Trocaire Boxes

thehouses

lazygal wrote: »

Condoms are about more than the Aids problem. They help to reduce the chances of young girls becoming pregnant and dropping out of education. They help women to exercise more control over their reproductive choices. The birth rate in Ireland dropped after contraception became more freely available. My parents and in laws both came from very large families, their own families were far smaller because they were able to control their fertility.

I agree, there are certain benefits which condoms can bring. However, it must also be recognised that there are certain drawbacks and people don't always realise or accept this.

lazygal

thehouses wrote: »

I agree, there are certain benefits which condoms can bring. However, it must also be recognised that there are certain drawbacks and people don't always realise or accept this.

What are the drawbacks?

gazzamc

lazygal wrote: »

What are the drawbacks?

More food for Africans :P

crazygeryy

Money for the black babies as me granny used to say.

Ghost Buster

lazygal wrote: »

What are the drawbacks?

We could cut straight to the chase, . Whether there are actual draw backs or not The RCCs issue with condoms is that their use is "sinful".

AlteredStates

Trocaire boxes taught me from an early age to give to charity... I still do.

Probably one of the best ideas they teach in school.

NomadicGray

thehouses wrote: »

I agree, there are certain benefits which condoms can bring. However, it must also be recognised that there are certain drawbacks and people don't always realise or accept this.

Drawbacks?

lazygal

AlteredStates wrote: »

Trocaire boxes taught me from an early age to give to charity... I still do.

Probably one of the best ideas they teach in school.

Trocaire boxes taught me that charity is an industry like any other and capturing vast numbers of school children and indoctrinating them in the idea of giving money to religious organisations to peddle their wares in poor countries was a very inefficient use of resources. If and when my children are in a school that distributes them I'll be asking questions.

AlteredStates

Differences of opinion but worth it for me to learn the morale alone regardless of % given to genuine need.

lazygal

lazygal wrote: »

Trocaire boxes taught me that charity is an industry like any other and capturing vast numbers of school children and indoctrinating them in the idea of giving money to religious organisations to peddle their wares in poor countries was a very inefficient use of resources. If and when my children are in a school that distributes them I'll be asking questions.

Peddle their wares? Please.

They are out there helping the poor people of the world. Have you ever seen the good work done by the missions or heard the stories from priests back from the missions? They do a massive amount of good for the poor.

There is a disgusting attitude driven by blind hatred of Catholicism being displayed in this thread (and many other threads by idiotic posters).

Id love to have the likes of you coming into me if I were working in a school complaining about topics such as this, the satisfaction I'd get telling you to clear off would be high.

cruais

Penny for the black babies

AlteredStates

cruais wrote: »

Penny for the black babies


And if you dont eat up youll end up like them...

lazygal

Maddison Angry Bacteria wrote: »

Peddle their wares? Please.

They are out there helping the poor people of the world. Have you ever seen the good work done by the missions or heard the stories from priests back from the missions? They do a massive amount of good for the poor.

There is a disgusting attitude driven by blind hatred of Catholicism being displayed in this thread (and many other threads by idiotic posters).

Id love to have the likes of you coming into me if I were working in a school complaining about topics such as this, the satisfaction I'd get telling you to clear off would be high.

The indoctrination worked well on you I see. I bet you think Mother Teresa was a great woman altogether.

lazygal

lazygal wrote: »

The indoctrination worked well on you I see. I bet you think Mother Teresa was a great woman altogether.

What are you on about? Mother Teresa? One the greatest people ever for the work she did with the poor and a future Saint? Are you really trying to claim something against her?

A new low for AH without doubt, the bull sh*t some people will come out with to push their incorrect views is laughable.

thehouses

Ghost Buster wrote: »

We could cut straight to the chase, . Whether there are actual draw backs or not The RCCs issue with condoms is that their use is "sinful".

That is to reduce their argument too much. There is much more to their rationale beyond it being sinful.

thehouses

Maddison Angry Bacteria wrote: »

What are you on about? Mother Teresa? One the greatest people ever for the work she did with the poor and a future Saint? Are you really trying to claim something against her?

A new low for AH without doubt, the bull sh*t some people will come out with to push their incorrect views is laughable.

Have a look at some things Christopher Hitchens said about her...from what I remember he criticised the fact that she spread her religion (which is the same as spreading atheism as it happens) and he also said she didn't use proper medical techniques and did more harm than good.

lazygal

Maddison Angry Bacteria wrote: »

What are you on about? Mother Teresa? One the greatest people ever for the work she did with the poor and a future Saint? Are you really trying to claim something against her?

