


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    #1509
    chucknorris
    Registered Users Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris


    SidKelly wrote: »
    It was on Twitter. #dubw all very bizarre. Rumours someone will be brought in for questioning this week. Hard to imagine FF will want to publicise this, but appearently they are very angry.

    In fairness Sid, if there is any truth that election posters were sought from two different printers in 2014 to avoid detection of an over spend during the LEA, you'd hardly think FF would want to publicise it?

    All the NAMA stuff in that letter is bizarre and I've never heard of it so if peoples names are being dragged through the mud like that, then its wrong and they should have an opportunity to clear their names.

    The real problem for FF is that if one of the allegations is true, then all of the allegations must be dealt with.

    I'd be only too happy to help the Gardai with their inquiries and give my view of that letter and I would hope every member or previous member would do the same.


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    #1510
    SidKelly
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭SidKelly


    chucknorris wrote: »
    In fairness Sid, if there is any truth that election posters were sought from two different printers in 2014 to avoid detection of an over spend during the LEA, you'd hardly think FF would want to publicise it?

    All the NAMA stuff in that letter is bizarre and I've never heard of it so if peoples names are being dragged through the mud like that, then its wrong and they should have an opportunity to clear their names.

    The real problem for FF is that if one of the allegations is true, then all of the allegations must be dealt with.

    I'd be only too happy to help the Gardai with their inquiries and give my view of that letter and I would every member or previous member would do the same.

    I never said it had anything to do with you Chuck. I'm posting what I've heard in my workplace which is in Dublin 15. I was told someone will be brought in for questioning this week. That's all I was told.


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    #1511
    chucknorris
    Registered Users Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris


    SidKelly wrote: »
    I never said it had anything to do with you Chuck. I'm posting what I've heard in my workplace which is in Dublin 15. I was told someone will be brought in for questioning this week. That's all I was told.

    Well with all due respect, there has been insinuations on here that somehow I or anyone I'm associated with is behind it and I am only too happy to repeat that we're not and have no actual motivation to do that. We don't like the actions and things we seen in the last few years but we don't put together a letter like that. we took enough anonymous abuse from the Shinners over the years to then do it to someone else.

    I'm not behind that Twitter account either - based on my employment (IT), I wouldn't be so silly to do that.


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    #1512
    Keyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    Must find this letter... Must...


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    #1513
    chucknorris
    Registered Users Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris


    Keyzer wrote: »
    Must find this letter... Must...

    Where have you been?:pac:


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    #1514
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,298 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Everyone must be expecting another election very soon, not much evidence of posters coming down anywhere.


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    #1515
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Zaph wrote: »
    Everyone must be expecting another election very soon, not much evidence of posters coming down anywhere.

    It was weird around Mulhuddart this morning. Some were gone but others from the same party on neighbouring poles were still up.


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    #1516
    Gaspode
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    Lets hope anyone who got less than a thousand votes does the decent thing and pulls out of the race so the votes can go somewhere useful.


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    #1517
    Pepe LeFrits
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Is that not what PR is for? :pac:


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    #1518
    chucknorris
    Registered Users Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris


    jack presley wrote: »
    It was weird around Mulhuddart this morning. Some were gone but others from the same party on neighbouring poles were still up.

    Different crews taking them down. Each crew hasn't a clue who the other is:D


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    #1519
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    Jack chambers is gone from around my way anyway as is tj clare. Ruth david Joan and Paul still up.


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    #1520
    JoyPad
    Registered Users Posts: 1,703 ✭✭✭JoyPad


    January wrote: »
    Jack chambers is gone from around my way anyway as is tj clare. Ruth david Joan and Paul still up.

    New Jack Chambers posters would have to be printed anyway, they will have to say "Jack Chambers TD".

    Ruth, David, Joan and Paul posters could very well remain the same :D


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    #1521
    athtrasna
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    JoyPad wrote: »
    New Jack Chambers posters would have to be printed anyway, they will have to say "Jack Chambers TD".

    You can't be a member of a dissolved parliament so anyone who puts TD on their posters is wrong ;)


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    #1522
    JoyPad
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    athtrasna wrote: »
    You can't be a member of a dissolved parliament so anyone who puts TD on their posters is wrong ;)

    If you're ballsy enough to put Bachelor's Degree in Medicine in your LinkedIn profile, what's a couple of letters on a political poster?


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    #1523
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    chucknorris wrote: »
    Different crews taking them down. Each crew hasn't a clue who the other is:D

    A lot of posters gone this evening but a good chunk of the cable ties left on the poles unfortunately so another half arsed job carried out by our local politicians!

    And strangely, one of the giant sized Copping posters that had come off its mooring over the weekend has been re-attached.


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    #1524
    Rosser
    Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Rosser


    I promised myself I'd not bite where 'the letter' is concerned but on reflection if some of the allegations made are correct they would have implications for the party in question never mind the candidate.

    It would churn up many of the issues that the last 5 years seem to have wiped away, possibly prevent the formation of a government given how toxic the party might be and have a significant impact on the results of a subsequent election.

    Either it's a complete groundless allegation and if that's the case those behind it should be punished OR the media are afraid of litigation and there are some 'Woodard & Bernsteins' working away to blow the lid off it.


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    #1525
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    JoyPad wrote: »
    If you're ballsy enough to put Bachelor's Degree in Medicine in your LinkedIn profile, what's a couple of letters on a political poster?

    Is that for real? What 25 yr old has a degree in medicine as well as law and opolitics.


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    #1526
    hardCopy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Is that for real? What 25 yr old has a degree in medicine as well as law and opolitics.

    Not that one anyway.

    Sure Bertie let on he was an accountant for years.


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    #1527
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,298 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Is that for real? What 25 yr old has a degree in medicine as well as law and opolitics.

    He dropped out of medicine during or after second year.


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    #1528
    Rosser
    Registered Users Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Rosser


    Zaph wrote: »
    He dropped out of medicine during or after second year.

    So he doesn't have a medical degree? What about the law one?


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    #1529
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Zaph wrote: »
    He dropped out of medicine during or after second year.

    So he is a liar, great start to his career as a TD


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    #1530
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    eviltwin wrote: »
    So he is a liar, great start to his career as a TD

    Ha what's new about that he has no qualms about lying.


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    #1531
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,298 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Rosser wrote: »
    So he doesn't have a medical degree? What about the law one?

    That's real.
    eviltwin wrote: »
    So he is a liar, great start to his career as a TD

    I think it's called being economical with the truth.


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