A new low for AH without doubt, the bull sh*t some people will come out with to push their incorrect views is laughable.

She was an absolute fraud and her fetishism about others suffering was pure evil.

cruais

Maddison Angry Bacteria wrote: »

What are you on about? Mother Teresa? One the greatest people ever for the work she did with the poor and a future Saint? Are you really trying to claim something against her?

A new low for AH without doubt, the bull sh*t some people will come out with to push their incorrect views is laughable.

I just googled 'mother teresa fraud' and it suprised me to say the least. Google it

NomadicGray

Maddison Angry Bacteria wrote: »

What are you on about? Mother Teresa? One the greatest people ever for the work she did with the poor and a future Saint? Are you really trying to claim something against her?

A new low for AH without doubt, the bull sh*t some people will come out with to push their incorrect views is laughable.

I actually forgot about this, but I presume they're referring to the stories that came out a few years back. Basically it suggested that she was very much into suffering and the suffering of those she treated, maybe she had some view it brought people closer to jesus/god. Not something I'd be overly interested in but dont fully discount that posters comments without looking into it yourself.

Yeah I'll believe some load of nonsense from a person pushing their atheist agenda against all the obvious good that we saw being done over the decades :rolleyes:

I wouldn't even waste my time reading it.

cruais

Maddison Angry Bacteria wrote: »

Yeah I'll beleive some load of nonsense from a person pushing their atheist agenda against all the obvious good that we saw being done over the decades :rolleyes:

Its not just one person. There are countless amounts of articles. Like i said. It suprised me. Just google it ...honestly

NomadicGray

Maddison Angry Bacteria wrote: »

I wouldn't even waste my time reading it.

Thats fair enough, maybe go have an auld pray or something

hynesie08

this is the mother teresa who refused to disclose her finances amid reports money donated for medical equipment was being sent to the vatican and would forcibly baptise dying people?

Ghost Buster

Maddison Angry Bacteria wrote: »

Yeah I'll believe some load of nonsense from a person pushing their atheist agenda against all the obvious good that we saw being done over the decades :rolleyes:

I wouldn't even waste my time reading it.

Where did you see this good she did?

lulu1

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

The things some people choose to get worked up about!

No-one has ever, to my knowledge, been in way forced to put anything into a Trocaire box....in fact you don't even have to take one if you don't want to.

That some people think it's good enough to get a box just to fill it with contraceptives and other rubbish is worrying....it would make me question their maturity tbh.

I would think they are joking op It would probably take them years to fill it with condoms anyway not weeks

hynesie08

lulu1 wrote: »

I would think they are joking op It would probably take them years to fill it with condoms anyway not weeks

Not if you fill them with water.

lulu1

hynesie08 wrote: »

Not if you fill them with water.

Are you talking water balloons well why didnt you say that.

hynesie08

lulu1 wrote: »

Are you talking water balloons well why didnt you say that.

Exactly, Never mind disease and famine, It's impossible to be sad when you're having a water balloon fight.

CJ Haughey

lulu1 wrote: »

I would think they are joking op It would probably take them years to fill it with condoms anyway not weeks

Female contraception should also be welcomed.

lulu1

hynesie08 wrote: »

Exactly, Never mind disease and famine, It's impossible to be sad when you're having a water balloon fight.

Now now did your mother never tell you never to waste water because there is thousands dying for the want of a drink.

jimgoose

Maddison Angry Bacteria wrote: »

Peddle their wares? Please.

They are out there helping the poor people of the world. Have you ever seen the good work done by the missions or heard the stories from priests back from the missions? They do a massive amount of good for the poor.

There is a disgusting attitude driven by blind hatred of Catholicism being displayed in this thread (and many other threads by idiotic posters).

Id love to have the likes of you coming into me if I were working in a school complaining about topics such as this, the satisfaction I'd get telling you to clear off would be high.

If I encountered a psychotic, indoctrinated cult member working in a school I'd pull my children out of it before they got hurt. It's always the same oul' caper on infinite loop.

hynesie08

lulu1 wrote: »

Now now did your mother never tell you never to waste water because there is thousands dying for the want of a drink.

That's where the condoms come in, all the fun without the explosions.

(Yes i'm still talking about water)

jungleman

Maddison Angry Bacteria wrote: »

Peddle their wares? Please.

They are out there helping the poor people of the world. Have you ever seen the good work done by the missions or heard the stories from priests back from the missions? They do a massive amount of good for the poor.

There is a disgusting attitude driven by blind hatred of Catholicism being displayed in this thread (and many other threads by idiotic posters).

Id love to have the likes of you coming into me if I were working in a school complaining about topics such as this, the satisfaction I'd get telling you to clear off would be high.

The missions were only put in place to spread the word of Catholicism and make money. It was never about doing good or making a difference. It was a form of exploitation similar to colonialism. If the church really wanted to help out there, they could. They are the richest organisation in the world. The sheer hypocrisy of the CC is unbelievable. That pope benedict was sitting on a gold plated bloody throne while African children were starving.

My aunt is a nun out in Zambia. She lives in a gated community, patrolled by white security men. She has a constant supply of fresh water. She has electricity and access to internet. All while living in her little Vatican funded bubble, gated to keep the uncivilized black people out. So the "disgusting attitude" you refer to is just people who know what the missions and good catholic folk in Africa are really like.

smileyj1987

I once filled one with biscuits and used the money to buy a yo-yo.

fleet_admiral

My future bus fare or spare change I need for smokes

ZeroThreat

TheChizler wrote: »

Condoms?

Best to start early eh?

Steppenwolfe

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

I remember these when I was in primary school in the '70's, can't be making a huge difference if they're still looking for money to solve the same problems in the same countries decades on.

I was just thinking the same myself. Showing my age here, but my primary school days were the early 60's. Back then we were always being reminded to bring a penney to school for the black babies. I'm sure they call them something else now, but little else seems to have changed.

foggy_lad

I fill a trocaire box every year and hand it all into the local St Vincent de Paul. They are the only organisation who I will give to that has any link to religion/churchs.

Charity begins at Home!

worded

Bishop Casey and Trocaire

Give a little, it would help me mot

Anyone remember that one?

madmaggie

Every year in school, same story, "me Mammy put the box in the fire". They stopped bothering me. She said "we are the fecking poor".

diddley

foggy_lad wrote: »

I fill a trocaire box every year and hand it all into the local St Vincent de Paul. They are the only organisation who I will give to that has any link to religion/churchs.

Charity begins at Home!

Shame about their CEO's salary though!

worded

diddley wrote: »

Shame about their CEO's salary though!

Did I read correct there earlier, how much is the person getting? Laughable

thehouses

foggy_lad wrote: »

I fill a trocaire box every year and hand it all into the local St Vincent de Paul. They are the only organisation who I will give to that has any link to religion/churchs.

Charity begins at Home!

+1 on the CEO salary.

Also I hope you don't mean that charity has to end at home.

Baby Jane

thehouses wrote: »

+1 on the CEO salary.

Also I hope you don't mean that charity has to end at home.

Yeh I agree with supporting your local and national charities, but charity actually begins where it's most urgently needed, in my opinion.

CJ Haughey

worded wrote: »

Did I read correct there earlier, how much is the person getting? Laughable

6 figures anyway, another joke.

diddley

worded wrote: »

Did I read correct there earlier, how much is the person getting? Laughable

I think the most recent figure from 2012 is between €115k and €125k, they wouldn't narrow it down any further......

thehouses

diddley wrote: »

I think the most recent figure from 2012 is between €115k and €125k, they wouldn't narrow it down any further......

It's nice to see that the CEO in charge of helping people who fall on hard times earns so much. Can probably relate to them better that way.

diddley

thehouses wrote: »

It's nice to see that the CEO in charge of helping people who fall on hard times earns so much. Can probably relate to them better that way.

Makes me almost regret not being religious... Judgement day and all that...

foggy_lad

diddley wrote: »

Shame about their CEO's salary though!

whatever is collected locally stays locally and each local group sends a small amount to HQ to cover national administration salaries etc


Of all "aid" to foreign countries only about 1-2% comes from charities, most is world bank loans etc

also for every euro paid to these multinational business that masquerade as charitable institutions only about 10% actually goes on the people it is collected for, about 10cent of every euro actually reaches Africa/Asia/South America and gets spent on the poor. The rest goes on the company and paying for staff and administration.

CJ Haughey

foggy_lad wrote: »

whatever is collected locally stays locally and each local group sends a small amount to HQ to cover national administration salaries etc

Sending hundreds of thousands of euros to cover HQ is more than a small amount tbf.